Survivor Gabon Boot Spoilers (and speculation) all say Bob loses from day 1

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SurvivorFanGP		#2761	[-]
Posts: 9535 (11/24/08 9:00 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I highly doubt it'll be a Crystal/Susie/Sugar F3. It seems like Crystal/Ken's alliance goes beyond just "game", she's not turning on him. The most likely scenario is indeed an F5 of Fang, Matty/Susie and Ken/Crystal try to get Sugar's vote, she sides with Crystal/Ken, which alienates Susie for an F4 boot. I'd say Ken/Crystal are in the end for sure. But yeah, in an all-girl F3, Crystal has it won. I'd say she has Marcus, Charlie, Ken, Corinne, and maybe Randy. Susie would get Matty, Sugar getting Bob. Last Edited By: SurvivorFanGP 11/24/08 9:08 PM. Edited 1 times.
sunflower101		#2762	[-]
Posts: 3950 (11/24/08 9:02 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	mtj1282 wrote: buddttv: With who's left, it's gonna be interesting. You look at the original 18 and you think of somebody like Marcus who's gonna win this game or you think of somebody like Dan or Matty or Jacquie. None of them are left. I'd love to see Corinne go all the way but I'd love to see Corinne voted out next so I can see her at Ponderosa. I don't know. I mean, Crystal holds the record for losing challenges. In all of Survivor, she's lost more than anyone in 17 seasons. How can you vote for her? It's gonna be tough. I do think Kenny is going to win, but Randy could have misspoken and just meant Dan and Jacquie.
chad6		#2763	[-]
Posts: 2049 (11/24/08 9:15 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SurvivorFanGP wrote: I highly doubt it'll be a Crystal/Susie/Sugar F3. It seems like Crystal/Ken's alliance goes beyond just "game", she's not turning on him. There are many ways that Crystal can get to the end without her turning on him. 1. Final four S/S/C/K: S/S vote against Ken and he loses in a tiebreaker 2. Final five S/S/C/K (M or B): Sugar joins with Susie and Matty to vote out Ken. Or S/S/B get together and vote out Ken.
SurvivorFanGP		#2764	[-]
Posts: 9537 (11/24/08 9:31 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	True, but with Micronesia which also had a lack of spoilers (apart from SF's clues that nailed everything), what helped a lot figure out the outcome was the editing towards the Parvati/Cirie/Amanda alliance. We've seen nothing from Susie/Matty considering they apparently have an alliance. As crazy as this season has been, I doubt "editing" will be thrown out the window leaving an all-girls F3. Yeah, Marcus got booted, and all that jazz, but he wasn't the only one with a "winner" edit. If next episode there's suddenly all these hidden alliances being brought up like Matty/Susie, Matty/Susie/Sugar, or the women realizing they can't beat the boys, then it could happen.
crzypunk2004		#2765	[-]
Posts: 3840 (11/24/08 10:52 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	It seems like we haven't been shown any close alliance except for Kenny/Crystal.
swim4life227		#2766	[-]
Posts: 5189 (11/25/08 1:56 AM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I guess what you guys are saying does make some sense. However, I'm still doubting the all female final 3. Last season with the female final 4, they consitantly foreshadowed that being the ending. As of yet, we have no indication that the girls are even tight. I still think Kenny wins. Sad, but true. Jeff said we were suppose to REALLY LIKE THE FINALISTS! I can see people liking Sugar, but like Susie and Crystal? I don't think people would really like that. Then again, those two are probably in the most likely final 3 (Susie,Ken,Crystal). So who knows? I think it's a probably scenario that I won't throw out. I just sadly don't see it happening. I think they would make a bigger deal about an all female final 3. Well it already happened once so maybe not.
MJSLawrence		#2767	[-]
Posts: 1817 (11/25/08 8:39 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SurvivorFanGP wrote: I highly doubt it'll be a Crystal/Susie/Sugar F3. It seems like Crystal/Ken's alliance goes beyond just "game", she's not turning on him. The most likely scenario is indeed an F5 of Fang, Matty/Susie and Ken/Crystal try to get Sugar's vote, she sides with Crystal/Ken, which alienates Susie for an F4 boot. I'd say Ken/Crystal are in the end for sure. But yeah, in an all-girl F3, Crystal has it won. I'd say she has Marcus, Charlie, Ken, Corinne, and maybe Randy. Susie would get Matty, Sugar getting Bob. Crystal may make her first rational move and take him out at the end, because she's also very close with Susie...she could be convinced...maybe he lets that cockiness out with Crystal one too many times and gets his "Go home. Forgit you" vote from her...Sugar may also use the idol and take him out somehow...who the hell knows...I really hope for the all girl final and that Sugar can talk her way in to the money...she's got a fighting chance and made enough moves and choices in the game to sell herself...
