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GrenadeJumper85

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(03/22/08 8:02 PM)

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Oh, so it's okay for a woman to be a complete cunt, but when the guys start dishing it back too her, its okay to go with the "Woo is me" routine. Please.

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GrenadeJumper85 wrote:
Oh, so it's okay for a woman to be a complete cunt, but when the guys start dishing it back too her, its okay to go with the "Woo is me" routine. Please.

What makes Holly such a cunt? What did she do? I don't remember her flipping pictures over, interupting the boys making cake saying there song is better, week after week saying all the guys have no personality, pretty much saying 'screw you' to a woman she was working for. . just to name a few.

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(03/22/08 8:09 PM)

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Aside from being a whiny mushmouth, she's not really done anything to the guys. She seems rather meek. It's a gang-up mentality, and the kind of stupid shit boys in high school do.

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(03/22/08 8:11 PM)

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Has anyone not thought about the fact that the guys stick up for each other because Holly is just an unbearable cunt to live with?!? I've always gotten that vibe throughout the course of this season.

I think the guys gang up on Holly because of Perry. In fact, I think all the open animosity between everybody is because of Perry.

The first anyone ever said about guys versus girls was Perry. And as if he were a modern-day Nostradamus, once he said that, everyone else just kind of drew lines in the sand from thereon out.

I'm not saying Perry is the only one to blame because everyone else still followed along by their own choice. I think Perry might have a mentality of having to have a "group" and having his group against the others, and because of that and with his strong personality, he's the reason for this guys vs girls thing, which has now devolved into guys vs Holly.

Whatever Holly has against Ronnie in particular is another story, though.

I'd feel differently if it were, say, three bitchy women ganging up on someone like Ronnie, but since it's in reverse, I can't help but root for Holly. Who cares if she's an annoying cunt? It'd be that much greater if the annoying cunt beats the three douchebags who picked on her all season, versus one of them taking it. And if one of the men won, odds are it'd be more of a "HAHA LOLZ HOLLY DI'NT WIN!" reaction and the three would jump up and down together.

I wouldn't have said it quite like that, but I agree.

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(03/22/08 8:14 PM)

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Sorry, but I'm not buying the bullshit that Holly hasn't pushed some of the whole bs that's going on in the house.

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(03/22/08 8:17 PM)

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If you're responding to me, I never said she didn't. I said Perry started it, but they're all just as guilty of participating in it.

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(03/22/08 8:18 PM)

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GrenadeJumper85 wrote:
Sorry, but I'm not buying the bullshit that Holly hasn't pushed some of the whole bs that's going on in the house.

Well, I'm going by what I've seen. You can imagine whatever you wish. :)

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(03/22/08 8:19 PM)

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No I wasn't responding to you, sorry should have clarified.

As for the cake thing, I took that as a complete over the top joking around with Perry, but it wasn't his fault that Shannon and Holly had sticks shoved so far up their asses that they got all offended.

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There is nothing worse than idiot meatheads in a group.

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(03/22/08 8:21 PM)

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I don't remember exactly, but I think it all started at least a few weeks before the cake thing if not farther back. I'm pretty sure I remember Perry saying it's guys against girls and that the guys were gonna stomp the girls more than once before that episode.

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As for the cake thing, I took that as a complete over the top joking around with Perry, but it wasn't his fault that Shannon and Holly had sticks shoved so far up their asses that they got all offended.

I agree. But on the flip side, if Shannon/Holly did that to them, odds are they'd go on a tirade and yell in their faces with the same old "no personality" schtick. I think the fact that Holly and Shannon hardly really retaliated just shows how they're that much more mature than the men. In Holly's case it may have to do with her being meek, but aside from having a nails-on-a-chalkboard voice (sue me, I think it's cute) she hasn't done anything to them.

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(03/22/08 8:29 PM)

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Back to what really matters, if we're gonna lay out their portfolios side by side and critique them, Perry and Holly far outshine Ben and Ronnie. Ronnie shouldn't be anywhere near the top four. Ronnie started out good, but fizzled very fast, and Ben has been too up and down to be a real contender.

Perry and to a lesser extent Holly, have consistently churned out some amazing pictures.

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Yeah, who cares who did what to whom in the house?

Judging them on their work and their versatility, Holly is leaps and bounds above all three of the guys.

There's no comparison in my eyes.

Perry's pictures are OK but it's his neanderthal face that limits him. It reminds me of Lurch from the Addams Family.

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carboysdesire wrote:
Yeah, who cares who did what to whom in the house?

