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TexasBlues |
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$62,000 isn't much money in Los Angeles - it's decent, but decidedly middle-class money, most other place, but I wouldn't think that you'd be
living in the lap-of-luxury in LA.
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usuallylurk |
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The representative isn't "just" stating the facts: she had her baby with her and said that the typical writer drove a Toyota or Honda. If she
wants to just state the facts: leave the baby at home and don't mention the type of cars they drive. Pity the poor writers: they can't afford a Lexus
or Mercedes! What are the facts? The facts are: the writers want more... even if caterers, hair stylists and make-up artists lost their jobs and homes... the
writers want more.
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sugarrhill |
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^^^Yet you fail to blame the networks or the studios. You continue to place all the blame on the writers when it's the producers that won't return to
the bargaining table. The networks and the studios can continue to pay those salaries if they want to, but they choose not to do so. If the writers are to
blame for the strike than so are the producers.
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CasualWatcher9 |
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If the writers are to blame for the strike than so are the producers. Well Sugar, I can get on board with you on that. Strikes happen, no one side is pure, and positions are the nature of the beast. The sides bicker and a compromise is reached. But the reason the AMPTP walked away from the bargaining table was because the WGA, post strike, introduced the reality/animation "must be WGA" demand into the mix. The WGA decided not to compromise but to up the anty and the AMPTP said FUCK YOU. Again, positions are the nature of the beast. It was the WGA that escalated the demands. So don't put this all on the AMPTP. Oh, and I'm just randomly capitalizing and bolding words in this post because it seems to piss off Scree. |
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TexasBlues |
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You do realize that the reality/animation writers want to be part of the WGA, right? It isn't like the WGA is
trying to force them into something that they don't want.
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DouglassGirl |
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You do realize that the reality/animation writers want to be part of the WGA, right? It isn't like the WGA is trying to force them into something that they don't want.Fine. But then go through the procedure to unionize and join the WGA. But don't bring it up as part of strike negotiations. They are two separate issues. Bringing people into a union, without having an official vote to determine that the majority want to unionize doesn't seem kosher, imho. |
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CasualWatcher9 |
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TexasBlues wrote:
HA! And i want to be William Henry Gates III.
The reality/animation peeps are just pawns in this. They will get nothing. The WGA just threw them in for some sort of leverage. They will sacrifice them in a heartbeat for their own goals. Its a UNION! thing. Their UNION! Not yours. You suck to them. They don't care about you. You will be tossed under the bus as quickly as possible. So sad, so bad. |
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SurvivorArctic |
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God, you are an asshole.
Do you froth at the mouth when you spew the shit you type? I would bet good money (Canadian) that you do. And respond to this all you want, it ends up looking like 'blah blah blah blah blah blah blah' to me. |
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CasualWatcher9 |
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I so agree, SurvivorArctic,
Scree is an asshole! |
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CasualWatcher9 |
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Oh, and i wandered over to Alan Sepinwall's blog tonight to see that
Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert announce their intention to return to work on Jan. 7, strike or no strike. So I guess as long as US American Liberals decide to cross the picket line it is OK for all to do the same? Or maybe not? What do you think of this? If they hate President Bush, it is cool? If they don't it is bad? What do you think? |
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sunflower100 |
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sugarrhill wrote: this is just my opinion of what seems to be going on right now. i think part of the problem is both sides are waiting to see what happens with the lack of some new scripted shows. if a lot of the reality shows/game shows put on the air do well in the ratings, the networks will have more power when they are ready to make a deal, and the writers are hoping the ratings with some of the new reality program stink so they have more power when they go back to try make a new deal. so basically i think both sides are waiting to see how some of the new programs do, so they can hope to have the upper hand in striking a new deal. basically i think the networks believe they have the money, and new programming to wait out the writer's until they are desperate, and are ready to go back to work. the writer's are hoping that without scripted shows the ratings will be crap and the networks will be forced to give them what they want. i think once some of the new ratings come out, both sides will finally start trying to work out a deal |
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sunflower100 |
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Mega64 wrote: i agree they need to show stats of people who belong to the union, and are actually working right now. they need to exclude people, for example, that pay dues to the union, but might be in another line of work right now, or for whatever reason just didn't work this past year. i believe in the writer's guild and actor's guild people that have been writer's in the past can still keep up membership by paying dues. so some people's stats they are including in their revenue amounts might just be people that are maintaining their membership in case they ever decide to write a movie script again, or want to seek future employment for working on a tv show. |
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sunflower100 |
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CasualWatcher9 wrote: i believe to be a member of the writer's guild or the actor's guild is just that you have had to write or act in the industry before. a lot of people might not currently be working in the entertainment industry right, but want to maintain their membership in the union for whatever reason. fred thompson is a member of the actor's guild still, and he certainly isn't acting right now, sense he is running for president. |
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sunflower100 |
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usuallylurk wrote: i have a feeling a lot of those guests will be everyone running for president. i except to see a lot of appearances by alan keyes and dennis kuchinich (sp). think about it. who needs as much attention as they can get right now, and isn't tied to the entertainment industry. everyone running for president.
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sunflower100 |
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CasualWatcher9 wrote: well considering that iowa/new hampireshire primaries are in the first part of january, is anyone suprised by this? |
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Nat57 |
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It's been almost 2 months now since the Strike started. How many of you can go without a paycheck for 2 months especially around the Holidays??
If I wasn't a writer and had to suffer because of the writer strike, I'd be a little impatient by now. Thank god the talkshows are crossing, their staff must be so grateful. |
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riskysurv |
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This strike makes me re-think my employment contract. Perhaps we should all request to add this clause to our contracts: "Should I feel unsatisfactory compensated at any point and the management refuses to accede to my payraise request, the company shall immediately cease production and no employees should be allowed to work and receive any benefits until a resolution is reached between me and the management. ME!" |
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Lovejonze |
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Nat57 wrote: You know who else is crossing? Actors like Hilary Swank going on The View. Solidarity only goes so far when you have a movie to promote. I can't believe they're willing to forgo the Oscars. |
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managerr |
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You know who else is crossing? Actors like Hilary Swank going on The View. Solidarity only goes so far when you have a movie to promote. I can't believe they're willing to forgo the Oscars. A lot of movie stars are bound by contracts to appear on stuff to promote their movie. |
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Screerider |
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riskysurv wrote: The studios aren't stopping production though. Turn on the TV. There's still things on. From their point of view, nothing has ground to a halt.
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