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Posts: 356 (05/10/09 4:18 PM) |
chapera rocks wrote: X Took the words out of my mouth before I could say them. |
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Posts: 2063 (05/10/09 10:28 PM) Registered User |
I think that "convincing" Taj to vote out either JT or Stephen at final four is like asking her to stop making hysterical comments about Coach.... She is so funny but I believe that she will be willing to "take one" for the team. She probably knows that she couldn't win against either Stephen or JT. (Remember that the difference between 2nd place, which I believe is 100K and 3rd place, which I believe is 85K in only 15K. Chump change to her.) To be in the final three without ever turning on her two "brothers" would be worth the 15K. Plus Taj would know that the only reason that Erinn would want the vote to go down this way is so that she (Erinn) could replace her (Taj) in the JT/Stephen/Taj alliance. For Taj to move up, Erinn would have to win the final 3 challenge |
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urrout |
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Posts: 1864 (05/10/09 10:43 PM) Registered user |
I have never heard Taj say she wasn't there to win. I see no reason for her not to take out Stephen or JT if she thought it would help her game. JT
especially since she probably has a F2 deal with Stephen when she asked him to join the EA. Remember what she said to Sierra in one of the insider clips about
it being a game and we can be friends later or something like that.
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Posts: 124 (05/10/09 11:22 PM) |
Bjorkrazy wrote: that was right after the merge. now he has the jury votes counting for stephen and jt. why would he do that unless he was told that they were the final2? and tdt didn't say it was just a guess with the jury votes. if coach leaves at final5 that's going to be one boring finale. they should take out a half hour from the finale and spend it on the reunion. |
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Apple6666 |
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Posts: 915 (05/10/09 11:50 PM) Registered User |
TDT usally have sources.
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JT Rocks |
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Posts: 900 (05/11/09 7:54 AM) Registered user |
urrout wrote: For some reason I think Taj quit trying to play the game since she survived TC6. We haven't heard one strategic comment from her since. It's mostly one of those "I'll do whatever you guys do" comments we heard from her. My point? Taj was probably OK with letting JT/Stephen be F2. |
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urrout |
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Posts: 1865 (05/11/09 10:39 AM) Registered user |
Just because we have not seen her do much on the show recently doesn't mean she hasn't. I see no reason to believe she is playing to get JT and Stephen
to the F2 and not trying to get there herself. She knows it is a game and they can all be friends later. She really prepared to compete on this show so I
don't think she give up on winning just because she likes JT and Stephen.
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Posts: 2069 (05/11/09 12:22 PM) Registered User |
Taj has close relationships with BOTH JT and Stephen. Maybe she believes that if she is in the final three both JT and Stephen would take her over the other.
AND she could be right.... except for the spoiler that she is last on the jury.
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Trixiego |
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Posts: 16865 (05/11/09 1:46 PM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish |
rower wrote:rower :-). The only spoiler to count on with respect to Taj is that she is seen in the spider challenge. |
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Posts: 140 (05/11/09 2:24 PM) |
rower wrote:Absolutely. I don't think Taj (or JT or Stephen) ever imagined it would be "like this", if that makes sense. I'm not too sure how JT feels about Taj, but he was the first one to give her his auction money, and we saw before the reward challenge that she was sitting in his lap. Taj - and possibly the other two - is probably more interested in having all Jalapaos in the final three, just for pride's sake. From there, I wouldn't be surprised if she kissed them both on the cheek and stepped down. (I don't see it, but I wouldn't be surprised.) The only problem with that is that she would be forced to vote between the two, but just as Taj knows JT would take Stephen, JT probably knows that Taj would vote for her Steve-O. JT Rocks wrote:You haven't been paying attention, then. Taj set Sierra up to walk right off a cliff, and she acquiesced beautifully. She also convinced Debbie that Brendan had the idol, and THAT, according to Debbie, is what made them target Brendan. Next time you watch the show, try turning up the sound.
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Posts: 2073 (05/11/09 2:27 PM) Registered User |
THANK YOU Trixigo - I didn't think that Taj being last juror was a spoiler but they way people are posting, I thought I had maybe missed something. At
last "word" from someone who knows the difference between the two. You are my favorite!!
So I guess my last statement about Taj having a close relationship with her two "brothers" may be her reasoning for keeping the alliance intact. She thinks that she will be the choice of both of them for the final two. |
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Posts: 2074 (05/11/09 2:35 PM) Registered User |
I agree 100% that Taj definitely has some bragging rights about her part in the "plan." Just because she hasn't been a "featured
player" doesn't mean she is not working or assisting in putting the strategies in motion along that the three of them come up with. Seems like the 3
of them prior to every TC get together alone and agree on the plan of action. I think she is a valued member of the alliance and both the guys would agree.
