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donutsrule |
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oops, you're right. I need more sleep. lol
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Trixiego |
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Just because it can give us an idea THIS week and I ignored it last week.
JT last episode in the beginning discussed how his alliance is Coach, Stephen, Taj, Debbie and Tyson-we heard it and heard it; we knew it. But what was interesting is that when he went fishing with Erinn and talked about Joe with Erinn and Erinn said she liked Jala better, etc. JT's confessional said: "Erinn's vote would be huge cause I lost Joe he was a huge solid vote but now Taj, myself and Stephen and Erinn could easily turn the game around so it's good to know if I need her I can call on her" Not for nothing but I think this is really from THIS week. Really why would JT call Erinn's vote huge for last week? He was a fat happy cat; either could go with Brendan or Coach - Erinn's vote for him should have been incidental. Plus, he said he was with Coach, etc. yet when he talked about Erinn he ONLY mentioned that Taj, himself and Stephen WITH Erinn could turn the game around if he needed her. How could that be for last week? How could those four turn the game around? They wouldn't. I think they put that in last week's episode but it is something that JT discussed for the present episode - entertaining that at this point his Jala alliance with Erinn could turn this game around NOW so it may be something to think about for this week - I mean if this doesn't happen at all why even put it in last week's episode and why put it out of order? |
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anywho |
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okay for some reason I cannot embed today?
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Trixiego |
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LKMOSCAR |
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Game changing=Stephen finds the idol?
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decisionisfinal |
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Life Changing = Stupid emotional story about how much Stephen has learned being out here. How he was a city boy now in the middle of Brazil making fires and
crushing on southern boys.
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Martrae |
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Yeah, but usually an arc like that is a swan song.
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birdlady |
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ETA Thanks for embedding!
Didn't we get life changing/to build a fire from Stephen last week? Although if it is him, I don't think it has to be a swan song. Maybe the story is he and JT do take each other to F2, JT gets a million bucks, and Stephen gets this new life which Probst thinks is more fabulous than his old one. Stephen, Sierra, Taj, Ben.... Hard to imagine Ben getting anything out of it (or anything we'd want to see). Could it be that Sierra is exiled, since no one likes her anyways, and she comes back with an idol and/or some serious cold hard determination? Do we know the Tyson conversation is after the immunity challenge, or could it be follow-up from the previous boot? ETA No Erinn in the preview...
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Oowatanite |
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Trixiego wrote:Good point Trix. If Tyson goes this week, the C/T/D/J/S alliance is kaput and JT has a new alliance of four in a tribe of seven. |
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donutsrule |
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birdlady wrote:That does sound right to me for Sierra. The convo with Tyson is either the day after tribal or after reward but before the immunity challenge. Erinn was shown once in the background behind Sierra when Probst said "and now she's on her own and nobody really wants to hear about it". There was not a single sighting of Coach *THUD!* |
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Wezzie |
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Oh my!
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mahdoo |
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I'm trying not to forget Taj's telling Stephen et al to "Do what you gotta do, and we'll come in later." Also, I remember
Stephen making JT promise that "next time" JT would "flip" if Stephen went along with the JT/C.roach et al in the plan then at hand. Has
all that occurred too long ago to still be pertinent? These schemes seem to be overlapping. The "get Brendan scheme" was delayed by Joe's
medevac, and then what most of us concluded was to be Tyson's boot did become Brendan's. Is this overlap to continue....so that this boot is
Tyson's? Fool me once...etc.
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SJHalle |
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donutsrule wrote: I was thinking the same thing you were thinking birdlady as soon as Probst said the combination of "game changing" and "life changing." Tyson goes on Reward and so does Erinn, so the scenes at camp with Sierra being upset are almost surely between the return from Tribal Council and Reward. Judging from Stephen's last stint on Exile I don't really see how much more growing he can do after starting the fire and surviving on his own. Coach... I don't see him fitting. Sierra could be starting a redemption arch this episode... her second one |
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crocophile |
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Stephen looks awfully wet & shaggy in that line-up. Ya he could learn more about survival with another stint. I still think it's him. Game
changing means not only an Idol but that it comes into play in some way.
