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roxbury123 |
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Someone was talking about the opening confessional i know Amber DID not have a confessional in the opener she had only one right before the IC. Its going to be
interesting to see how Eliza outlasts Jonathan, Yao, and Ami. I also want to add, this season i think is going to suffer from not having a tribe swap.
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Oowatanite |
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I LUV TIJUANA wrote: X |
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chriscarteremail |
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That first episode didn't tell us much. I have no idea who is incharge of the alliances on the favorites side and we have no idea what the alliances are
one the fans side.
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PleasantMama |
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Considering the swiss cheese spoilers, couldn't Cirie go at the next TC and then have Eliza or Jonathan as the betrayer of all that is good? I suppose the
"Cirie? Who's Cirie? Cirie has no strategy" editing combined with the spoilers we do have point to her being the one who swings over to the
dark side though.
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chriscarteremail |
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Johnathan would have to go after Eliza.
The first 8 boots consist of: Fairplay, Mary, Yau-man, Tracy, MikeyB, Kathy, Ami, Chet. Then Jury Starts and we already know Eliza is the first boot. So that means Jonathan must go after. |
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IluvGoddessCirie |
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Right now everyone is assuming that Cirie will become King maker on the Fav's tribe. We have nothing on how long Cirie makes it into the game. How do we
know that when the Fav's next lose an immunity they don't just say "Hey lets get rid of the weakest link, which is Cirie?". She could be gone
next. I pray to God she won't be, but lets not forget that right now she has no alliance.
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crzypunk2004 |
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Because 3 out of the 4 of the JAYE alliance have been spoiled to leave early, cirie must be the person to cause that. They could get rid of cirie next and one
of the 4 flips. It's really just speculation at this point.
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roxbury123 |
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I really think this season is deff. going to have a "Julie" someone who is spoiled to go early and ends up going pretty far. Or at least i thought
Julie was originally planned as an early boot. I might be wrong on that one though. I really think someone is spoiled to go early will slide through. And
considering how many people have been said to go "pre-jury' in the last month there has got to be a few.
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Kirblar |
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I thought the Parvati voiceover was supposed to be ironic - She's talking about not playing the same game again, yet she's playing....the exact same
game.
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PleasantMama |
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One more thing, do we know that the jury phase begins at 12 instead of 10? Did Jeff bring this up or something? Because with only 9 confirmed to make the
jury it would seem 2 of Joel/Jonathan/Cirie could still not make it.
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reggierules |
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^^ Kirblar, I can't stand Parvati so this "defense" of her is not fanboy ramblings. But I agree with you that it could be taken as ironic. When
I first saw the episode and she had that voice over and mentioned something like "sure I'll flirt too" I thought it actually made her a bit more
dynamic considering that was followed with her "brilliant" idea of having the JAYE alliance voting for JFP. That, at least, is a slightly different
approach to her gameplay. So it's not completely ironic. Yes, she's still following in her slutty rely on men ways...but she's sorta showing another side. Kinda...Sorta. :P
That was my take at least. |
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WylDawg |
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IluvGoddessCirie wrote: I thought of this too. Let's face it, the fact that Coby didn't know she was there and the absence of weight loss spoilers make me think Cirie goes sooner than later. I think she joins the dark side next and they get YM booted because he's the weakest of the holy trinity. Then shortly after, it backfires on Cirie. Or for all we know, there won't even BE a war betwenn the 2 alliances at the faves' camp, maybe they'll just play it smart and boot off the physical liabilities. That being said, I'm pretty sure the 2 showmances stick together, so once a tribe swap comes, they have the numbers no matter what. Ami most likely finds herself outnumbered at the tribe swap and this is where she gets booted. Then once the merge comes it's everyone's guess since Probst says there's lots of blindsides. My guess though. Jonathan/Eliza and the 2 showmances are all favorites who make the merge. The fans are outnumbered but since Eliza/Jonathan are weary of the showmances maybe the n00bs use that angle to get Eliza booted. Then the two couples get blindesided when Jonathan teams up witrh the reminaing n00bs to outnumber them. So the final 5 consists of 4 n00bs and Jonathan Total wishful thinking, I know. |
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BtvsVamp |
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Well, it's not like there have been pictures of Cirie. So she could of very well lost a good amount of weight.
