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Posts: 3259 (06/07/09 12:39 PM) Registered User |
If Jamie ever once seemed like the type of person who gave a rat's ass whether or not it was appropriate to do anything that would benefit herself, I might
cut her some slack. But given that she's probably the most nasty and self-absorbed person this show has ever seen short of Jonathan (and even he was
polite to locals) she gets no free passes.
Even KKKendra knew the race wasn't a real emergency. |
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Posts: 17776 (06/08/09 8:44 AM) Not a team player
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I am surprised that bob, an ultra-conservative, would think that ANY emergency system can be abused is A-OK.
Just goes to prove my long held belief that anyone who believes that GWB was a good president is, in fact. a fucking retard. |
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 8244 (06/08/09 3:44 PM) Registered user |
SurvivorArctic wrote: Where did she say this? |
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bob2559 |
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Posts: 5854 (06/08/09 4:17 PM) Registered user |
SurvivorArctic wrote: The fact that you believe I'm an ultra-conservative shows what a very small grasp of reality you have. If Jaime called 911 and kept an operator occupied for more than 30 seconds, then bad Jaime. But if she called 911 and either asked for a non-emergency number she could call, or asked to be transferred, then I can only assume that, like bubbybear, your condemnation of this act is based strictly upon the fact that you didn't like her. But both you and the interviewer seem to be ready to make assumptions that are based on incomplete information and then make judgments based on those assumptions. Gee... isn't that the kind of thing you usually bash conservatives for doing? |
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kmill |
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Posts: 2092 (06/08/09 5:56 PM) Registered user |
If she just needed another number, couldn't she call the operator?
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bubbybear |
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Posts: 3262 (06/08/09 6:26 PM) Registered User |
But if Jamie had been aware of the un-hecticness of the Maui emergency system, or had asked to be transferred, wouldn't it have behooved her to say so in the interview - especially since she was convinced that the big, meanie interviewer was just out to make her look bad? Wouldn't it have made sense to try to explain herself fully and defend what she did? But as it stands, the only excuse she could come up with for tying up an emergency phone line was that her cab fare was running up. So she then had to resort to doing she always does when things don't go her way - throwing a temper tantrum. I'm curious if she was in a car accident and got a big, ugly scar across the middle of her face how long anyone would put up with her shit? |
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SurvivorArctic |
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Posts: 17800 (06/08/09 8:52 PM) Not a team player
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One read of the OT political thread tells me all I need to know about you, bob.
And calling the 911 EMERGENCY line for anything other than an EMERGENCY is punishable by fines and jail time where I live. Anyone with a lick of sense knows you dial 9-1-1 for the police, medical assistance or if you see or are in a fire. "911 EMERGENCY, what is the nature of the assistance you need" doesn't = directions. Fucking retards. All of you who think it is acceptable just because she was in a 'laid back city'. Fucking retards. |
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Posts: 466 (06/13/09 6:43 PM) |
The only call that an operator should respond to is "Help, I need a doctor." What if Victor called 9-11 to complain about a traffic jam or directions to the final pitstop. The gingerbeast fans would be sharpening their pitchforks.�
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bob2559 |
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Posts: 5864 (06/14/09 10:54 AM) Registered user |
Here's something that anyone who knows how to google can find with 30 seconds of effort Crime In Hawaii 2007.
In 2007, Maui had a total of 5091 crimes. 5091 /365 = 14 per day or .6 per hour. Now let's say that each crime listed created five 911 calls, so we're up to 3 per hour. Let's further stipulate that for every crime there was some other criminal incidence that did not make this report and each of those created 5 calls each, now we're up to 6 calls per hour. Next let's go with the assumption that for every crime related 911 call there was an equal number of other emergency services calls, so now we're sitting at 12 calls per hour. And finally let's say this number is still too low and up it to 30 calls per hour, that's one call every two minutes. Of course we know that 911 staffing can't be based on the average number of calls per minute, because a real emergency will generate multiple calls and you need to staff based on being able to handle those moments. But for the sake of argument, let's say there are only three 911 operators on duty at any given time on Maui, that means they are handling an average of one call every six minutes. Does that sound like an increasingly choked 911 system to you? The interviewer could have spent the same five minutes I did doing this research, but apparently felt making a snarky editorial comment was more important. |
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kmill |
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Posts: 2112 (06/14/09 11:21 AM) Registered user |
I didn't read all that crap because, bottom line, 911 is for emergencies no matter which way you wanna say it. You trying to justify things by saying they
aren't busy isn't going to change anyone's opinion on the aforementioned fact.
