Harper's Island--Decent Summer Slasher

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Mystery Buff		#3721	[-]
Posts: 36 (06/16/09 5:07 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Good point, Phaoxx. That's the kind of stuff that I write down and wonder if it's important later. If there's a scene where there are two people talking to each other, then both are dead later, with no obvious "the killer has overheard" conversations, I discount the entire scene as a red herring. Probably overthinking, but hey, it's a speculation board. Like your survivor rates, Nods.
Mystery Buff		#3722	[-]
Posts: 37 (06/16/09 5:14 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't watch "Gossip Girls," but that would irritate me with the eye color thing.
Mystery Buff		#3723	[-]
Posts: 38 (06/16/09 5:21 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Tiki Lou wrote: First off, I want to lament the amount of corpses unrecovered and left to rot. -Looks like Cousin Ben will never be found under that boat before the crabs pick his skeleton clean. -Lucy's pit will never be found. -Hunter's faceless body is still floating out to the Pacific -Did Abby and JD even take Uncle Marty's halves back with them? Or did they just scream and run off? -Richard was obviosly left on that tree trunk. I don't see them taking the time to take him down. -Cole was left to burn without a second thought -Poor Beth. I don't think anyone wants to squeeze into those crawlspaces again to retrieve her corpse. -Since Malcolm was the only one who knew where Booth was buried, good luck finding that. -Speaking of Malcolm, unless they have dental records, nobody even knew who that was in the furnace. And that brings me to my contribution to the "faked death" theory. The reason people seem to think Booth faked his death was the implausibility of bleeding to death from a flesh wound to the leg. A shot to the head? Of course A shot to the throat? Definitely A shot through the heart or stomach? No question A shot through the leg? doubtful If the killer wasn't the one who shot him, then I believe Booth went into shock and Malcolm mistakenly thought he was dead and buried him alive, thus killing him. Gruesome death I'm sure. But the only death that we as a viewing audience did not directly see and that the remaining wedding party could not identify the remains of... was Malcolm. Yes we saw him jerk and shuffle from the view from inside the furnace, but it very well could have been something else. Whatever... I know it's impossible but it nagged in the back of my head for a long time. Your Booth/Malcolm information is interesting. Also, how many random killings (not on the bingo board) are there now? Cousin Ben, the deputy at the jail, the minister. Anyone else? Cousin Ben's death is the most interesting at this point to me -- it was deliberate, and not just a pit to get someone. Someone didn't want him on the island. Why? Again, and for the risk of being flamed, maybe Cousin Ben isn't dead -- this is just some other random guy and Cousin Ben is running amok.
Mystery Buff		#3724	[-]
Posts: 39 (06/16/09 5:22 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Sorry! Mystery Buff is no computer genius. My contribution to Tiki Lou's post: Your Booth/Malcolm information is interesting. Also, how many random killings (not on the bingo board) are there now? Cousin Ben, the deputy at the jail, the minister. Anyone else? Cousin Ben's death is the most interesting at this point to me -- it was deliberate, and not just a pit to get someone. Someone didn't want him on the island. Why? Again, and for the risk of being flamed, maybe Cousin Ben isn't dead -- this is just some other random guy and Cousin Ben is running amok.
Drew B		#3725	[-]
Posts: 5724 (06/16/09 5:24 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think that would be a great "twist" IF they ever mentioned Cousin Ben. They would need to give us backstory and make it seem like he was missed on the island for it to be satisfying that he is still alive...
