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05/18/12 02:22 PM
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#6. Kat Edorsson(7th Place)Kat seemed to play a decent social game with many people, but she did annoy a few outsiders, and she wasn't in as great of a position as she thought. She put herself out there early on, as a target, despite her being in the majority. If there was someone Kim wouldn't have minded sparing, it would've been her. She was in a solid position though, and some people liked her. She stayed in that position basically throughout the entire game. If she would've made it to the end, she may have won, depending on who was with her. The biggest problem with Kat's game was that she thought she was getting there, when she actually was not, and she thought she would get there with Kim, which wouldn't even be a good choice if she did have the control she thought. She would most likely have been destroyed by Kim, throwing away her game, when there are several others who she might have beaten. She ignored Troyzan's proposals, when they probably would've been incredible moves for her. She would've improved her position, and I think Troyzan probably underestimated her likability and overestimated his, so he may have taken her to the end, and I can easily see her winning that one. Instead, she got blindsided by everyone else in the game. It tends to help a person's case in this ranking if their elimination wasn't a good move for the people who caused it, and I think that was absolutely the case with Kat. Alicia, Sabrina, and Tarzan could easily have saved her, and gotten into a great position. I think even Kim, Chelsea, and Sabrina made a mistake by leaving the other three in the game to possibly pull together. Kat did go far, and was relatively well liked, but she did get lucky to get as far she got, and she was blinded into thinking her position was better than it actually was, which led to her elimination.Where she ranks overall: #179#5. Jonas Otsuji(12th Place)Jonas was a difficult person to rank, because he didn't go very far, but he seemed to be doing so many things right. He aligned with Colton early on, and he was in the majority. He was pretty well liked by both sides of the tribe, as well as by the women, and was respected for his work around camp. One big mistake he made before the merge was agreeing to go to tribal council after the guys won immunity. One person could've stopped that, and it ended up making a pretty big difference. He was arguably too loyal to Colton though. He knew that Christina would've been a better person to take to the merge than Alicia, but Colton was dead set on eliminating Christina, and Jonas didn't really do anything to try to convince him otherwise. At the merge, he did try to go after Kat, and then when that didn't work, he went after Mike. Both are reasonable attempts. He was eliminated for being a threat, and I think they made the right choice. He played a strong social game, was in a good position before the merge, and made reasonable attempts to improve his position after the merge, but I'm afraid he was too afraid of Colton, to the point where it may have ended his game. He could've won had he not agreed to go to tribal council after winning immunity, and if he would've been willing to challenge Colton in general, which I don't think he ever was.Where he ranks overall: #170Next up: one teacher, and one finalist who did not win
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PoorYorick wrote:Jonas seemed to have been playing a good Natalie White-esque game, and if Colton had had the same kind of success as Russell, Jonas was in a really good position. But, you know, Colton fucked every single guy's game up.
05/19/12 01:58 PM
#4. Alicia Rosa(5th Place)Unlike a lot of people on this season, Alicia did have somewhat of an understanding of strategy. I give her credit for creating the alliance, which took over as the majority. However, she wasn't really that close with too many of the members of the alliance, and had problems with the outsiders as well, especially Christina. She put herself out there as a target for elimination due to her abrasive personality, but because of her position, she wasn't eliminated before the swap. After the swap, the girls were in the minority, but Alicia made sure to let them think she was with them, while making an alliance with Colton. This allowed her to stay over Monica, but Colton says she would've been out next if he weren't evacuated. I don't believe this. According to Jonas, Colton was dead set on eliminating Christina, and I think he just found out how well positioned Alicia was when he was watching the show, and he just wants to paint a scenario in which he had a chance of winning. In any case, Alicia moved on to the merger, and she was in a solid position, but not a great one. Kim held her as a priority over the guys, but there wasn't much looking out for her after that, despite her thinking that there was. She didn't accept any offers to improve her position, because she was under the false impression that she was running things, and therefore, was already in a good position. However, it wasn't until the top seven and six elimination when she really decreased her chances of winning. Kim offered Kat to be eliminated, which would've been a perfect opportunity for Alicia to get a group of four into the majority with her, Kat, Christina, and Tarzan. She blew that, but still had a good chance in the top six. She, Christina, and Tarzan could've told Kim they were voting out Chelsea, but they themselves could've voted for Kim, making the vote 3-2-1, and giving Alicia the majority over Sabrina and Chelsea in the final five. I think Alicia would've won the final vote against Christina and Tarzan if she would've done that. Instead, she was tricked by Kim into thinking Tarzan wanted to take Sabrina to the end, when he did not, and she ruined her game based on that idea. She voted out Tarzan, and was subsequently eliminated herself at the very next tribal council. Alicia made some decent moves, and although her social game wasn't great, it was decent enough for her to have won a vote against certain people, luckily enough, the same people who would've been willing to get to the end with her, yet she was focused on getting to the end with someone who wasn't willing to take her, and who would've beaten her in the vote anyway.Where she ranks overall: #134#3. Chelsea Meissner(2nd