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03/21/12 03:21 PM

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I hope this turns into a legitimate season rather than some 8 week event, and hopefully there's more than 10 girls since I think this would be a good time to do an All-Stars season. It'd be a fun season; I actually am pretty okay with that top 10 although I still do not really get all the hype behind Pandora Boxx besides her being nice. To me, she was just sort of a background presence who stumbled into the final 5. I'd prefer someone like Mariah opposed to her but whatever. Also, replace Jessica Wild for Tatianna and I'm perfectly fine with that top 10.

Willam is someone I'll miss but not somebody I'm going to repeatedly fawn over in her absence. She had amazing one-liners, a killer body, but she was missing a certain je ne sais quoi.

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RobVanStratus wrote:
Ugh I cannot stand all this William asskissing. Seriously if that hag hadn't posted here before the season, no one would be fawning over him as much as everyone is.

I feel bad for all the queens that left before William, especially Jiggly since she lost to her last week and then this week William was DQ'd.

William was garbage and never that funny or entertaining one bit. She's just as annoying as fucking PeePee is.

This season has been fantastic but it needs to end with PeePee in 5th, Dida in 4th, Chad in 3rd, Sharon taking 2nd, and Latrice winning it all <3

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03/21/12 06:02 PM

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SuperDav wrote:

You'd be surprised! Phi Phi has more facebook "phans"(ughhhhhh) than anyone from her season but Sharon.

And, WTF at that schedule---no Untucked for the finale? They had one the last two years, right?

Yeah, they only planned for 11 episodes of Untucked, sadly. It was in the initial season 4 press releases.

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The finale has already been filmed, so I don't think that we're getting a live vote. (The outfit with Ru in the bumblebee-patterned dress was the finale outfit) That is also the episode where she says in previews "We're breaking all of the rules." for some reason. Anyone think there could be a two-winner deal?

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03/21/12 06:14 PM

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I think PhiPhi acts the way she does because she thinks, and with good reason given past seasons, that the surefire way to guarantee a LOT of camera time on this show and force your way into becoming a leading character of the season is to always be the center of the drama, and if you're inherently uninteresting and unsophisticated like she is, you just have to instigate all the drama and create fireworks no matter how ridiculous it makes you look. Shangela knew this, and camera whored her way into the center of every untucked episode by exploiting this. PhiPhi is just doing the same. I'm sure in her mind it's better to be reviled and hated passionately than to have the audience respect and like you, knowing the latter doesn't get you anywhere near as much camera time and that the audience would end up feeling ambivalence toward her anyway cause she's just not that interesting, especially in comparison to her fellow contestants.

We all know that the producers on all these shows depend on personalities like hers to keep the drama alive, and it's no coincidence that polarizing characters like her always seem to make it further in competition shows. I think it's a strategy for mediocre contestants who know their only shot in making it as far as possible is to have production fighting for them to stay. PhiPhi doesn't give a shit if she's remembered for being a dumb c.unt, all she cares about is that she's remembered. Period. People like Omarosa have made a career out of doing this, so I don't know why anyone's surprised. PhiPhi sucks, but she knows how to work the system.

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mds1978ca wrote:
I think PhiPhi acts the way she does because she thinks, and with good reason given past seasons, that the surefire way to guarantee a LOT of camera time on this show and force your way into becoming a leading character of the season is to always be the center of the drama, and if you're inherently uninteresting and unsophisticated like she is, you just have to instigate all the drama and create fireworks no matter how ridiculous it makes you look. Shangela knew this, and camera whored her way into the center of every untucked episode by exploiting this. PhiPhi is just doing the same. I'm sure in her mind it's better to be reviled and hated passionately than to have the audience respect and like you, knowing the latter doesn't get you anywhere near as much camera time and that the audience would end up feeling ambivalence toward her anyway cause she's just not that interesting, especially in comparison to her fellow contestants.

We all know that the producers on all these shows depend on personalities like hers to keep the drama alive, and it's no coincidence that polarizing characters like her always seem to make it further in competition shows. I think it's a strategy for mediocre contestants who know their only shot in making it as far as possible is to have production fighting for them to stay. PhiPhi doesn't give a shit if she's remembered for being a dumb c.unt, all she cares about is that she's remembered. Period. People like Omarosa have made a career out of doing this, so I don't know why anyone's surprised. PhiPhi sucks, but she knows how to work the system.

Pandora Boxx played it the opposite, and the audience adores her, as evidenced by the voting for All-Stars.

PeePee is just trash. There's no motivation behind her behavior. She's too stupid to think of something like that. She's just trash. That's who she is.

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03/21/12 10:00 PM

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Official Willam fanpage- not that other sh*tty one.

HINT 2 my disqualification @RuPaulsDragRace .

Gotta vote if u want me 2 spill why else @NNN Awards

http://t.co/0dr8w7Dm http://t.co/imLNPK5Z

So who is Fletcher? Did Willam sleep with someone associated with RuPaul or with the show?

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OMG I must vote for her so I find out why she was kicked off!!! GO VOTE EVERYONE SO WE KNOW!!!!!!!

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03/22/12 12:52 AM

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Oh LAwd. And I agree that I have only started to truly appreciate Willam in the past several weeks. Still hater her look and her stubble, though, even though she is smaht smaht smaht.

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I agree with Seagay and with cg...Willam is one smart drag queen. We were watching last week and my partner asked me why Willam was my favorite and that was one of the first things I said "...and he's smart, surrounded by a bunch of dummies." I also think Sharon is very witty, as well.

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03/22/12 01:00 AM

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Looking at the All Stars poll is pretty fun when you have nothing to do all day at work. There seem to be 5 major "groups" that keep shuffling around. I think the fairest way to do things would be to pick 2 people from each group and call it a day.