Mystery Buff		#3726	[-]
Posts: 40 (06/16/09 5:30 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well, I mention Ben again, because he was on Harper's Globe (which I should do a better job of keeping up with, instead of coming here). Robin (the girl from the newspaper in Episode 4 or so) is one of the people there. She met up with a dude named Brent and they were going to go from Harper's Island to the mainland for a romantic getaway. At a bar there, Ben (apparently drunk), knew Brent and they started drinking. Robin got mad and went back to Harper's Island. Then, there was a period of time where Robin couldn't find Brent. My original thought is that Ben killed Brent and put him on the bottom of the boat, thereby running amok on Harper's Island. However, several pages back someone (Coachocd?) mentioned that the killer (who has a diary on Harper's Globe) mentioned that he was going to kill Brent. Still...someone else, not Brent, could have been substituted as "Cousin Ben" with Ben's phone under the boat, and Ben is still wandering around. I only suggest Ben as a possible killer because early on, many people were wondering if that was Ben and I was surprised about the Robin video on Harper's Globe. He would fit the profile of "who the hell was that?"
Utopian		#3727	[-]
Posts: 5874 (06/16/09 5:31 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Once the killer is revealed, I hope they'll show how all the murders were committed. The set-ups and stuff.
Mystery Buff		#3728	[-]
Posts: 41 (06/16/09 5:34 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Tom2433 said: (credit to Naj who came up with the original "Mary who" concept on which this is based...) I don't watch much TV; what is this about? "Mary who?" Thought the post was hysterical. I was at work and read this. LOL
Mystery Buff		#3729	[-]
Posts: 42 (06/16/09 5:36 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Agree with you, Utopian.
LPMA		#3730	[-]
Posts: 4291 (06/16/09 5:58 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I find the Cousin Ben being the killer idea interesting, I just don't see why he would have to tie someone under the boat to pass as him since 1) noone actually found that yet and 2) all that was needed from him was a text message saying he wasn't coming. I like the twist for its "you were all fooled from the start" potential.
pjadedd		#3731	[-]
Posts: 9654 (06/16/09 6:00 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	While the Cousin Ben theory is good, I don't see the story being based solely around something that was on Harper's Globe, and not mentioned at all during the show. If you're only watching the show, there is pretty much 0% that you would think Cousin Ben had to do with anything. I also highly doubt the Booth/Malcolm thing because they showed Malcolm being attacked. Again, much like the idea that Booth faking his death in front of Malcolm only makes no sense, Malcolm faking something seems just as ridiculous. If Booth/Malcolm were in cahoots, then it would've made sense for Malcolm to return and say that Booth shot himself or was killed. Then, when he brings them back to where Booth "died," they notice the body is missing. This would go into "is Booth part of the killings?" or "is the killer taking the bodies?" And, with there being word that a scene was cut from Malcolm's death and it will be on the DVD release, I would highly doubt he's actually faking anything.
Mystery Buff		#3732	[-]
Posts: 43 (06/16/09 6:29 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I personally believe that both Booth and Malcolm are dead. I was pointing it out within the context of faking a death in "And then there were none." I know someone already mentioned it, but I would also like to know the deal with Uncle Marty with a bag of money and a gun. As the only living relative of JD's and Henry's, he would naturally come to the wedding, but why bring a bag of money and a gun? If it's all about Abby, why aren't more of her friends being killed? They seem to be more about Henry and Trish. Granted, Abby doesn't have any relatives other than her dad, but she would have known all the locals. She was close to Nikki, Kelly, Jimmy. She knew Shane, Maggie, the doctor, the deputies. Of these people, only Kelly is dead. Again, why? Early on, Kelly's death was discovered shortly after the time of her death. Currently, no one knows about Ben, or where Lucy/Gigi are. The minister, Richard, Hunter, and Uncle Marty were found a day or more after they were killed. The Booth/Malcolm stuff seems to be throwaway/fodder. Only now, when people know that there is a killer are the bodies discovered within a short amount of time (Beth, Katherine) or as they happen (Cole).
loveski		#3733	[-]
Posts: 1825 (06/16/09 6:30 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	There's an excellent sleuther at TWoP who has been right in the past based simply on clues, etc. Based on her/his research, there is one person who will definitely make it to the last episode because the actor/actress involved revealed in an interview that he/she never would have guessed the killer. That person makes it to the last episode/ultimate reveal (making that person either the killer or one of the people who survives long enough to film that scene). That person is: Spoiler [+] Cal.
