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ilikelissie |
Crazy unabomber type guy blows up AIG executives.... |
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That headline wouldn't bother me.
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Hamdingers |
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I got wood just reading that.
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merkyl |
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Good to see that people are buying this nice diversion tactic from the gub'ment.
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ilikelissie |
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Holy shit, you have a lot of posts.
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Hamdingers |
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Not chicken fried bacon wood, but close.
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SirPaulMuaddib |
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no linkie...no believie
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factoryhurl |
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it's a pipe(bomb) dream.
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OuijaBroad |
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I've never felt so let down in all my life.
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lurkylurky |
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SirPaulMuaddib wrote: I can tell you are very smart and hard to fool!!! |
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Mister Peepers |
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So the government gives billions to AIG with no strings and no oversight and AIG execs are the bad guys?
Crazy unabomber type guy blows up member of congress.... |
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Pahrump Mania |
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It's upsetting but a contract is a contract. In the end Obama is going to look foolish, pretending that he's going to do something to stop the bonuses
from being paid.
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DelosWorld |
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This is what happens when you dance with the devil by the pale moonlight.
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Dharmit |
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OuijaBroad wrote:I could cry. Fucking ILL. |
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meatball77 |
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b) Speaking of punishing AIG: Rep. Gary Peters (D-MI) plans to introduce a bill to tax AIG bonuses at a high rate this year. A spokesman for Peters says that
details are still being worked out. Targeting legislation at one company is tantamount to the Congress's passing a bill of attainder against AIG. But these
are extraordinary times.
http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/03/treasury_considers_bailout_reduction_for_aig.php |
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memyselfandi |
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Mister Peepers wrote: APG = Bill Ayers? |
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memyselfandi |
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Pahrump Mania wrote:Exactly. A contract is a contract. Thus just about any lawyer can find a way to break it. The same way the contracts the autoworkers had with the Big 3 were broken as a condition of their companies getting bailout money. |
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Goosehead |
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I was just about to mention the autoworkers' contracts. A contract's a contract if you're a rich corporate type, but not so much if you're a
working class stiff who needs to sacrifice for the good of the company, i.e., to benefit the rich corporate types that need their bonuses.
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DelosWorld |
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memyselfandi wrote: The auto unions made concessions as a part of a pre-agreement before the money was passed out. It's hardly the same thing as a third party like a judge or other third party breaking the contracts. In the case of AIG apparently the government was stupid enough to lend the money in a haphazard fashion without crafting a proper legal document. Also since the bail-out money to AIG is a loan about all the government should really be able to do is to call the loan for immediate payback, assuming they want to risk the after effects. Because AIG did not go into bankruptcy there's not much the courts can do to interfere with existing contracts written by the company prior to the loan. It's probably tough bippies for the government. |
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Goosehead |
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Yah that's true. Fuck, the government was stupid to give that money out so quickly without conditions or whatever. But isn't the money that was given
to the auto industry also a series of loans?
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donbrasco4 |
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memyselfandi wrote:The only part of the UAW contract that changed was the job bank, and that was a concession the UAW agreed to. Once GM and Chrysler eventually file for prepackaged BK, the entire contract is toast anyhow. |
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DelosWorld |
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Goosehead wrote: I think most of the money is loan money. There might be some earmarks to the auto companies for the development of lithium batteries or other clean propulsion technologies. But if the car companies go kaputt then the government won't get the money back either. Considering that there are no real auto people on the government board trying to now guide the companies out of trouble it's highly likely that at least one of the companies will go kaputt. This all won't end well. When the government throws money at failure I don't see how that's a good investment. And they keep doing it over and over and over again! This is what happens when you dance with the devil by the pale moonlight. |
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