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Posts: 17764 (05/11/09 2:39 PM) Registered User |
Plus Taj would know that the only reason that Erinn would want the vote to go down this way is so that she (Erinn) could replace her (Taj) in the JT/Stephen/Taj alliance. For Taj to move up, Erinn would have to win the final 3 challenge Erinn would be trying to take Taj's place in the JT/Stephen/Taj alliance by voting out JT? Am I reading that right? |
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craig |
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Posts: 15630 (05/11/09 6:27 PM) Registered User |
chapera rocks wrote: What does Fang being more disunited than Jollypal have to do with Erinn being with Fang? Sugar cried when she voted off Charlie, she lobbied to save Bob, she was never a completely loyal Fang. Always had her own idiotic agenda just like Coach this season. They've betrayed everyone else in the game, so they'll happily do it to Erinn. Except Erinn is the best goat. It's Stephen and Taj's best interest to boot JT if he doesn't have the necklace at F2. Then Stephen and Taj are both best off facing Erinn (Taj's wishes at F3 are irrelevant since I don't see her winning immunity). Erinn would be trying to take Taj's place in the JT/Stephen/Taj alliance by voting out JT? (a) Taj is much closer to Stephen than JT (b) Taj probaby thinks that if JT goes at F4 she has an excellent chance of making F2, plus it helps her buddy Stephen's shot at winning. (c) Taj has bonded with Erinn over mutual Coach hate, which JT doesn't relate to.
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Posts: 668 (05/11/09 6:57 PM) |
craig wrote:Ignore all that. Anyway, Coach is likely to be gone next. I see the TDT list being accurate but with Stephen beating JT despite what Debbie has said about Stephen not being perceived as the mastermind. It's going to be a close vote, I tell you that. 4-3 most likely. I miss all the blow-out votes we used to have, not to the extent of Earl's 9 vote victory but a 6-1 or something of that matter. It'd be nice to see a proper 7-0 for once but with two guys in the final two who have run the game, it seems unlikely. |
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chapera rocks |
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Posts: 11024 (05/11/09 8:34 PM) Registered User |
Fang was a united team, jackass. They eliminated all the annoying opposition, which is when Sugar decided to keep un-annoying Bob. That's not even the point, you said Erinn is more Pao than Sugar ever was Fang which is completely and utterly moronic, given how in Sugar was with the Fang dynamics ... what Sugar's intentions were is besides the point. |
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JT Rocks |
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Posts: 911 (05/11/09 10:38 PM) Registered user |
intlschizo wrote: I'll admit I didn't pay much attention to Taj's game post-merge because unless you try to seek for it, it's pretty hidden. I don't see the point of trying to look for explanation of something that clearly doesn't matter. What I know from watching the episodes and several insider clips is Taj has become JT/Stephen's entourage since the merge. Can she still win? Yes. Does she seem like she cares to win? No. That's why I implied it's unlikely she will side with Erinn to knock out one of JT/Stephen, even if that's the safer way to ensure a F2 spot. You can't underestimate the bond between Jalapao 3. I see people here trying to come up with tons of scenario to void JT/Stephen F2, which is fine. But you can't assume something is "right" just because you think that's what the book says how one should play the game. |
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craig |
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Posts: 15633 (05/12/09 8:20 AM) Registered User |
CR, why are still such a rabid fanboy about Gabon that you can't discuss it without becoming just as insulting and narrow-minded as RVS at his worst? Matty voted for Crystal premerge, jackass. Sugar knew Kenny lied to her about Ace, and Sugar was bugging Kenny to boot annoying Crystal well before she left. The difference is that Fang were so disunited that both original factions wanted loose cannon Sugar as their third. Jollypal has ONE person, JT, who clearly wants to the original pecking order to hold because it's in his interest and he's a bit too trusting. But it looks like Erinn may find a place with Stephen if you look very closely at the editing (not just the surface). But Erinn isn't schemeing to help Sierra, Debbie, or Coach last further than is in the interest of Jollypal. Her game is 100% with them. Hell, she needed to compete with and outplay FIVE other Timbits in joining them. Sugar liked people on both tribe, hated others, and played a Coach-like game trying to help her fave alpha males win. Sugar was her own Team Sugar with it's own idiotic agenda. |
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urrout |
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Posts: 1867 (05/12/09 9:36 AM) Registered user |
JT Rocks wrote:Where do you get this? Nowhere has it been shown that Taj is playing to get JT and Stephen to the F2 together. It hasn't even been shown that she wants either in the F2 with her. Taj either goes to the F3 with JT/S knowing that the F3 winner will (should) take her if they want the best chance to win or she wants to go the F3 with the ones who she thinks she has the best chance to beat. And Taj would not be siding with Erinn at F4 but with her choice of JT or Stephen, probably Stephen. Either because she has a F2 deal with Stephen or because she knows she has no chance to beat JT. Taj knows this is a game and even if she were to give up immediately at F3 because she wants JT/Stephen in the F2 together, they won't (shouldn't) take each other. Taj has 3 choices: 1. She knows she has no chance to win so she sticks with both JT and Stephen and let them decide who takes her to the F2. 2. She knows she has no chance to win so she plays so that the one she wants to win has the best chance which means taking out the other at F4 with Erinn. 3. She thinks she has a chance to win so she takes out her biggest threat at F4 with Erinn. Now she still has 2 people who will probably take her to the F2. She would have to convince Stephen (JT) that taking Erinn to the F2 may mean another "Chris/ Danni" winner. JT Rocks wrote: Because it makes no sense. Why would they take their biggest threat to the F2 and risk the win? If they are the great players that we are supposed to believe, they won't do it. |
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Posts: 146 (05/12/09 10:17 AM) |
urrout wrote: #1 is as good of an option as any. She can play the "rich wife" angle, keeping the charity angle in her back pocket. Plus she doesn't lose any points in the eyes of the person who isn't chosen. |
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