Mystery Buff		#3734	[-]
Posts: 44 (06/16/09 6:47 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	That's interesting about Spoiler [+] Cal. One of my notes from Episode 3 is that there was a rather long shot/clue about the boat that Hunter was on from the Candlewick Inn. The brass plate said: Made for the Candlewick Inn, Mayfair, England. Right before the practical joke on Sully, Cal is watching Chloe do some yoga. Richard is with him and Richard asks Cal how he got a girl like that. Cal says he went to Cambridge, is a doctor, an "excellent" philatelist, and "of course, the English accent. I hope she doesn't meet a cooler British person." Richard says "Or any British person." Then Sully comes up to Chloe and Richard asks Cal, "isn't that the guy that left you hanging?" and Cal says "Yes, but he apologized." There's quite a bit of fun music at this point and the honey and feather joke follows.
cabanachat		#3735	[-]
Posts: 3103 (06/16/09 6:48 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	thanks for putting that in a spoiler.
Mystery Buff		#3736	[-]
Posts: 45 (06/16/09 6:50 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Crap! I pushed enter before I was finished. Spoiler [+] When Richard makes the comment about "or any British person", Cal looks at him and kind of nods his head. Although this actor is British, maybe he's American (Wakefield's son) and is pretending to be American. Later, Cal talks about his speciality of neuro-something-or-other, and that the sheriff is his first live patient in a long time. Hmmmmmmmmmm. Something's strange here.
Understandermant		#3737	[-]
Posts: 109 (06/16/09 6:55 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Ok: My new thought. Abby is a psychotic lunatic. The killer is either Henry or Jimmy. The reason being: They know she is a crazy and psychotic. But they love her, so they are "beating her to the kill", and killing whoever it is. So that: Jimmy can protect the one he loves, and Henry can protect his BFF
Tiki Lou		#3738	[-]
Posts: 506 (06/16/09 7:11 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't want to believe that either Maggie or Nikki is the killer. They've been so insignificant so far that unless they have an entire episode dedicated to their storyline, it'll be a huuuuuge WTF! But if they did get more story on them, that's proof that they are the killer right there... so fucked either way. I do understand that out of everyone, they've had the most time and non-screen time to commit them all, but it will still be a letdown if it isn't one of the main fleshed out characters. I'm hanging on to Cal as the killer. As people have mentioned before he has the medical knowledge to slice and dice, the wiry frame to fit in those crawlspaces, the girlfriend who loves serial killers, and smart enough to do it. As Chloe said, he always thinks of everything. Also, when Chloe pretends to drown and Cal is all frantic, he displayed a violent side when he almost drowned her. That thought has never left me. All my chips on the good doctor (until he dies) Last Edited By: Tiki Lou 06/16/09 7:17 PM. Edited 1 times.
bumlets1		#3739	[-]
Posts: 1410 (06/16/09 7:21 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Whoever the killer is, I hope that when they are explaining why they did it, somewhere the line "No Mr. Green, Communism is just a red herring." pops up.
Drew B		#3740	[-]
Posts: 5725 (06/16/09 7:27 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Tiki Lou wrote: I'm hanging on to Cal as the killer. As people have mentioned before he has the medical knowledge to slice and dice, the wiry frame to fit in those crawlspaces, the girlfriend who loves serial killers, and smart enough to do it. As Chloe said, he always thinks of everything. Also, when Chloe pretends to drown and Cal is all frantic, he displayed a violent side when he almost drowned her. That thought has never left me. All my chips on the good doctor (until he dies) IF this turns out to be the case, I just hope they have a damned good explanation for how he got away from Chloe/Beth/Sully long enough to take a detour inland to Cole Harkin's cabin, kill him, and still make it down to the marina in time to almost sail away (before changing his mind and staying for Madison's sake). I can buy the idea that Cal was able to get out of the trap for long enough to kill somebody (I don't recall if it was Lucy or Fain or both), but for the Cole Harkin murder, he doesn't seem to have been alone at all...

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