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Que |
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"game changing" and "life changing."Sierra does seem to be the one that fits this. NO's: Stephen had his "life moment" last week learning to make fire etc... game changing? not for him, he is at the center of 2 alliances. he can coast through the next few days. JT..nope it is his element Taj... could be life changing to be there by herself but she's a vetern of EI. game changing, not really she's got an alliance. Coach? what does have have to learn? he's lived on EI before. Game? he's in control, he's the dragon slayer! lol Tyson...doesn't seem to fit for game....but could be a life changing expirence for mr caustic..returns a kinder gentler Tyson?? no. Debbie... she's pretty strong but EI could really push her. But not game changing she solid with caoch and Tyson who she believe is running the show. MAYBE: Erinn... yes it could be life changing same as Sierra surviving out there out of her element etc... and yes game changing for her too as she has no allies either. She maybe in the voting block but she is just as an outsider as Sierra. SO either Sierra or Erinn become a power player this ep. |
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birdlady |
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Stephen looks awfully wet & shaggy in that line-up. Ya he could learn more about survival with another stint.Now that we've got more scenes from the shuffleboard, it's definitely raining or been raining there. So the wet part I don't think tells us anything. His face looks dirty to me, which doesn't really even make sense other than obvious he wasn't off at the reward where some cleaning took place. |
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realitygal |
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What was the weather? Maybe Stephen had to survive on Exile without fire. As far as game changing(at least to the casual viewer) maybe he finds the second idol and gives the first one back to Taj. If Sierra is immune Taj would be the logical target for T/C/D. If they play it right they could tell Taj to play the idol then Jt and Stephen reluctantly vote for her with their T/C/D/J/S alliance. Taj votes Tyson. Stephen and Jt keep their hands clean and now have a solid 3 with Taj against C/D and Sierra and Erinn who they could pull in for the fourth. |
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Oowatanite |
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Yeah, since it's raining during the IC, I can see Stephen just being wet from the IC. Sierra is sent to exile for a "life-changing" experience.
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Trixiego |
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Again, and I realize that it is not necessarily a fact but Sierra and Taj usually have their blankets/shawls wrapped around them in the morning or late in the
day (at least that is what I noticed) so I did notice the following:
Tyson/Sierra clip - she has buff around her neck with the shawl covering her - so this could be from the morning after the TC but before the reward? Sierra/Coach clip - She is not wearing the shawl thingie and has no buff that I can see (and whether it means anything when you see Coach talking to the back of her head, she has a lot of hair coming down from her bun but when you see her face head on, it doesn't look like that) so if different time period due to no buff/no shawl maybe this is after the RC since I really don't see anyone else much around and it may only be the two of them there if the others (JT/Debbie/Tyson/Erinn) are gone and one of Stephen or Taj are at EI? The random shots of her with Debbie/Erinn - she has the buff on her head and shawl around her neck but not wrapped around her (not sure when this could be) There is also one short clip where she says "I guess I was blinded" it is the same scenario as the Tyson clip with shawl wrapped around her and buff around her neck (whose arm is that - anyone know? Looks male to me) As an aside nice little push for the possible happy win of Sierra - when the voice over says about will she shock them all and she is shown with a pretty nice smile she isn't wearing the buff on her head and her hair isn't wet like the IC stuff Whatever the above may mean (trying to go for time frame stuff) while I think the shot of Stephen looking really messy (and the strap over his shoulder) is a good clue for exile and I think the points on Sierra as exiled are really good also based on the clues, I have to say when I heard "life changing" though I did think of Taj :shrug. We know she is married to a celebrity, she was/is a celebrity; we know she lives a good life. Jeff even poked fun at her thinking they were getting gift certificates so I did question if going to Exile by herself is a life changing moment for her. Jeff says: "....for this person, I think their time on Exile is probably not only game changing but life changing" This could mean more than one thing regarding game changing. Their time on EI could be game changing by sheer virtue of the fact they are there and others are where they are as opposed to that person exiled actively doing something game change :justsaying. Yeah I know she has been there before but never by herself (but so has Stephen with Brendan and by himself . Jeff notes the survivor is out there "alone" which is obviously the case but this would be her first time alone (as it would with Sierra) and I also remember how Taj had that mini breakdown at Jala with everything being too much) and if not for the cap of Stephen with the strap I agree that last week for him at Exile seemed more fitting for a life changing moment and he has been there with Brendan and now by himself. I also agree with the points on Sierra as possibly being exiled as well (my only hesitancy is if she is having that discussion with Coach after the RC) but I think the points for her being exiled are really good.. So I am wondering if Taj being exiled is a possibility - we also don't see her really in the caps either and if by chance that scene of Coach/Sierra is after the RC then Stephen or Taj could have been exiled as well and I didn't see them there. Also, the IC lineup where we do see Stephen with the strap, while you do see glimpses of some others with no strap, you don't see Taj anywhere. Just a thought for the hell of it... |
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decisionisfinal |
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Interesting points there. Taj going to exile never even crossed my mind, but it could actually be possible.
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