If Jonathan did flip there, I don't think he'd trade one F5 spot just for another with the Fans. He'd probably flip more then once. Though I suspect Cirie will be there also. Eliza is supposed to be the first juror, so she wouldn't even make the merge to get voted out by the fans and the couples. This means there has to be another favorite for it to be a 6-4 advantage or something by the favorites. |
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AmightyRo |
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roxbury123 wrote: You're right, Julie was supposed to get screwed over right before the merge (she did get screwed, but that was in the final 5!). I remember when Rory was voted out over Julie I was ecstatic, as I thought Julie was hot :p. |
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Coachocd |
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I would not assume Cirie sides with the shomances over the "masterminds". I would wish she did side with the "masterminds".
However, in Cook Islands we had 20 people and a major realignment on week 3. For all we know, the tribes are mixed up by then, the earliest possible "favorite" boot, since the spoilers all agree Mary goes next week. Also, how does this new Exile things work? Does the Exile miss the boot that episode and are therefore "safe"? Say one of the masterminds goes to Exile Island and that leaves 4-3 on the favorites tribe with her creating a tie. Do we know that firestarting is back as a the tiebreaker? There is an awful lot we don't know. Cherie's strategy in Panama was to be taken to the final 2 as the "goat", rather than being the one doing the taking. If they all are told it is a final 3 again, then teaming up with a showmance pair for a final 3 spot where she can be the goat may look attractive. Or, she could just be boneheaded and go with the wrong group. Certainly ASS was filled with once-great players who made unbelievably bad decisions all the way through the game, least of all not splitting Romber while they had the chance. We cannot assume that the great gamers before playing equally well now. Or, maybe they will. I'm willing to wait to see what happens before I cast any judgements on Cirie. If she had learned to start a fire better, she may very well have won S12. Unfortunately, aligning with the returnees I want to see do well may not be in her best interests, especially if she gets a final 3 offer. And that may not matter at all if the tribes are mixed up on week 3. |
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The Very Insane Shark |
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So Ami's a pre-jury boot now?
It really sounds like the P/J/A/O alliance dominates, unfortunately. |
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kenc333 |
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The Very Insane Shark wrote: And that would mean Cirie alligns with them and shouldn't that guarantee that Jonathan leaves earlier too? |
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Jedijake |
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Cirie would have no intention of sticking with the shomance crew all the way through. This whole "I'm just hanging out, have no idea what I'm
going to do" attitude that Cirie is displaying is total bull. This is Cirie we are talking about-she's knows this game inside and out and there is a
plan in everything she does.
I'd venture that Ami and Eliza are trounced after a switch and that Eliza, the first supposed juror, becomes a jury member before the official merge. I would not be surprised if both Ami and Eliza leave at the hands of the showmance crew. That sets off Jonathan and Cirie to take matters in their own hands WHEN the numbers support this. Here I am speculating, but sue me-nobody else is doing it anywhere. IF Eliza and Erik are jury members who leave at postions #12 and #11 respectively then they do so just like Rocky, Lisi, Brad, Jennie, and Rebecca-PRE-MERGE! The final 10 are: Jason, Ozzy, James, Amanda, Parvati, Joel, Cirie, Natalie, Jonathan, Alexis. Blunder=Jason (favs still together) Cirie, Jonathan, and the remaining recognize the showmance for who they are. They are wiped out in order from strongest to weakest. My belief is that the final 5 will be Alexis, Natalie, Joel, Cirie, and Jonathan. |
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LKMOSCAR |
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But I would think that the faves in that final 10 would see the threat in Joel, and they'd vote him out. THEN I would guess that Cirie and Jonathan would
make the switch.
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Jedijake |
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You'd need the numbers. There are 4 shomances. They need 5 to dislodge them.
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