megabitch		#2768	[-]
Posts: 13 (11/25/08 12:54 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Crystal may make her first rational move and take him out at the end, because she's also very close with Susie...she could be convinced...maybe he lets that cockiness out with Crystal one too many times and gets his "Go home. Forgit you" vote from her...Sugar may also use the idol and take him out somehow...who the hell knows...I really hope for the all girl final and that Sugar can talk her way in to the money...she's got a fighting chance and made enough moves and choices in the game to sell herself... I usually don't say much because I just enjoy reading everyone's opinions... but I'm wondering what irrational moves has Crystal made up until this point? She's been outspoken when people piss her off which could potentially alienate jury members, though I doubt anyone would hold it against her other than Randy and maybe Corrine because she'll be bitter. Anyone else who wouldn't vote for her to win would have other reasons. Everything her and Ken have done up until now has been strategically to simply keep themselves in the running. I understand they haven't played perfectly by any means, but I think people forget that being apart of Fang they had dug a huge hole to get out of. Unlike Kota they didn't have the benefit of trying to make end game plans. They've had to take whatever few opportunities given to take control (some of those opportunities did come by luck). I just think saying taking out Ken would be her first rational move is not an accurate statement. When she has barely hung in there several times only to make a comeback... I'd say the moves she's made have been as rational as they could be lol.
roxbury123		#2769	[-]
Posts: 371 (11/25/08 1:00 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Maybe Crystal/Kenny turn out like Earl/YaoMan. Crystal knows nobody can beat Kenny in the finals and boots him in 4th place.
MultiGeminii		#2770	[-]
Posts: 1236 (11/25/08 1:04 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	How quickly ppl forget that Crystal was the one who really engineered Marcus's boot. Was that irrational too? She was supposed to accept 6th in the Onion alliance? Of course not. I love how people think Crystal, Susie, and Ken aren't playing the game well just because they aren't making the moves that advance their personal favorites. That's onion mentality, and look where they are now.
Manila ESQ		#2771	[-]
Posts: 127 (11/25/08 1:23 PM) Osten Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	crzypunk2004 wrote: It seems like we haven't been shown any close alliance except for Kenny/Crystal. The cookie given by Sugar to Matty may be more than just a cookie. They may have an alliance of 2 as well.
JFerrero		#2772	[-]
Posts: 33 (11/25/08 2:21 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	In one of Randy's interviews, he talks about how he didn't know Matty was campaigning to get Bob out and he didn't know Matty had previously aligned with Ace. Since Randy and Matty seemed to be friends, didn't they talk about the game at the Ponderosa? Maybe Matty is the F4 boot and they didn't have much time to talk.
Oowatanite		#2773	[-]
Posts: 6413 (11/25/08 2:23 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	chad6 wrote: Really? Aside from Kelly's friends on facebook I haven't heard of any. Why can't people seem to predict anything then? That's been the only spoiler this season. There haven't been "tonnes of spoilers". Maybe Kirblar is thinking of the "tonnes of speculation" this season.
JFerrero		#2774	[-]
Posts: 34 (11/25/08 2:37 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If it's an all female F3, I can't see anyone winning except Crystal. Based on the edit so far (Susie can't win- she has no airtime), the jury members interviews (Sugar can't win, they all think her game is weak), Crystal would have this thing won, hands down. Not sure who will engineer Ken and Matty's ousting- if it's Sugar or Susie, I will give them credit. But so far Sugar's been entertaining but useless as far as gameplay. And Susie has been a non-entity.
SurvivorFanGP		#2775	[-]
Posts: 9539 (11/25/08 2:45 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	MJSLawrence wrote: SurvivorFanGP wrote: I highly doubt it'll be a Crystal/Susie/Sugar F3. It seems like Crystal/Ken's alliance goes beyond just "game", she's not turning on him. The most likely scenario is indeed an F5 of Fang, Matty/Susie and Ken/Crystal try to get Sugar's vote, she sides with Crystal/Ken, which alienates Susie for an F4 boot. I'd say Ken/Crystal are in the end for sure. But yeah, in an all-girl F3, Crystal has it won. I'd say she has Marcus, Charlie, Ken, Corinne, and maybe Randy. Susie would get Matty, Sugar getting Bob. Crystal may make her first rational move and take him out at the end, because she's also very close with Susie...she could be convinced...maybe he lets that cockiness out with Crystal one too many times and gets his "Go home. Forgit you" vote from her...Sugar may also use the idol and take him out somehow...who the hell knows...I really hope for the all girl final and that Sugar can talk her way in to the money...she's got a fighting chance and made enough moves and choices in the game to sell herself... True, I wouldn't be surprised if Ken just wins immunity though. Out of those four, he likely has the best shot at winning it.
SwineForkbeard		#2776	[-]
Posts: 1891 (11/25/08 2:49 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	That's what I was thinking. Because it will really be sad if Ken doesn't win immunity and the three women are too stupid and divided to get rid of him. It will be like Todd winning all over again.
toomanynachos16		#2777	[-]
Posts: 343 (11/25/08 3:43 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I guess I'm the only one who feels like Bob is getting the winner's edit this year... My humble predictions for the rest of this year: 7. Corinne 6. Susie 5. Matty 4. Ken 3. Sugar 2. Crystal 1. Bob
The Very Insane Shark		#2778	[-]
Posts: 4007 (11/25/08 4:18 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I guess I'm the only one who feels like Bob is getting the winner's edit this year... Yes.
BillGuido		#2779	[-]
Posts: 137 (11/25/08 4:57 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Crystal has played a very good game so far. As has Ken. As has Sugar. As has Susie.
kenc333		#2780	[-]
Posts: 4995 (11/25/08 6:56 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	In a season of weird edits, and edgic excuses, I'm still thinking that the editors aren't gonna hand us an obvious winner, but not an obscure one either... I'm still believing that somehow Crystal wins, and then edgic will come up with an excuse to explain it =)

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