Brooke276 wrote:
Apple6666 wrote:Are you REALLY accusing someone else of not making sense???
MM if Taj Booting at final four doesnt makes any sense who is booted![]()
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Apple6666 |
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MMAN it doesnt matter Erinn is in the final two.
She could just be saying Shit. |
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XiceprinceX |
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As mentioned already, if Stephen honestly is dumb enough to take JT to the finals, he does deserve to lose. If he does have a shot to get JT out and he
doesn't take it--the writing will probably be pretty clear on the wall.
That would seriously be a lack of hindsight on the "mastermind" of this game. He'd stand a much better chance against Taj or Erinn, surely he knows that. I don't think JT has had that great of a game as compared to Stephen, nor do I think JT is worthy of winning over Stephen, but since he's so well liked by the tribe--it's somewhat obvious Stephen would have to fight an uphill battle (when he really shouldn't be based on game performance). I still don't know why JT is so hyped. I mean--he's won one Immunity challenge, and he's went along with Stephen on pretty much every decision (except for when Coach got the boot). Hopefully that should let Stephen know that JT had F2 plans to *probably* try to take Coach since it would be an easy win. Then again--perhaps that's why Stephen decided to save Erinn. He thinks that would be an easy win. It'll be an interesting finale if those two are the F2.... |
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Kirblar |
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I'm kinda leaning towards Erinn in the finals with Steve at this point due to Erinn being completely willing to go into a war of words during the final TC.
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Apple6666 |
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maybe a war or words between JT/Erinn
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MMan9000 |
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But if Coach wasn't lying to the interviewers, Stepehen is one of the final two, so the only person she'd have to get into a war or words with is
Stephen, and I think that would be one thing to watch.
we can say that JT and Stephen will debate if they are the Final Two, but they will not get into a massive argument like the preview seems to indicate. Thus, they really wouldn't be turning on each other, they would just be proving what the others thought. With Erinn vs. Stephen, they aren't close to begin with, so there likely won't be any held remarks between the two. Everyone assumes that they are/were working together from the beginning, so one or the other would try to prove that he did this and they did that, then it would turn into a "he said, she said" thing, which would likely be more worthy of the "Final 2 turning on each other" than the first option. Yet, knowing CBS's ability to hype the predictable.... |
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Apple6666 |
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MM wouldnt a JT/Erinn arugment be good as well.
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Emcee Batley |
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It's very rare we see two men in the final two, it's only happened once (three times if you count Cooks/Fiji). My head says Erinn/Stephen because of
all of this last-minute hype. But my gut is still saying we've got a Stephen/JT finale. Probst isn't on Erinn's balls claiming she is the best
winner ever like he is when hopping all over Stephen and JT.
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MMan9000 |
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But this is Jeff Probst we are talking about. He is not exactly the best giver of spoilers. I figure he was just being general by this point (at least close
enough to have one of the "best winners ever"). Because none of the four left are hated to any extreme. Then, he'd make a blog explaining why
they were the best, and he'd go on and do the same thing with Samoa, and so on...
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Emcee Batley |
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MMan9000 wrote: He was giving his opinion. I swear you and Apple are one in the same and Apple is just a fake account to make you look smarter when you post, but you're still fucking moron. He wouldn't gush over Erinn. Taj, someone could make a case for. But Probst has loved Stephen and JT and it's a sure bet for one of them if they're the final two. |
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iVrd0 |
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Guys, wouldn't this outcome be great?
Remember how Probst said there would be a betrayal in the finale? Well, what if this, slightly more complicated scenario happened? JT obviously wins immunity at F4. Then, the original Jalapao 3 plan to vote out Erinn, of course. But, the JT/Stephen duo realize Taj is a bigger threat, and plan to blindside her. HOWEVER, on top of that, JT doesn't exactly want Stephen in the finale with him, he sees no threat in Erinn and decides to blindside STEPHEN with Erinn. So the tribal council voting would result in: JT: Stephen (blindsiding him with Erinn) Stephen: Taj (thinks he's blindsiding Taj) Erinn: Stephen (blindsiding him with JT) Taj: Erinn (thinks Erinn is normally voted out) Thus providing 2 votes for Steve, and 1 for both Erinn and Taj. This way, everybody would think they were blindsiding the other person, whilst they would be the one blindsided. Here's the synopsis CBS provided: "After one shocking vote, a seed of doubt is planted by a carefully constructed lie that, after the second vote, leaves the final two turning on each other at the final Tribal Council." This would end in a "shocking" (as promised by CBS) F4 vote (which would also be a betrayal by JT), resulting in JT and Erinn making the "constructing lie" after telling Taj it was Stephen who was trying to blindside HER in the first place (technically, this would be true since Steve would vote for Taj at the council, thinking he was blindsiding her). Then Taj would most likely be voted out at the F3 (another betrayal/blindside), leaving JT and Erinn in the F2 turning on each other very likely (she would expose his betrayals, he would criticize her), and JT almost surely winning. What do you think? Wouldn't this be a great outcome? Very likely NOT happening seeing as it would be too complicated for the general public, plus Stephen is apparently in the finale, but still, it would be awesome IMO. Thoughts? |
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MMan9000 |
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I KNOW that's it's likely going to be either Stephen or JT that Probst thinks is the "best winner ever", but I was giving alternatives.