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Apprentice Talker |
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Posts: 8813 (06/14/09 7:14 PM) WRP Official Spokesperson |
I rewatched TAR14 again. I see Caramie again.
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Posts: 89 (06/14/09 10:12 PM) |
Well, it doesn't matter anymore. Jamie/Cara lost because of their taxi karma and that's good enough for me.
I prefer the nickname Jacara. Caramie sounds really stupid. |
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Conner123 |
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Posts: 13 (06/14/09 11:00 PM) |
bob2559 wrote: Those stats are completely irrelevant. 1) No one calls 911 for non-emergency reasons by first calculating the odds of an actual emergency happening for a particular region. 2) In any case, those are just averages. In other words, even if your stats are correct, fourteen crimes may be committed a day ON AVERAGE, but this does not necessarily mean that most days see 14 crimes or that the crimes are spaced out evenly. A non-essential call may happen during a time when multiple emergencies are occurring. Sometimes emergencies cluster, just like a business, for example, that is slow for an hour then sees customers appear in bunches. This is why 911 lines must be cleared for emergency situations only. 3) Finally, in many cases, it is simply illegal to call 911 for trivial purposes. Even when legal, it is a selfish act. Just own up to it: your bias is getting in the way. Instead of calling 911, she should have called the police department directly, even if it meant waiting an extra couple of minutes to get a hold of an officer at the station. You do not call 911 to get directions for a race. There was no harm done, but as a former police officer, Jaime should have known better. |
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SurvivorArctic |
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Posts: 18017 (06/15/09 3:33 PM) Not a team player
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Talking sense to bob is like talking sense to a retarded, deaf dog.
There just isn't any point to it because even if he could hear you, there is no way he is smart enough to get what you are saying. But his absolute stupidity here is NOTHING compared to his absolute stupidity in the OT political thread. |
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bob2559 |
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Posts: 5872 (06/15/09 4:30 PM) Registered user |
You've obviously never had much interaction with real cops.
And since all of you are being so totally unforgiving about her calling 911, then I can only assume that none of you ever speed when you're out driving. Because all of the arguments you make for not using 911 unless it's an emergency can be made against speeding just as easily. It's illegal in all 50 states, it puts others at risk, if there is a valid emergency then the police will let you get away with it, lack of traffic on the roadway is no excuse. I'm in awe that there are so many posters in this forum who never speed. Or you could all just admit that you just don't like Jaime and this is just another excuse you're hanging onto to justify that dislike. |
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kmill |
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Posts: 2115 (06/15/09 5:34 PM) Registered user |
bob2559 wrote: Can you say reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhing? There is no relevance between speeding and calling 911, sorry. |
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Conner123 |
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Posts: 14 (06/15/09 6:10 PM) |
bob2559 wrote:That's a terrible analogy. I'm not excusing speeding per se, but there is almost no relation between speeding and hindering emergency services from performing their jobs. 911 by its very nature is designed specifically for emergencies. Let me repeat that. 911 was created to handle emergencies only. I don't understand why you feel the need to defend what was clearly a selfish action by Jaime. Let's break your argument down. You're essentially saying that it's okay for people to call 911 for directions. How many times in your life have you been in a situation when you desperately needed directions because you were lost or late for an important meeting or event. For myself, numerous times. I would imagine this is true for most people. Now, consider if everyone used 911 for directions for important but not necessarily life-threatening events (because let's face it, 911 would be a very good source). In many cases, this would render 911 useless for real emergencies. This is common sense and there is nothing you can say to argue around it. Or is there, hehe? What kind of bizarre analogy will you come up with next?
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Posts: 8321 (06/15/09 7:41 PM) Registered user |
Pray tell, what important situations were these man, and did you find where you were going?
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Posts: 15 (06/15/09 7:48 PM) |
Late for a wedding. Used to live in Manhattan and every once in a while would get lost for a business meeting. Whatever, who cares? Everyone finds
themselves in these situations eventually. My point is what if everyone used 911 for these semi-important (to them)--but trivial relative to most 911
emergency calls--reasons?
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 8326 (06/15/09 9:10 PM) Registered user |
I agree that using 911 is for emergencies only, I'm just wrapping my mind over someone else they could have called.
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