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Episode 14 -- Vid caps, mpegs and useful links

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OkieLoki	Re: "Milk" Commercial	#81	[-]
Posts: 7641 05/02/01 08:31 PM Not even supposed to be here today More Recent Posts	I'm not ignoring you guys... Been spending the last hour and a half trying to get caps. Getting damned frustrated...
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final3	it is okay	#82	[-]
Posts: 1552 05/02/01 08:54 PM More Recent Posts	, you are doing a great job okie, keep up the great work!!!
Aone	Re: "Milk" Commercial	#83	[-]
Posts: 129 05/02/01 09:10 PM More Recent Posts	stlous, Glad it worked, I'm waiting on those caps and wanna see where you're going. Notice Keith is looking askance at the other two, while they are both looking direct on? Probably means nothing, but sure looks creepy like he is suspicious of the two of them.
Aone	Cap person help me out	#84	[-]
Posts: 129 05/02/01 09:29 PM More Recent Posts	I was re-watching the CBS preview and I noticed that right after the turn out the lights section... one of those flame type frames comes up and I swear it has what looks like a state outline within the flames, it even looks kinda like texas but at a reversed angle or something. I can't seem to capture to look closer -can anyone help out?
Aone	Re: Cap person help me out	#85	[-]
Posts: 129 05/02/01 09:46 PM More Recent Posts	Nevermind on above, I finally was able to stop on the exact frame and I think its Australia rather than a reversed Texas... ah well, one always hopes!
stlousanta	Re: "Milk" Commercial	#86	[-]
Posts: 527 05/02/01 09:50 PM More Recent Posts	Okie, take your time. I'm in no rush. Aone, the only vid-cap so far that has not been traced to a previous episode are the ones by the river with a short waterfall (not that towering Herbert Falls, for sure). Seems there is an area to the right that could be a very muddy area. Possibly used for immersion in mud as a ritualistic prelude to the IC. We had the ritual of mud and walking across coals in S1 before "Hands on Idol" so I've been thinking about what could precede the S2 final IC. In Aborigine myths, there is mud (Ancestors formed landscape features by standing from flat landscape; where mud landed, landscape features were formed) used in rituals as well as bark art (used as offerings in some of their rituals. Then there are walkabouts to revisit ancestral features. Seemed to fit a "Fallen Comrades" IC. So I got a little excited by the falls vid-cap, the CBS preview today with bark art, and the milk poster. Don't think it's going to be foreshadowing of the winner by any stretch, but it all seems to fit a "look-back" at the tribe's ancestors.
Aone	Re: "Milk" Commercial	#87	[-]
Posts: 129 05/02/01 09:56 PM More Recent Posts	stlous, thanks for the update, I see where you're going and it makes sense with what you say about a fallen comrades. I'll buy it! Great insight!
Aone	Re: "Milk" Commercial	#88	[-]
Posts: 129 05/02/01 10:14 PM More Recent Posts	stlous, got this description in Encarta that I thought may interest you in your ponderings, I am particularly interested in the fact that they mention coming from earth and revisiting/reliving the journey so to speak... Dreaming, The, or Dream Time in Australian Aboriginal mythology (see Aborigines), the period of creation in which the known landscape took shape and all life had its source. The Dreaming represents a distant mythic period in which Wondjina (ancestral spirits) traveled across Australia, establishing the essential fabric of life and depositing the spirits of unborn children. The Wondjina were born from the earth, and their journeys during The Dreaming are recorded in the oral traditions of the Aboriginal peoples of different regions of Australia with great attention to local geographical detail and specific events. After passing on to humans the knowledge necessary for survival and social living, the Wondjina disappeared back into the earth or, according to other traditions, married into humankind. The waterholes they created on their wanderings later became sacred sites. The Dreaming is also considered to be a part of the present. It can be reentered through rituals using totems, in which the participants themselves become the Wondjina and retrace their journeys, reliving the so-called strong time of creation. "Dreaming, The," Microsoft® Encarta® Encyclopedia 99. © 1993-1998 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
wackadoodle1	Dream Time? Totem ceremony?	#89	[-]
Posts: 132 05/02/01 10:24 PM More Recent Posts	This is sooo good. I think that MB is so into the "lore" that this is a definate possibility. The "totem" (endurance) the "reflection" (fallen commrades). It's a two-fer! But how would it play out? In two parts? That can't happen since someone would be losing before the second part. Or they answer questions while trying to keep their hands on the totem? Forgive me folks...I'm trying to brainstorm & am very tired. Stephie
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stlousanta	Re: Dream Time? Totem ceremony?	#90	[-]
Posts: 527 05/02/01 10:50 PM More Recent Posts	Still think it is like "Fallen Comrades" with a lot of preparation rituals ahead of the actual IC. Preparation of their totem in bark art; dunking in mud; walkabout to the TC where they will actually do the IC that will be similar to "Fallen Comrades". Will take up a lot of time and actually be interesting. good stuff, Aone. LOL, think they'll show up in TC covered in mud? That should be fun....
