Favorite moment of the night last night was Roger saying goodbye to Trudy as he was fully aware she was listening in, and loved her saying goodbye back. Trudy
was actually loveable last night, bringing in cake and sandwiches to everybody was gold.
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MAD Men: Just When You Get Your Foot in the Door
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Posts: 6164 (11/09/09 12:37 PM) Registered User |
Loved:
Roger: Peggy can you get me some coffee Peggy: No |
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Posts: 836 (11/09/09 12:47 PM) Local user |
great points by sceptica and greg, amongst others.
this is the don draper show and all roads will eventually lead back to him. we are allowed to see betty in a negative light, but if don didnt have some redeeming qualities, his character just wouldnt hold any sympathy for the viewer. more explaination from gene regarding betty's background and youth would have gone a long way in determining our attitude towards betty. im sure that information was kept vauge intentionally for this very reason. i liked the episode and enjoyed the season, with episode 11 as the one that really stood out for me. ("the gypsy and the hobo") unfortunately, and i hate to say it because its easily my favorite show on television right now, i felt that as a season, it was far inferior to the two preceeding it. right off the bat this season seemed to have an akward pacing and style to it...i dont know, maybe its just me. |
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Posts: 20637 (11/09/09 1:39 PM) Registered user |
Let's not pretend that part of the Don defense doesn't have something to do with wanting to fuck him or be him or both. It's the same reason Joan
is more popular than Peggy. In fact, both Betty and Peggy are missing one of two things that make Joan the total package. Peggy isn't fuckable and Betty
isn't "awesome".
scepticA hit the nail on the head about Betty. Whereas most here don't care and never will, I am curious as to why Betty is the way she is. I'm also far less forgiving of Don. Are people forgetting how easy it is to be nice to children when you barely see them? |
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Posts: 68 (11/09/09 2:55 PM) |
Should we give some consideration to Betty's equestrian hobby now that we've learned how Don's father was killed? I thought that was interesting.
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Posts: 20652 (11/09/09 3:10 PM) Registered user |
I forgot to add...
This is the only man on Mad Men who hasn't cheated on his wife. This is what you're looking for (if you care about fidelity). 
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Posts: 38855 (11/09/09 3:16 PM) Registered user |
I don't think Pete was married when he got Peggy preggers.
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Posts: 837 (11/09/09 3:18 PM) Local user |
actually, maybe im having a brain freeze here, but didnt harry cheat in the first season? i seem to recall the carousel episode (kodak wheel) and harry left
the meeting abruptly in tear.s during don's moving speech, out of what i assume to be guilt over cheating on his wife.
i agree with you on the don comment; lets face it, the man is damn cool and no matter how big of a prick he is, we want to like him. |
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Posts: 20656 (11/09/09 3:30 PM) Registered user |
Pete cheated on his wife this season, gina.
I hope you're wrong about Harry, ogmious. I don't remember him being unfaithul and I don't want to believe he was. |
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Posts: 9381 (11/09/09 4:01 PM) Registered user |
Bulletin Bored wrote: Hah! Yes, yes he was! Don't y'all remember? He even broke his glasses. AND, he promptly confessed to his wife. He slept with a secretary at the election party. They woke up half dressed on his office couch. This was the ep with the creme-de-menth punch that they put in the water cooler. |
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Posts: 3003 (11/09/09 4:03 PM) Registered user |
Bulletin Bored wrote: I hate to say it, but I am pretty sure Harry did cheat last season. He felt so guilty about it that he admitted it to his wife. Probably why he insists on checking with her on everything now as his way of over compensating for cheating on her last season. The only one we haven't seen be unfaithful is Cooper (thank goodness). Either he is too zen to cheat or he just left his cheating days far behind him. |
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Posts: 21569 (11/09/09 4:06 PM) Registered user |
No, I think you're right, so Harry doesn't even have the "but he's a good guy" leg to stand on. Just a constant reminder that life is
hardly fair. I'm curious as to whether Joan's management potential will be realized in Season 4, and if it's done at the expense of Harry. It would
be a nice callback to the subplot where she was showing potential helping him with his TV stuff (a position he practically stumbled upon).
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Posts: 6166 (11/09/09 4:11 PM) Registered User |
Well Sal hasn't cheated on his wife...yet
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Posts: 21570 (11/09/09 4:15 PM) Registered user |
At least not that we saw. What happens in an NYC park, stays in an NYC park.
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Posts: 14312 (11/09/09 5:33 PM) Registered user |
ramble on!
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Posts: 4019 (11/09/09 6:24 PM) |
maxxfisher wrote: This was my favorite part of a perfect episode. I am dying to see where they go with it. And I couldn't help but think how happy quite a few Betty haters here would be when Don called her a whore. |
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Posts: 104 (11/09/09 6:46 PM) Registered user |
Season finale trivia quiz:
http://polls.amctv.com//chart/data/2065-question-1.html 100%, no cheating. Made my night after a crappy Monday. More extras here. |
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Posts: 2030 (11/09/09 7:15 PM) Registered User |
Are we to interpret Connie Hilton's opening discussion with Don as both a "heads up" and challenge to him to set off on his own?
Great episode, and great analyses here guys! |
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Posts: 4910 (11/09/09 7:28 PM) Registered user |
Good going, salome. You were paying attention!
Isn't part of the question, WHY does Don cheat on Bets? It has never seemed to be the obvious (sex), as she is generally surprisingly responsive in that area. I think there have been so many references to Don's love-less childhood, that it seems that he is really seeking love & acceptance so sorely missing from his past. And Betty is totally unable to give that love to either him OR the children. Weiner even played the song "Where is Love?" at the end of a recent episode. What's so sad is that Don doesn't even seem to know that's what he's seeking, and keeps going for the image of family harmony (now shattered) over actual familial affection. Did anyone else think at first when Don told Joanie that he would need a hotel room, and could she set that up, that he meant a hotel room for him to stay at, i.e., a home? Then, when the gang is all in there, with Trudy being the den mother bringing the sandwiches, Don looks genuinely happy -- is this is his real family? |
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Posts: 678 (11/09/09 7:28 PM) Registered User |
I'm interested in what Francis said to Betty about not taking Don's money. It would be silly for her, but she seemed to not mind going along with it.
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