y'all couldn't come up with a good monicker for him?
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CBRetriever |
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Phoenix?
y'all couldn't come up with a good monicker for him? |
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NVRebel |
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Yes, Phoenix. That's the best we could do. We also had the Baseline Rapist named after...wait for it...Baseline Road. Our creativity is staggering.
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goner1 |
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i watched Wonderland tonight - cool movie. who lives around there? i'd be spooked.
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Nonentitled |
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I just recently read about Sylvia Likens. What a sad story. That woman was a sick twat, and those kids were just as bad. The house where all that happened is still there, and if you look up Sylvia Likens on YouTube there's a video that shows Sylvia's face appearing in the upstairs windows. |
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factoryhurl |
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BackBayBerries wrote: did you see the film on showtime with catherine keener as getrude and ellen page as sylvia? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0802948/ The film tells the tale of Sylvia (Ellen Page) and her younger sister Jennie Faye (Hayley McFarland) moving into the Baniszewski household after their parents Lester (Nick Searcy) and Betty (Romy Rosemont) Likens have to extend their work as carnival workers in the state of Indianapolis. The film then tales the true tale of horror upon Sylvia committed by Gertrude (Catherine Keener) and her evil children. |
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StarrEise |
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That movie was grim.
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NewOrleansIsSinking |
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hwamf wrote: Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka - Went to school with victim |
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ashley madison |
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hockey playoff riots
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PassionatePiscesMan |
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Overdue books. The library is nearly empty
But we will come knocking down the door at midnite of the scofflaws |
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BackBayBerries |
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factoryhurl wrote:I did see it. It was a good movie, but so disturbing. I know the sister was afraid she'd get the same treatment if she told anyone, although I still don't understand how she could just go day after day and not get help. But I don't get the other neighborhood children. They didn't have any fear that they'd get the same treatment, so why didn't they tell their parents? So fucked up. I love Catherine Keener. She was great in that role. |
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Miles Edgeworth |
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Plenty of them, but this is the one I heard about the most in college.
Kitty Genovese |
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JaniTholeMyDolly |
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Nonentitled wrote:The Sylvia Likens story was horrible. I happen to catch the movie because it had my new favoite actress Ellen Page in it and then I looked up the story. I just don't understand how someone could brutalize a child. They found a child here a few years ago- a genuine "Feral Child"- there have only been a handful of genuine Ferals found (Thank God). Her mother had kept her in a closet her whole life- she was 7 but couldn't speak, couldn't walk, coudn't feed herself or swallow. She was still in diapers. She had never been stimulated in any way. her name is Dani and a couple took her in. Her story made me cry. Here is some of it, and a link at the bottom..... The police officers walked through the front door, into a cramped living room. "I've been in rooms with bodies rotting there for a week and it never stunk that bad," Holste said later. "There's just no way to describe it. Urine and feces - dog, cat and human excrement - smeared on the walls, mashed into the carpet. Everything dank and rotting." Tattered curtains, yellow with cigarette smoke, dangling from bent metal rods. Cardboard and old comforters stuffed into broken, grimy windows. Trash blanketing the stained couch, the sticky counters. The floor, walls, even the ceiling seemed to sway beneath legions of scuttling roaches. "It sounded like you were walking on eggshells. You couldn't take a step without crunching German cockroaches," the detective said. "They were in the lights, in the furniture. Even inside the freezer. The freezer!" While Holste looked around, a stout woman in a faded housecoat demanded to know what was going on. Yes, she lived there. Yes, those were her two sons in the living room. Her daughter? Well, yes, she had a daughter . . . The detective strode past her, down a narrow hall. He turned the handle on a door, which opened into a space the size of a walk-in closet. He squinted in the dark. At his feet, something stirred. • • • First he saw the girl's eyes: dark and wide, unfocused, unblinking. She wasn't looking at him so much as through him. She lay on a torn, moldy mattress on the floor. She was curled on her side, long legs tucked into her emaciated chest. Her ribs and collarbone jutted out; one skinny arm was slung over her face; her black hair was matted, crawling with lice. Insect bites, rashes and sores pocked her skin. Though she looked old enough to be in school, she was naked - except for a swollen diaper. "The pile of dirty diapers in that room must have been 4 feet high," the detective said. "The glass in the window had been broken, and that child was just lying there, surrounded by her own excrement and bugs." When he bent to lift her, she yelped like a lamb. "It felt like I was picking up a baby," Holste said. "I put her over my shoulder, and that diaper started leaking down my leg." The girl didn't struggle. Holste asked, What's your name, honey? The girl didn't seem to