bluegun	Re: Dream Time? Totem ceremony?	#91	[-]
Posts: 93 05/02/01 10:51 PM More Recent Posts	Wow.. great stuff here.... Love the photo of the 3 in the mud... Makes so much sense to me... Tina in middle, knows Colbster will choose Keith in F2. Colbster knows Tina will choose Keith in F2. Two of the most strong willed people in the world will NEVER give up. They want the $$$. (IMHO, i think Colby will give up first - tainted by the "mother" motif) In true Keith fashion, "what's going on here?" Great find!!!
stlousanta	Re: Dream Time? Totem ceremony?	#92	[-]
Posts: 527 05/02/01 11:11 PM More Recent Posts	Jeesh...I'm going to head over to the Immunity Challenge thread and post some ideas on this.
OkieLoki	Re: Episode 14 -- Vid caps, mpegs and useful links	#93	[-]
Posts: 7641 05/02/01 11:28 PM Not even supposed to be here today More Recent Posts	Dammit, I've exhausted my bag of tricks and came up empty on the caps. If I come up with something, I'll post them, but don't expect them. At least now I can redirect my attention to contributing to the excellent trains of thought you guys have going.
Aone	Re: Dream Time? Totem ceremony?	#94	[-]
Posts: 129 05/02/01 11:43 PM More Recent Posts	stlous, if they aren't immersed in mud when they arrive at TC, I'm sure they will be by the end if ya know what I mean lol Anyway, I saw your thread in IC and great thoughts. I did some web reading and this dreaming thing definitely links the past to the present in aboriginal thinking - they believe the past is the present and the future and revisit it often (walkabouts) through use of totems and symbols and stories. I wholeheartedly agree that this is a great line of thinking!
Aone	Re: Episode 14 -- Vid caps, mpegs and useful links	#95	[-]
Posts: 129 05/02/01 11:44 PM More Recent Posts	Thanks for trying, Okie!
stlousanta	Re: Episode 14 -- Vid caps, mpegs and useful links	#96	[-]
Posts: 527 05/02/01 11:46 PM More Recent Posts	Ditto from me, Okie.
crocophile	Re: Episode 14 -- Vid caps, mpegs and useful links	#97	[-]
Posts: 14093 05/03/01 07:53 AM MESS with me, I'll MESS with you More Recent Posts	Someone on the Spoiler Board has some vid caps here's the link: www.geocities.com/pinkroz...eview.html The Kayak's just might be part of the walkabout.
MissAng	Link to USA Today Article	#98	[-]
Posts: 4054 05/03/01 08:23 AM Registered user More Recent Posts	Hi everyone. Here is the url to the USA Today article about Survivor and the final 3. www.usatoday.com/life/photo.html I'm not sure how to post that as a link sorry. Two points of interest I found were the fact that Les Moonves and two other CBS executives do know the outcome according to MB. Personally, I take everything MB says with doubt though so you all can decide for yourself. Second is the part that mentions survivorsucks.com being the best place for message boards. Think EBT will get more visitors though because of the quotes and focus of them in the article. Just a heads up for moderators should locking need to be done. Ok, fplo did post the link to USA Today on the thread called Early Show. Time for me to wake up and get my brain working!
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