Runner-Up)If Chelsea were just playing the game to get to the end, she would've played almost flawlessly. With this in mind, I'm going to have to move Russell's games down a little bit in the overall ranking, but that's not important right now. Chelsea was a part of the majority in the very beginning, and she joined a sub alliance to gain the majority of that majority. Basically she just had to stay close with Kim and Sabrina, and let Kim do all the work to get them to the end. Chelsea did often bring up names for elimination, such as Kat, who didn't seem to be the best choices for her game, but Kim usually knew what the best moves would be, and Chelsea was smart to listen to her. Chelsea helped pull in Troyzan, Jay, and Mike after the swap, and at the merged, Kim, Chelsea, and Sabrina were in a position where they could basically eliminate whoever they wanted, and they would still have the numbers to get to the end. Throughout the game, Chelsea did rely on Kim's ability to persuade people, such as when she convinced Alicia to vote out Tarzan, but Chelsea was able to be Kim's number one ally, when just about everyone else in the game thought they were, and she deserves credit for that. Watching the season, I said that I would probably play this season in a similar way to how Chelsea was playing it, by being the closest ally to the person who was controlling everything, but I would've been more skeptical as far as believing everything Kim said blindly, and I would've tried to take Kim out as soon as I had the opportunity to do so without ruining my position. I don't think Chelsea did either of those things. I think she just had to hope Kim took her. I think her friendship was a big part of that though. Chelsea was considered to be well liked, although she didn't have too strong of emotional connections with too many people. Her social game seemed to be relatively decent, but not good enough to get a majority of votes against two other people who were well liked. Chelsea would've done a fantastic job if the point of the game were just to get to the end, but she didn't really seem to think about the fact that Kim could've been respected for her game, or that Sabrina was well liked, and probably would've won even if the jury was bitter. I know Kim won the last two immunities, but I doubt Chelsea would've voted her out anyway. If that would've at least been her intention, she would be quite a bit higher, because I think she would've won the game if she did that. Chelsea is someone who can probably go far in every season, and might have the potential to win if she stopped playing based on emotions.Where she ranks overall: #112Next up: someone who received votes in the final tribal council
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05/19/12 05:13 PM
Chelsea didn't even care about winning.
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05/21/12 12:51 PM
#2. Sabrina Thompson(Runner-Up)Sabrina played a strong, yet not perfect game, when it comes to just getting to the end. I also think she played a good game as far as getting the votes goes, but she made the mistake of planning to go to the end with someone who did a much better job of that. If she were up against Chelsea and Christina, she probably would've won, and I give her credit from being one immunity challenge and a tribal council away from making that happen. However, even if Kim would've lost the challenge, Sabrina probably would've tried to still take Christina out. Even if Christina won, Sabrina probably would've been the next target, and I think she would've gone after Chelsea, which probably wouldn't have worked, and wouldn't have resulted in her winning even if it did work. If Sabrina would've planned to vote Kim out with Christina at four, but couldn't because of Kim's immunity, Sabrina would be much higher on the overall ranking. However, she was perfectly fine with going to the end with Kim. She did figure that the jury might've been bitter, which is a reasonable belief, but I felt like even from her point of view, she should've seen that the better odds were with Christina and either Chelsea or Alicia. As far as getting to the end goes though, she did a good job. She was in the majority with the five girls, and the majority of that group with Chelsea and Kim. She also was smart to see that Colton was an outsider on the guys' tribe, and that he was having problems with the stronger guys, so she gave him the idol, which allowed the most polarizing player on the guys' tribe to have control, and eliminate the physically stronger guys, as well as keep the tribe divided. Had Colton gone first, it might've been easier for the two sides to work together, but because of Sabrina's move, that didn't happen. She stayed in a good position until the merge, where she made friends with several of the guys, such as Leif, Troyzan, and Tarzan. She also stayed close with Kim, and after about the final seven, Kim was pretty set on taking Sabrina to the end. She was close enough with Chelsea to make sure she wasn't being voted out before that. I'd say to make the friends she made, and to still be able to convince someone to take her to the end, she did a pretty solid job overall. She just ignored a huge possibility for herself to win, and wouldn't have even taken to opportunity for that to happen, even if it was allowed to her.Where she ranks overall: #59
05/21/12 03:24 PM
Here is the final list of the top 30:Richard Hatch (Borneo)Tina Wesson (The Australian Outback)Ethan Zohn (Africa)Vecepia Towery (Marquesas)Kathy Vavrick-O' Brien (Marquesas)Brian Heidik (Thailand)Rob Cesternino (Amazon)Sandra Diaz-Twine (Pearl Islands)Amber Brkich (All Stars)Chris Daugherty (Vanuatu)Tom Westman (Palau)Danni Boatwright (Guatemala)Aras Baskauskas (Panama)Cirie Fields (Panama)Yul Kwon (Cook Islands)Earl Cole (Fiji)Yau-Man Chan (Fiji)Todd Herzog (China)Parvati Shallow (Micronesia)Cirie Fields (Micronesia)JT Thomas (Tocantins)Stephen Fishbach (Tocantins)Natalie White (Samoa)Brett Clouser (Samoa)Sandra Diaz-Twine (Heroes Vs. Villains)Parvati Shallow (Heroes Vs. Villains)Rob Mariano (Redemption Island)Sophie Clarke (South Pacific)Kim Spradlin (One World)I'll post the first three out soon.
05/21/12 03:50 PM
Roykoopa wrote:Lolsohard if Kim ranks #1 AND this season has the worst average. Best player ever is so skilled she causes others to actively destroy their own games <3
05/21/12 03:53 PM
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