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merkyl 
Who the fuck uses A4 size paper? 
Lead  
I'm pretty sure I do not care for these people.




zippityboomboom  
Europeans.


CBRetriever  
the french


FiveMorePeople  


Jitensha  
stupid europeans. What a terrible paper size.


DelosWorld  
Is it based on metric measurements or a fraction of the VerneMike?


Flatulence Symphony  
ISO 216 specifies international standard (ISO) paper sizes used in most countries in the world today. It defines the "A" and "B" series of paper sizes, including A4, the most commonly available size.^{[1]} Two supplementary standards, ISO 217 and ISO 269, define related paper sizes; the ISO 269 "C" series is commonly listed alongside the A and B sizes. All ISO 216, ISO 217 and ISO 269 paper sizes have the same aspect ratio, . This ratio has the unique property that when cut or folded in half lengthwise, the halves also have the same aspect ratio. Each ISO paper size is one half of the area of the next size up. The advantages of basing a paper size upon an aspect ratio of √2 were already noted in 1786 by the German scientist Georg Christoph Lichtenberg, in a letter to Johann Beckmann.^{[2]} The formats that became A2, A3, B3, B4 and B5 were developed in France, and published in 1798 during the French Revolution,^{[3]} but were subsequently forgotten. Early in the twentieth century, Dr Walter Porstmann turned Lichtenberg's idea into a proper system of different paper sizes. Porstmann's system was introduced as a DIN standard (DIN 476) in Germany in 1922, replacing a vast variety of other paper formats. Even today the paper sizes are called "DIN Ax" in everyday use in Germany and Austria. The main advantage of this system is its scaling: if a sheet with an aspect ratio of √2 is divided into two equal halves parallel to its shortest sides, then the halves will again have an aspect ratio of √2. Folded brochures of any size can be made by using sheets of the next larger size, e.g. A4 sheets are folded to make A5 brochures. The system allows scaling without compromising the aspect ratio from one size to another – as provided by office photocopiers, e.g. enlarging A4 to A3 or reducing A3 to A4. Similarly, two sheets of A4 can be scaled down and fit exactly 1 sheet without any cutoff or margins. The weight of each sheet is also easy to calculate given the basis weight in grams per square metre (g/m² or "gsm"). Since an A0 sheet has an area of 1 m², its weight in grams is the same as its basis weight in g/m². A standard A4 sheet made from 80 g/m² paper weighs 5g, as it is one 16th (four halvings) of an A0 page. Thus the weight, and the associated postage rate, can be easily calculated by counting the number of sheets used. ISO 216 and its related standards were first published between 1975 and 1995:
Paper in the A series format has a aspect ratio, although this is rounded to the nearest millimetre. A0 is defined so that it has an area of 1 square metre, prior to the above mentioned rounding. Successive paper sizes in the series (A1, A2, A3, etc.) are defined by halving the preceding paper size, cutting parallel to its shorter side (so that the long side of A(n+1) is the same length as the short side of An, again prior to rounding). The most frequently used of this series is the size A4 which is 210 × 297 mm (8.3 × 11.7 in). For comparison, the letter paper size commonly used in North America (8.5" x 11") is approximately 6 mm (0.24 in) wider and 18 mm (0.71 in) shorter than A4. The geometric rationale behind the square root of 2 is to maintain the aspect ratio of each subsequent rectangle after cutting the sheet in half, perpendicular to the larger side. Given a rectangle with a longer side, x, and a shorter side, y, the following equation shows how the aspect ratio of a rectangle compares to that of a half rectangle: which reduces to or an aspect ratio of . The formula that gives the larger border of the paper size An in metres and without rounding off is the geometric sequence: a_{n} = 2^{1 / 4 − n / 2}. The paper size An thus has the dimension a_{n} × a_{n + 1}. The exact millimetre measurement of the long side of An is given by . 

Zzunk  
It could be worse ...


CBRetriever  
let's see if the french standardized the A4 in 1798, were the americans using 8.5X11 before that?
the US was supposed to go metric back when I was in college and that was a long, long time ago  wtf happened? 

StatelyWayneManor  
can we still use this?


merkyl  
Next question, why (the fuck) does Stieg Larsson need to mention this paper size every time Mikael Blomkvist handles a piece of paper?




Penelope McBagpipe  
Do not get me started on manual feeders who do not show up to feed.
DO NOT 

trainwreck  
Nobody uses A4 except my lawyer


DelosWorld  
I fucking hate ISO.


FiveMorePeople  
Penelope McBagpipe wrote: wut 

merkyl  
Penelope McBagpipe wrote:What about Manuel feeders? 

VincentAccordionGuy  
Of course the Europeans had to make a big fucking deal about the size of paper with all that math crap. Woo, I can make brochures outta my fucking A4 paper because it has some fucking aspect ratio. No wonder Europe is going into the toilet. Oh wait, I mean the loo or something.


Penelope McBagpipe  
You uppity yankees probably don't share printers with others like we do.
Then you'd get me. You'd get me SO MUCH. 

FiveMorePeople  
I think the manual feeders around her prefer to be called Admins or something.


FiveMorePeople  
HERE. GDMFA4SPOSNEB.


merkyl  
People that do those kinds of menial tasks in the states are called "very important business women".