Judging them on their work and their versatility, Holly is leaps and bounds above all three of the guys.

There's no comparison in my eyes.

Perry's pictures are OK but it's his neanderthal face that limits him. It reminds me of Lurch from the Addams Family.

Well I agree...I've tried very hard to judge them on their modeling ability and not their less than charming personalities. But at this point, I'd rather see a winner who is someone who is not a total asshole. I know that goes against everything Sucks stands for, but oh well.

But when it comes down to it, I too think Holly has been the superior model to the rest of them there (Perry is a bit behind her). I think Shannon was superior to them as well. The fact she was never bottom three meant something too. Holly was also in the bottom three only one time. The judges are the ones who decided the bottom three, so they obviously saw something in those two. Was Perry in the bottom three only once? Ben deserves it the least. He's lame.

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(03/22/08 8:44 PM)

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Holly and Perry have both only been in the bottom three once, while Ronnie and Ben have both been in the bottom three four times, with Ben being in the bottom three, three times in a row.

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GrenadeJumper85 wrote:
Holly and Perry have both only been in the bottom three once, while Ronnie and Ben have both been in the bottom three four times, with Ben being in the bottom three, three times in a row.

Ugh. Stupid fucking tweens!!

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Ugh. Stupid fucking tweens!!

As if it's the tweens!

1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12
Ben	SAFE	BTM3	SAFE	LOW	WIN	SAFE	BTM3	BTM3	BTM3	HIGH	TOP4
Holly	WIN	SAFE	BTM3	HIGH	HIGH	HIGH	LOW	WIN	WIN	WIN	TOP4
Perry	HIGH	SAFE	WIN	SAFE	SAFE	HIGH	BTM3	HIGH	LOW	LOW	TOP4
Ronnie	SAFE	HIGH	HIGH	SAFE	BTM3	BTM3	WIN	HIGH	BTM3	BTM2	TOP4
Shannon	HIGH	SAFE	HIGH	HIGH	SAFE	WIN	LOW	LOW	HIGH	OUT		10 - Scandalous
Casey	SAFE	SAFE	HIGH	BTM3	HIGH	LOW	HIGH	BTM3	OUT			9 - Selling a Brand
Frankie	SAFE	SAFE	LOW	SAFE	BTM3	BTM3	HIGH	OUT				8 - Speed and Motion
Jacki	LOW	WIN	SAFE	SAFE	LOW	SAFE	OUT					7 - A Snake of a Partner
Stephanie	SAFE	SAFE	SAFE	WIN	SAFE	OUT						6 - Body Language and Expression
Katy	BTM3	BTM3	SAFE	BTM3	OUT							5 - It's Fashion Week
Jay	SAFE	LOW	BTM3	OUT								4 - Not Making Nice
Aryn	SAFE	HIGH	OUT									3 - Finding Chemistry
Dominic	BTM3	OUT										2 - Getting Cut and Getting Shorn
Sarah	OUT											1 - Welcome to New York!

Wiki chart. Holly hands down has the best track record, when she hasn't won she's almost always been in contention for it. Ben's/Ronnie's =

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(03/22/08 8:53 PM)

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Yea, Ben & Ronnie's track record is absolutely ridiculous when compared to the other two. They should have been gone a while ago.

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Well, judging from the comments on the model's diaries at the Bravo site, this is Ronnie's or Ben's to lose. Ben's fans seem to be all about the fact that he's the "everyman" of the competition, and Ronnie's are all about, "Yeah, way to represent out gay men everywhere", as if he really does.

Still, the majority of my votes went to Ronnie. He may or may not be a douche, and I don't actually think I care. He's amazing looking and does seem to have a real passion for the profession. Perry seems to want it more as a stepping stone to an acting career, Ben looks alright but is the biggest homophobic, misogynistic, delusional ass there, and Holly is breathtaking but I do find her a little off-putting. (I hate her voice, and she seems sulky/petulant when things don't go her way. Give me a little sneakiness, a little talking behind someone's back...I can deal. But I'm around kids all day long who whine and pout, and I detest when adults put on the pouty face when things don't go their way, like Holly has done on several occasions.) So for me it came down to Holly or Ronnie, and I cast 20 for Ronnie and 10 for Holly.

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(03/22/08 9:30 PM)

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I bet Holly regrets not training as much at the end...even though she won individually, when she's up against the men, it's not in her favor.
I'd be happy if any of them won, but Perry least of all. He does look like lurch..with that cro-magnon forehead ridge.
Ben and Ronnie are both beautiful, and so is Holly.

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