Group 1)
Sharron + Pandora are obviouslly battling it out for the win. Everytime you refresh the page they have more votes. I'm guessing they're going to break 15k votes before it's over.

Group 2) Raven - Yara Sofia, which also, horrifyingly enough includes Mimi Imhardlysecond. Everyone in this group is between 5700-6000 votes and honestly, a well-planned overnight boost could launch any of them to at least third place. That's 7 girls. However, Nina and Raven have been increasing their vote count at a much slower rate than some of the other girls have been gaining so it will be interesting to see if someone gets up there.

Group 3) Latrice/Shangela - Raja/Willam. Willam is slightly too little to be in this ballpark but due to the recent surge I'd say she'll end up in this group by the end. Ranging from about 2000 to 3500 (Latrice actually has 3700) and 11 girls all within a major gap of each other.

Group 4) Tammie Brown, Delta Work, Chad Micheals. Ranging from 1100-1500. Other than the race between Sharron and Pandora, this is probably the tightest gap. Any of these girls also have the potential to move into group 3, but anything past that isn't realistic given the timeline.

Group 5) The rest. 100-800. Based on the fact that I've been voting for Mariah every day since this opened, up until Willam got eliminated on a winning challenge with no explanation (I switched my loyalty. When it's right, it's right) I can say that Mariah's near the top with Princess and her vote count has only increased about 50 in the last 4 or 5 days. That means like, 10 loyal fans are probably voting for each contestant in this group. with 23 girls.

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03/22/12 01:21 AM

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Also, I think Willam should have been more interesting with the clue.

http://www.urbandictionar...define.php?term=fletcher

Possibility one:
the fletcher: noun, verb. (phlet ~ cher)

1. to perform a fletcher, you must sleep with a girl the night you meet her at HER PLACE, this is step one (the most important step). second, the girl must either fall asleep, or pass out (if drinking is involved, which it probably is). third, you have to leave in the middle of the night, and, finally, fourth, you have to leave a small amount of money on her dresser and/or nightstand (a $5 bill is preferred).

If you take it that the cabbage patch doll is him and he's admitting to being a Fletcher, then that basically means that Willam's been sneaking out each night. Who knows if that had anything to do with being sick, but I think it's a clear indication that someone needed to party a biiiiit too much. I'd speculate based on the hint that he got caught coming back into the hotel. When he said, "I've been upfront with them about it since the beginning" and mentioning that he'd done it more than once would fit the pattern. Also, Chad saying "it's going to make us look bad" could mean that everyone's going to think they're not ~*~PrOfEsSiOnAl~*. I'm guessing that the rules about leaving the hotel aren't that strict, but if they saw him pushing the boundaries a biiiit too far, like bringing someone back or something then that's when they were like "the jig is uppp".

Also, Willam's married and lives right next to the hotel. This could also mean she just decided to crash at home instead of staying in a scumbag motel. Kind of anti climactic. I bet Willam's loving the wild allegations.

2.An angry blowharded asshole who often loses his temper and screams at co-workers at his place of employment.
Don would always lose his cool and scream at the other supervisors when he was having a bad day. Fucking Fletcher!

Physically or verbally abused a cast or crew member on more than one occasion. I think this is less likely, but not impossible.

also, I know this is just Willam's strategy to remain one of the most Google'd names on the internet right now (a la Angelea), but I love Willam now and I'll totally play this twisted game with you, Mister Sister. Loving it.

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I definitely could see him sneaking out and sleeping at his own place which would give him an unfair advantage over the other queens sleeping in a lousy hotel bed. But while I could see the other queens being furious about it I can't really see them saying things like "that is unprofessional and it is going to get us all in trouble or it reflects on us".

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http://worldofwonder.net/...li-addresses-the-rumors/ (Potentially NSFW due to a mostly naked Willam picture)

Willam talks about what isn't the reason why which is basically everything that people have speculated.

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SweetBabyJosie

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well, fuck.

lets just skip to the reunion. We all know how the rest of the season's gonna play out anyway, with room for maybe 1 surprise.

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The Void's link is NSFW.

FYI.

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I think I pin-pointed what is so irksome about Phi to me. She has no speedbump when it comes to throwing shade about others but she seems to refuse admission that she has any room for improvement b/c she is perfection on a stick. Jiggly did way too much of the self deprecation but Phi's lack of self reflective humor shows she will always be a teeny butterfly in a world full of glorious monarchs. Confidence isn't having the "OMG I am THE SHIT" attitude all the time and laughing at others when they fail. Which is why Latrice has really found a place in my snuggle place. She can cut loose and is not as campy as Delta Work or Sharon but she exudes REALNESS and TRIUMPH. Plus she looks like a beautiful FIERCE woman when she is decked.

I have never found Phi attractive. AT ALL. She truly does look like a tired ass showgirl At least Kenya was radiant.

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SweetBabyJosie wrote:
Looking at the All Stars poll is pretty fun when you have nothing to do all day at work. There seem to be 5 major "groups" that keep shuffling around. I think the fairest way to do things would be to pick 2 people from each group and call it a day.

I love that we are analyzing these results like straight men pour over baseball scores.

I'm voting every day myself.

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For Pandora Boxx fans, and there are many of us, she had a really interesting column in Huffington Post today:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pandora-boxx/me-myself-her_b_1360805.html?ref=gay-voices&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008

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Pseudo Propaganda wrote:
I definitely could see him sneaking out and sleeping at his own place which would give him an unfair advantage over the other queens sleeping in a lousy hotel bed. But while I could see the other queens being furious about it I can't really see them saying things like "that is unprofessional and it is going to get us all in trouble or it reflects on us".

I believe Chad said that because she considers herself to be a "professional," or, a granny buzzkill with a permanent stick up her rear.

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