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FeliciaM7 |
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Pegs, I'll be surprised if Sayid makes it to the end of this season. I've been wondering what the show has left to do with him.
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EnricoV |
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WiscBadger95 wrote: You mean don't post spoilers for anyone on the East Coast. The rest of the country ... you're all posting spoilers. |
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WiscBadger95 |
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Tonight's episode was so reminiscent of Eko's swan song episode, that I really was expecting Sayid to die at the end.
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EnricoV |
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FeliciaM7 wrote: I don't really care, as long as he's looking as hot as he did tonight. I lurved dark, long-haired Assasin-Sayid. Not to mention, he's a damn fine actor. |
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WiscBadger95 |
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EnricoV wrote:No, I mean spoilers as in what's going to happen in future episodes. The forum rules state that once something airs on the East Coast, it's fair game. West coast posters are supposed to understand that. |
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tigeranne |
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I apologize if I repeat anything that anyone else has posted... I am always afraid to read these threads in case of inadvertant spoilers. I don't even
watch the previews. I love being surprised.
I don't think Ben will be dead, since he's alive in the future. I just can't imagine him not being around as an adult anymore. Darlton would be idiots to not have Michael Emerson around anymore.... Also- as soon as Sayid said he "knows why I'm here", I knew he intended to kill young Ben. My big question is WHEN WILL MY JOHNNY RETURN TO THE SCREEN? I want my Locke fix. seriously. also, Jack looked edible tonight. omg. |
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jamesriver |
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Have we seen Ben with his shirt off, like when he was having surgery? I guess he was on his stomach for that.
I'm convinced this has to be a time loop because Charlotte remembered Daniel from her childhood, when he presumably hadn't been there yet. And do we know yet why Ben said to Sayid last year the thing about "we all remember what happened the last time you thought with your heart instead of your gun"? |
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SardonicallyIrrelevant |
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Wow, I haven't disliked an episode that much since the start of season 3. Except for the end it was total filler.
Sad. |
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twonyx |
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Maybe Locke could walk after the plane crash because somehow his father never pushed him out the window. (The past was changed). Like if Little Ben dies, Big
Ben disappears.
Then again, if the past was changed and Locke was never pushed out the window; why was he on the walkabout. Unless that bald black man told him to go in a different present. AAAAhhhhh, I'm getting a nose bleed. Carry on. |
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phantomkp |
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SardonicallyIrrelevant wrote:Filler? I dunno...seemed like a completely necessary episode to me. Sure, it wasnt glamorous, but it was necessary. We needed an episode to show how Sayid got on the plane. I thought it was an elegant explanation. We needed an episode that shows young Ben tip toeing his way to the hostiles, forming an early bond with people he will fuck with (manipulate) in his later years, and going through early trauma that no doubt makes him creepier and creepier. We needed an episode that tries to explain the relationship between Sayid and Ben...not just the younger Ben relationship (dealing with a mysterious man who double crosses him) but the older relationship when Sayid worked for Ben. And how both of those inherently affected each other from beginning to end. And for that, i think the episode did a fine job manuevering through all that density. Was it glitzy, did it have wtf moments, did it delve into cool mythology? No. It stuck strictly on chartacter motivation and creation. Alot of people find that boring..but its necessary. Ok, people seem to say the last 5 minutes of the show make it worth it...the only good thing about the episode. But trust me, you cant have those 5 minutes without the setup of the history between Sayid and Ben. So it attempted that. And it did a decent job. I can only assume the subsequent episodes will further how this has affected both Sayid and Ben....and then maybe you can appreciate the groundwork laid out by this episode. Having said all that, Ben aint dead. He leads the purge years later. We see him in 2004 and 2007. For whatever reason, he didnt die. The Island will "save him" somehow, which will begin his suspicions he is "special" and the "chosen leader". All the things he doesnt want to face about Locke. So really, Sayid's anger toward the power that Ben has seemingly corrupted all these years...his actions will be the very thing that propells Ben to become the egomaniacal monster we know and love. These are the more beautiful parts of the show, IMO. |
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Bonzos Montreux |
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Can a unremoved bullet cause a tumor? Could explain that Ben heals, but the bullet is still lodged in him, near his spine, neccesitating removal from future
Jack.
I could see them doing an xray and saying, "Well that missed your heart, but it's too close to your spine to remove it. Shouldn't cause you any future problems though." |
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nobodysfool |
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wasn't ben's tumor near his kidneys though? quite a distance between heart and kidneys.
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BJ |
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My theory about hearing the numbers transmission is that as the plane approached the island it briefly passed through the 70's, dropped off Jack,Kate,etc
then returned to the present.
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WallJ |
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For a guy who is supposed to be a super-soldier, fighter, and torturer, Sayid sure does get captured a lot.
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Tigernanama |
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Mel could you go do us all a favor and drink some bleach or something? "Remember where you are...." Go fuck yourself, entitled prick.
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sun surfer |
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I liked this episode for the most part but I had two big problems with it -
#1 - It was almost laughably funny how they build up this Oldham guy as some super-torturer through the first part of the episode, then he tortures Sayid terribly by........giving him a drug to tell the truth. Oh, the torture! #2 - Sayid shoots Ben once then walks away. If Ben really does die, I'll be OK with it. But seeing as chances are extremely good he doesn't, I have a problem with this. Sayid is a trained killer. He would make sure Ben is dead before walking away. Like, shot in the heart or right through the head dead. The kind the island can't "cure" Ben of, like it did Locke's empty kidney space wound. Now, if the island brings him back to life like Locke's dead body on the plane, then that's OK, as long as Ben was completely dead to begin with. Because otherwise, that's sloppy writing, that Sayid the trained killer would happen not to kill Ben somehow. |
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McWolcott |
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Naveen Andrews is a brilliant actor. I loved this episode, even though I have no clue how it's going to work out.
Everytime I see William Sanderson I think of EB and it cracks me up. "oops" |
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Cheyenie |
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FeliciaM7 wrote: Yeah, Sayid is a dead man walking. I loved his scene when he was tied to the tree. That laugh was awesome. His line about a 12-year Ben bringing him a sandwich was good too. I know many were disappointed with this episode, but I enjoyed seeing Sayid's story. It does seem like they closed the book on his story though. Too bad, because Naveen Andrews has great range as an actor. I doubt Ben is dead too. I knew Sayid wanted to kill him, but I still didn't expect him to shoot him. I assumed someone or something would intervene before he got a chance. |
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Manila ESQ |
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SardonicallyIrrelevant wrote: Before the ending, I was thinking that this episode was boring. Maybe, I thought, I didn't really like Sayid's character in the first place. But when IT finally happened, everything just made sense. That's why we were shown what a young Sayid is capable of doing, as well as the dynamics between Ben and Sayid. The ending would not be that great if not for the build up leading to that scene. |
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DelosWorld |
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BJ wrote: Just like when Hurley heard the 40's big band music on his radio. It doesn't mean that events changed but just that radio waves came to the island through a wormhole or something from another time. The island is all jumbled up. It's interesting that perhaps the only reason the DI ever thought about experimenting with time travel is because Sayid and company might make the concept plausible to the DI and Ann Arbor. Nobody on the island ever seemed to know about time travel until the folks came back from the future, and that includes Mr. Island himself, Richard Alpert. |
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