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02/25/12 05:23 PM
- Read treemail, made a comment about the challenge.
- One confessional about the reward challenge.
- Talked during the IC.
- Another edit that stands out in the underdeveloped male tribe.
Since he had some facetime talking with the girls when they returned
from TC, his confessional about the reward looks like it was placed
there to make him more visible, also we have a scene of him
interacting with Jonas (sideshow
Bill was present but either didn't talk or what he said was edited
one of only two scenes of interaction within the male tribe in this
- A few insults, some lazy behaviour, partner in crime of the villain
of the episode.
- Tried to smooth things with Alicia, but in the recap we only see
her outburst, slight P and slight N so i decided not to give any
tone, i was surprised at her VF because i barely noticed her in the
episode, but it was probably boosted up by her talking in the IC.
- Not the leader, but clearly second-in-command, even though i rated
them the same, i thought she was more complex than Chelsea, she was
the only person besides Sabrina who understood the danger of having
Colton around all the time, she explained why they should keep Kat
even though she is an useless idiot.
- Scrambling to save your ass is OTT, but OTTM would make it look
like she was all over the place which was not the case, there's clear
P manipulation, mentions of her job, life experience and skills,
Chelsea and Kim admit she probably deserves to stay more than Kat
does, we know she' is absolutely right about Kat being deadweight,
but on the other hand she is going about it the wrong way, it was a
mistake to target Kat, Monica chose to vote against Christina who is
also on the outs and has a public feud with Alicia, while Nina
stubbornly still targeted Kat, was she a one note oversimplified
caricature? I don't think she was, we got to know her as a person and
we knew the reasons why she was targetting Kat, but she couldn't see
past the obvious so it was not an high complexity edit
- Looked like a narator most of the time, but she is narrating events
that aren't finished yet and that she has the power to change, so
it's not so much narration as thinking out loud and letting us knows
what is going through her head.
the danger of having Colton around all the time, and recognizes him
as a possible threat because he has connections in both tribes.
unclear to me weather the exchange between her and Monica in the IC
was about how good Monica did or about her leadership skills, or even
again almost ignored, which makes curious about the ones who get the
most attention in the Manono tribe, Jonas, Michael and Troy in that
order are the best edits, granted everything they say is fluff, but
they could distribute the fluff evenly and if they aren't doing it
there has to be a good reason.
we have Colton a very high visibility character, the next episode
should be interesting because if he gets less airtime now that he has
found his space in his own tribe, then we will know that the
endgamers will come from Salani.
is looking very bad, keeping Kat looked like an awful decision, but
will they pay for it or will their luck change?
Chelsea and Kim were talking on the beach, Chelsea say something
like, how about voting out Kat and replacing her with...and the scene
was cut, this has to be foreshadowing for Monica getting a spot in
the alliance, the question is will she replace Kat of with she be
added as a sixth?
Top Contender (5
Looking Good (4 points):
Has Potential (3 points):
Edit has some flaws, but
not eliminated yet. (2 points): Christina,
Barely Hanging on (1
Eliminated (0 points):
Bill, Colton, Kat, Matt, Tarzan
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Kim - Not the leader, but clearly second-in-command, even though i rated them the same, i thought she was more complex than Chelsea, she was the only person besides Sabrina who understood the danger of having Colton around all the time, she explained why they should keep Kat even though she is an useless idiot.
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Lexxan wrote:Spoiler readers CAN be prejudices and hence I can't count their votes untill what they read was debunkedOh well, I might just as well post the list Phoenix PM'ed me: Spoiler [+]Alex ShallowAlsatBattleBuddhaburningsceptreCFCChengcindidindiCirieSurvivorCisacoachSFcyclehausenDream Machineet91evansFistOfLegendGabonergeorgiakHagridjedijun jonnyfairplayjuicyfruitJT4everkarl100589KirblarKriokolonelegendlinesinaconversationMarianoManmerelyModestyBnadreOowataniteOwenJDavePoloniumPrettyInPinkPuppet MasterPyreRedSoxRilassRunnindownScrudamseveCSFCShowStealerShredSportsmanStephenwashereSurvivorgirl22SurvNinjaTallBilltangoUlongwinsYemaGrl1988ZombieLinda You are hereby disclosed from posting winner spec in this thread, etc, etc.