Besides, would Probst really make it that obvious who wins, because I'm sure there are casual viewers that saw the "best winner ever" comment AND
read his blogs, so they would likely put 2 and 2 together and realize that it's either Stephen or JT winning this thing. I know it's doubtful, but I
felt like mentioning that there could be an alternative.
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Alffmix |
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Oh yay, I'd love a 2-1-1 vote :)
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TDB |
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Interesting:
What can we expect from the finale? There's a pretty decent betrayal in the finale. I think it will shock a lot of people, and then for others they'll say "Doesn't surprise me at all." I like the final four ... It's been a pretty remarkable journey for them because there were these two tribes, this Timbira tribe that had the numbers, and all they had to do was pick off the Jalapao people and they would be sitting really pretty. But 'Survivor' has this great element to it and that is there's only one winner, and so no matter how strong your alliance is, somebody's always on the bottom of that alliance ... The thing you can count on is somebody [realizing], "I don't like being on the bottom, so I'm going to the other side," and then you have your twists and you're back in the game. Where does this season rank in 'Survivor' history? Coming into this season, I thought it was going to crack our top five, possibly ... I think it's definitely a top 10 season, but it's hard to know until it's over and you have your winner. But I think everybody's going to be very satisfied with the way this season ends, and hands down we have had one of the biggest characters in the history of our 18 seasons in Coach. http://television.aol.com/insidetv/2009/05/15/5-questions-with-jeff-probst/?icid=main|main|dl2|link6|http%3A%2F%2Ftelevision.aol.com%2Finsidetv%2F2009%2F05%2F15%2F5-questions-with-jeff-probst%2F If JT were to win, wouldn't this season be one of his top 5? |
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XiceprinceX |
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My opinion on this preview is:
"After one shocking vote (Stephen and JT began to suspect betrayal from each other--Taj loses tiebreaker challenge and is booted), a seed of doubt is planted by a carefully constructed lie(JT/Stephen are still suspecting betrayal, and it's all too easy for Erinn to work some mind games), after the second vote (After an intense and somewhat unsure vote, Erinn is booted), leaves the final two turning on each other at the final Tribal Council(JT and Stephen lay everything out in front of the jury about what the other has done)." Just speculation haha. I actually could see it happening like that though.
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MMan9000 wrote:I thought that even before Coach's interview came out. I thought of the final 4 he was the most likely to be in the final 2. Stephen isn't a physical threat (like JT) and Stephen has final 2 deals with at least Taj/JT (it's also possible he has one with Erinn that was never shown). Stephen said in a recent interview (it was posted in one of the threads) that he had final 2 deals with everyone. |
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sunflower101 |
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In the Erinn clip that was posted Erinn said that nobody suspected she was aligned with Jalapao. In that Clip Erinn says she hung around them the whole time
and nobody thought they were aligned. If that's true, then Coach/Debbie/Tyson are bigger morons then anybody ever thought.
I wouldn't rate this season as high as Probst does. I thought Gabon was more unpredictable, but I like the people at the end this year better then last year. Here is the clip again: http://www.youtube.com/wa...amp;feature=channel_page |
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MMan9000 |
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I know I'll be flamed (again) for questioning Probst's thoughts, but like TDB said, wouldn't this season be one of his favorites if an alpha male
finally won? And, the reason I'm doubting a JT win is because it is just too obvious to the common viewers at this point. Everyone I know is expecting a JT
win, and that almost makes it far too obvious to actually happen. Yet, who knows at this point.
And besides, would Probst really all but reveal that his favorites are in the finale ("best winner in a long time" definitely seems to indicate that Probst likes them), and then proceed to tongue-bathe JT and Stephen to no end in his blog? Maybe I'm over analyzing, but I think he's smarter than that.
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pushingjate |
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Probst can go jump off a cliff when Erinn wins the million dollars tonight. ^_^
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Kirblar |
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But 'Survivor' has this great element to it and that is there's only one winner, and so no matter how strong your alliance is, somebody's always on the bottom of that alliance ... The thing you can count on is somebody [realizing], "I don't like being on the bottom, so I'm going to the other side," and then you have your twists and you're back in the game.He keeps going back to this in interviews- It's enough to make me go "hmmmmm" @ the way this season's been edited- I think the casual fan expects a JT/Steve F2, and I'm getting the feeling that Erinn pulls out a Vecepia-like win where she essentially wins the game IN the finale. Erinn's really the only player in the game to ALWAYS have been at the bottom of the alliance pecking order. |
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