hear. http://www.tampabay.com/features/humaninterest/article750838.eceHer name, her mother had said, was Danielle. She was almost 7 years old. She weighed 46 pounds. She was malnourished and anemic. In the pediatric intensive care unit they tried to feed the girl, but she couldn't chew or swallow solid food. So they put her on an IV and let her drink from a bottle. Aides bathed her, scrubbed the sores on her face, trimmed her torn fingernails. They had to cut her tangled hair before they could comb out the lice. Her caseworker determined that she had never been to school, never seen a doctor. She didn't know how to hold a doll, didn't understand peek-a-boo. "Due to the severe neglect," a doctor would write, "the child will be disabled for the rest of her life." Hunched in an oversized crib, Danielle curled in on herself like a potato bug, then writhed angrily, kicking and thrashing. To calm herself, she batted at her toes and sucked her fists. "Like an infant," one doctor wrote. She wouldn't make eye contact. She didn't react to heat or cold - or pain. The insertion of an IV needle elicited no reaction. She never cried. With a nurse holding her hands, she could stand and walk sideways on her toes, like a crab. She couldn't talk, didn't know how to nod yes or no. Once in a while she grunted. She couldn't tell anyone what had happened, what was wrong, what hurt. Dr. Kathleen Armstrong, director of pediatric psychology at the University of South Florida medical school, was the first psychologist to examine Danielle. She said medical tests, brain scans, and vision, hearing and genetics checks found nothing wrong with the child. She wasn't deaf, wasn't autistic, had no physical ailments such as cerebral palsy or muscular dystrophy. The doctors and social workers had no way of knowing all that had happened to Danielle. But the scene at the house, along with Danielle's almost comatose condition, led them to believe she had never been cared for beyond basic sustenance. Hard as it was to imagine, they doubted she had ever been taken out in the sun, sung to sleep, even hugged or held. She was fragile and beautiful, but whatever makes a person human seemed somehow missing. Armstrong called the girl's condition "environmental autism." Danielle had been deprived of interaction for so long, the doctor believed, that she had withdrawn into herself. The most extraordinary thing about Danielle, Armstrong said, was her lack of engagement with people, with anything. "There was no light in her eye, no response or recognition. . . . We saw a little girl who didn't even respond to hugs or affection. Even a child with the most severe autism responds to those." Danielle's was "the most outrageous case of neglect I've ever seen." You can click on the link to read more. There is even some links to an audio of an interview with Dani's new mother. It's very unsetteling- when she cries she sounds like an infant crying, and she's 8 years old now. Here is Dani with her new family:
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JaniTholeMyDolly |
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factoryhurl wrote: Is that what she's called .... "The Tot Mom"?? I had no idea. They always just say "Casey" or "Caylee" here in the local news. |
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redkramer77 |
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Sugar Land, TX.
Two high school boys decided to shoot their friend in the head becasue they wanted to know what it would feel like to kill someone. |
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JaniTholeMyDolly |
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goner1 wrote:For some reason I was intrigued by that story- that happened in Laurel Canyon. Anyone who lives there is very wealthy. It was (and still is to those still alive) home to The Doors, Frank Zappa, Joan Baez, Joni Mitchell, Danny Sugerman (who lived on Wonderland Ave. and wrote an amazing book about it), Chuck Negron, The Mamas and the papas and many, many others. I actually have the original murder scene video of the Wonderland murders- complete with bodies and all- on DVD. I also have the court transcripts with Susan Launis and David Linds testimony. It's pretty clear Eddie Nash's crew along with Greg Diles killed them (set up by John Holmes of course)- but they have never been able to prove it, nor do they want to take the time to try. It's hard to believe 4 people could be beat to death with lead pipes and not enough evidence was left around to convict anyone?? Unreal |
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cindidindi76 |
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She will always be "tot mom" to Nancy.
I just saw something on tv about that little girl a couple weeks ago, it was so sad. I have no idea why the fuck I kept watching, because it started out talking about another little girl who had been kept out in the yard like a dog, and still kind of acts like a dog. There is not enough punishment avaliable for the people who do that shit. |
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JaniTholeMyDolly |
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NewOrleansIsSinking wrote: Which one? Kristen French or Leslie Mohaffey? I heard Karla Holmolka just had a baby. That whole deal she got was bullshit- she helped rape, murder, and dispose of 2 teenage girls. Not to mention she drugged her own sister when she was 15, and allowed Paul to rape her- and ultimately Karla killed her own sister since SHE gave her the drug that killed her. She served less than 10 years and is now out, married and having a baby? |
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StarrEise |
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Jani, that Dani story is heartbreaking. I just read the linked story.
The mom had an IQ of 77! How can people not know that someone with that low of an IQ is unfit to raise a child? Boggles the mind. |
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factoryhurl |
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jani, wonderland murders lookie loo, too. have you been to dawn's site?
there is a discovery channel show about feral children in russia that is really interesting. sad. |
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JaniTholeMyDolly |
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She will always be "tot mom" to Nancy. |
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