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RockLobsta wrote:Alicia --> OTTN3: She basically wasn't in the second half but the opening segment was super negative and I was prepared to give her MORN but when I looked at it the music was OTT and saying stuff like "I wouldn't save her if she was drowning" is obviously OTT. I think the show's intent was to remind viewers that she's nuts.Bill --> UTR1: Completely tangential to the plot so far, and the confessionals during the challenge were totally unimportant.Chelsea --> MOR3: I see people comparing her confessional to Sophie's strong woman confessional, which I gave CP for but they're clearly different. They both acknowledge strength, but Chelsea goes on to talk about what the tribe will do whereas Sophie talked about how that affected her and why she was concerned about it. Chelsea's edit wasn't that great this episode.Christina --> MORN2: I could see giving her UTRN but definitely not toneless. Between Alicia having a rambling confessional about what a useless tard she is, not getting a chance to defend herself, and Kat throwing her under the bus (), her edit was negative.Colton --> OTTM5: It seems weird that he's drawing comparisons to Cochran because Cochran was way more complex than Colton is. Just because he's talking strategy doesn't mean he's a complex player - especially not when he's talking about getting out of the misfit alliance and talking about how it's Colton's island 10 minutes after sobbing because he was bullied by all the players.Greg --> UTR1: I'm offended by the notion of OTT1, so. Greg was not subtitled or shown in any way really beyond "Tarzan's naked"Jay --> UTR1: A throw-away confessional during the middle of the challenge. This should have dropped his chances in everyone's books.Jonas --> MOR2: Interesting positioning for himself, but I don't think he's really had that much actual content that related to the storyline. Sushi chef hasn't come into anything at all, and that's really the only thing we know about Jonas on a personal level via any sort of insight. I think people will start to draw comparisons to Sophie which will be wrong because he shows no real awareness of why people are doing what they're doing and how it affects them.Katrina --> OTTM5: She was soo viciously negative but then was redeemed somewhat at Tribal Council. The pile-on was not edited in a flattering light. We also heard Sabrina praising her "good energy". I think she's a long term player and I'm definitely not eliminating her fully, but I think she's not got a great chance to win.Kim --> MOR2: People are acting like Chelsea had a way better edit but Kim got some insight at Tribal Council and also had an important scene with Colton. Staying present in the tribe dynamic but not being too attached to anything or central to the plot is important pre-merge for low-vis female winners, and that's what she has been so far.Leif --> UTR1: Chad Crittenden returns <3Matt --> UTR1: He can be eliminated based on this ep.Michael --> MOR3: Michael's edit is really boring and not that important to the plot. He's playing the role of a narrator but there is some content to it. I'm watching him, but kind of like Kat: he seems to be important in the long-run.Monica --> CPP3: She had two confessionals showing lots of awareness about her position, explaining her actions (or lack thereof), and got focus she didn't need to. There are three members of the minority alliance, and Christina's edit went largely untended. I think for Monica, if she's not being set up as a martyr for the women being disasters, this was a good edit for her long-term prospects.Sabrina --> CP5: I'm a little annoyed both by the MORs and the fact that people are eliminating her. Have we learned nothing from Rob winning Redemption Island? High impact, high-visibility players can win. Sabrina is the leader of a tribe that's been disastrous, and yet is still being edited in a sympathetic light. I think they're trying to protect her from the negativity of Salani so there can be redemption for the women later. Sabrina's articulate and playing a central role in the plot, and I think this could explain her visibility. Second highest contender for me.Troyzan --> UTR2: Unimportant, throwaway stuff. I don't think his edit is terrible for a man, but I'm pretty convinced a woman wins considering the neglect of the men's tribe this episode and the negativity last episode.WINNER CONTENDER PICKS5 - Kim, Sabrina4 - Chelsea, Monica3 - Jonas, Troyzan2 - Christina, Jay, Katrina, Michael1 - Bill,0 - Alicia, Colton, Greg, Leif, Matt
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lagrossadrinkard11 wrote:I don't mind the blacklisting based on so-called "prejudices". I don't think edgic should be a democracy. Ratings should be decided by a council made up of Phoenix, Oowatanite, fat little fingers, Warrior, Red Coffee, Hippochinfat, and mattd.
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