Jonathan got hosed by that quack "Doctor".

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victalac		#21	[-]
Posts: 752 (03/16/08 9:14 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	And another thing- notice Jeffy looking on and not saying much? He went to medical school and knew the babe Doc was full of shit, but he didn't want her to look bad. I didn't hear Jeffy jump in there with a "Yeah, it looks bad!" or "Hey Jonathan, you might lose your leg!" If it was really bad, Jeffy would have yanked Jonathan out himself. Typical garbage from a fresh Doc not sure of themselves- better to have Jonathan lose a chance at a million bucks than to risk relying on the facts to support a diagnosis.
teenytiny83		#22	[-]
Posts: 1479 (03/16/08 9:24 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Probst is the one who said Jonathan had to be looked at by the doctor. He said it right before the challenge started. Since when did Probst become a doctor though? If he had told JC how bad it was, he would have laughed his ass off. You know how silly that sounds?? Jon didnt take him seriously as a host. You really think he is going to let him treat his leg? Come on. Get real. This show has been on long time. They arent going to send someone in who doesnt know what they are doing. Jonathan needed a real doctor to tell him how bad it was. He wasnt going out otherwise. I bet that scene was alot longer than what we saw too.Editing takes out alot. Probst even said Jon tried to talk them into letting him stay. Last Edited By: teenytiny83 03/16/08 9:36 AM. Edited 1 times.
victalac		#23	[-]
Posts: 753 (03/16/08 9:40 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm waiting for temp and white count report.
dapperdan	Pic of knee	#24	[-]
Posts: 24 (03/16/08 1:03 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite
Seyz		#25	[-]
Posts: 145 (03/16/08 1:20 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	To me it looked more like an abscess. I think the "IV Antibiotics" line was actually out of line. what it needed was an Incision and Drainage. Cut it Open let the pus drain. He didn't need a hospital for that strictly speaking. Just needs a scalpel, some lidocaine and some gauze and a doctor to check up on him every day. Granted, out in the wild, it would probably be more prone to reinfection and not heal as well. Basically the survivor "babe" doctor was taking the safest route. Hey Even survivor doctors can get sued!
platinumtlc		#26	[-]
Posts: 2003 (03/16/08 1:39 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I love all the doctors here acting as if the editors showed us EVERYTHING that happened or that they were actually there in person. Yes, we're all like House and we can diagnose thousands of miles away with limited information~!
SuperJude		#27	[-]
Posts: 9913 (03/16/08 1:47 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Thank you Jonathan for clarifying. He had 8 initial stitches, then 40+ after that. Hardly sounds minor. victalac, there is this thing called "editing" where they take raw footage of everything they filmed and cut it down to what is pertinent within the confines of time limitations. Just going out on a limb here but it's possible they didn't actually air all the footage between the end of the challenge and him leaving? -SJ™
Riliss		#28	[-]
Posts: 3411 (03/16/08 1:49 PM) Ugly on the inside Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! editing is a dirty lie, like global warmng
PagongSchlong		#29	[-]
Posts: 2166 (03/16/08 1:53 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SuperJude wrote: Thank you Jonathan for clarifying. He had 8 initial stitches, then 40+ after that. Hardly sounds minor. victalac, there is this thing called "editing" where they take raw footage of everything they filmed and cut it down to what is pertinent within the confines of time limitations. Just going out on a limb here but it's possible they didn't actually air all the footage between the end of the challenge and him leaving? -SJ™ Once again, SJ proves why he is the Sucks Winner Winner Turkey Dinner when it comes to sarcasm! LOL
teenytiny83		#30	[-]
Posts: 1481 (03/16/08 2:57 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If they had just drained his leg. The infection would still be there. What happens when they have the next challenge and its physical? I cringe at the thought. Jon could have messed it up even more. There was no way that was getting better unless they took him out. It would have only gotten worse. Once the infection set in he was done.
platinumtlc		#31	[-]
Posts: 2006 (03/16/08 2:57 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	They should have let him stay in then!
AnomyBC		#32	[-]
Posts: 4343 (03/16/08 4:00 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think that crafty Alexis is behind this. She was the one who was strapped together with Jonathan in the challenge so she would have had the best opportunity to shove a pointy stick through his leg when no one was looking. And then if you look very carefully at the scene with Jonathan and the doctor you can see what appears to be a female hand slipping a note to the doctor. I think it was Alexis or Parvati who passed her the note and it probably said some to the effect of "Tell Jonathan he needs to leave the game. You will be rewarded. Please destroy this note. Your friend, P.A.N." Oh, I should mention that despite what she told Jonathan (in the bonus clip) I think Alexis (and Natalie) have a secret alliance with Parvati. There's no way the 3 of them aren't behind this!
oncebittentwice		#33	[-]
Posts: 4517 (03/16/08 7:15 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I guessing none of the naysayers have actually had an abscess... I would have thought that by the time a person has a temp and WBC issues the infection is severe enough to be life threatening. What are victalacs medical credentials btw? Last Edited By: oncebittentwice 03/16/08 7:17 PM. Edited 1 times.
dapperdan	Pic of original treatment	#34	[-]
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victalac		#35	[-]
Posts: 755 (03/16/08 8:47 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Is DapperDan Jonathan? What about that temp and wbc? She took a million bucks away from you, dude!
Phuz1		#36	[-]
Posts: 2175 (03/16/08 10:02 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Would anybody else have liked to see that sucka lanced on camera? Pustastic!
QuizGuy66		#37	[-]
Posts: 1946 (03/16/08 10:42 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	wonders if vic was a consultant on the Terry Schiavo case First time I've looked at the Jonathan/Chet interview. Jonathan's body language during Chet's BS was priceless! -QG
Lost Cause		#38	[-]
Posts: 1 (03/16/08 11:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Additionally it might help to remember that they were in a very damp, infection prone environment. Not Jonathan's living room, or even the woods in the temperate United States. The fact that the wound wasn't responding to the anti-biotics was pretty huge considering that he would be expected to live in a primitive environment and to compete in challenges, etc. Or do a lot of Doctors where you live recommend that someone with a puss filled abscess not responding to antibiotics return to living in the jungle, on a pile of sticks on a muddy beach, eating substandard food, and bathing in water that has to be boiled to drink?
ParvatiTheShallow		#39	[-]
Posts: 491 (03/17/08 12:32 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Victlalac. They never showed the Dr. taking his temperature, or his blood so you might be right in this being a freshman Dr.'s fatal mistake. Also, since he had stitches in his other leg (he mentioned this in his interviews) that healed well, he wasn't naturally prone to infection. They never showed the other leg and it healed up fine. The mistake this Dr. made (she was pretty is that why she was the Dr.?) was SEWING UP A PUNCTURE WOUND. NEVER WHAT YOU DO. It would have been better off open so it could be cleaned properly. Clearly they closed it up and sewed in something that caused the infection. Too bad they cost him the million by sewing him up and then taking him out of the game against his will. Poor Jonny Blue Eyes.
MJSLawrence		#40	[-]
Posts: 938 (03/17/08 12:55 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Having a wife and family he obviously couldn't take the risk after she said his life could be threatened...he knew his woman would've whooped his ass if he'd taken the risk...BLOWS!! That wench doctor left him with no choice!! Thank God he's okay and everything's healing well...but he said he had 40-some stitches post-op so it was obviously much more serious than it looked on the outside...if they'd left it open to heal and not sewn all the mud up inside...!!

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