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Mikester		#1461	[-]
Posts: 7930 (12/03/09 11:51 PM) More Recent Posts	Remove this ad GrenadeJumper85 wrote: And then 3 of those 6 lost on their second tries Okay yea, I'm done with these rabid Parvati fans. I hope you're also done posting.
gretchensucks		#1462	[-]
Posts: 918 (12/04/09 12:08 AM) More Recent Posts	Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote: gretchensucks wrote: val wrote: GrenadeJumper85 wrote: Of course, she isn't a pretty, young (white) thing so people always write her off. Same for Earl, who was also a a flawless player. Why do you always have to say the same thing when someone dishes Vecepia.. come on we ALL agree when you defend Cirie, she was just amazing but Vecepia??? who's delusional now? Cirie > 95% of all Survivors > Open Bed Sores > Vicepia The two cannot be compared. At the end of the day, your "flawless" Cirie lost, and Vecepia won. I can not give a bigger to your idea that a loser could be better than an established winner. I refuse to believe that Cirie would have initially aligned with JAYE. Eliza is more unstable than Parvati, it's too much risk to align with her. I never called Cirie flawless. To deny that she's one of the best players ever to play the game is a sign of blindness, deafness, stupidity, or all three. She made it tot he end game both times she played the game. V is easily the weakest winner of all time. She made no independent moves (that were shown at least) to get herself to the end game, with the exception of the final two deal during the last immunity challenge...which is a Survivor 101 play.
Mikester		#1463	[-]
Posts: 7932 (12/04/09 04:03 AM) More Recent Posts	I never called Cirie flawless. To deny that she's one of the best players ever to play the game is a sign of blindness, deafness, stupidity, or all three. She made it tot he end game both times she played the game. V is easily the weakest winner of all time. She made no independent moves (that were shown at least) to get herself to the end game, with the exception of the final two deal during the last immunity challenge...which is a Survivor 101 play. Vecepia wasn't a bad winner or a terrible player, she just wasn't all that impressive and it's stupid for people to bitch and moan about how she gets overlooked. And it's especially stupid to say that she gets overlooked because she's black and that people would feel differently about her if she were white. It's like... O RLY? Because I'm pretty sure Amber gets hated on a ton and people tend to think Amber's an even worse winner than Vecepia. And as far as Earl goes, people overlook him for being boring, too. But people also tend to hate Bob as a winner more than they hate Earl. People "overlook" Vecepia and Earl because they were boring, not because they're black.
GrenadeJumper85		#1464	[-]
Posts: 14706 (12/04/09 09:13 AM) More Recent Posts	I refuse to believe that Cirie would have initially aligned with JAYE. Eliza is more unstable than Parvati, it's too much risk to align with her. Well sorry to bust your bubble, but she intially was. Cirie posted that HERSELF on her myspace blog. She was allied with Yau-Man and Jonathan at first until Yau backstabbed her.
Joaqenix		#1465	[-]
Posts: 4815 (12/04/09 09:46 AM) More Recent Posts	Mikester wrote: People "overlook" Vecepia and Earl because they were boring, not because they're black. Mikester speaking the truth as always and educating all <3
roxbury123		#1466	[-]
Posts: 644 (12/04/09 01:53 PM) More Recent Posts	I just want to add my two cents to the Parvati Debate two pages back. If people quitting is what gets you to the finals thats means your not a good player. As for the new season, if your friend Erika Shay sets up an alliance for you (Parv - Russell) it also does not make you a good player. The facts are if Kathleen, Chet, JFP, Jonathan never quit/forced out Parv would have never won FVF. On the otherhand those people quitting had no instant affect on Cirie, so i will support people who say Cirie was a solid player. Parvati had no business being on FVF when there are a number of other ladies more deserving (Twila, Courtney, Courtney, PG, Twila, Cindy, Michelle, Katie, Jenn, Danielle, Sally, Candace, Becky, Jamie were all better candidates) . This debate can not be said for Amber/Jenna/Alicia because all the other people who should have gone on ASS said NO! Parv was got on because her friend is in casting, and thats some BIG BULL. Again how the first moron eliminated from Amazing Race 5 has any pull on these shows is beyond me!
GrenadeJumper85		#1467	[-]
Posts: 14714 (12/04/09 01:59 PM) More Recent Posts	Oh okay!
ElisabethNelehHeidiRok		#1468	[-]
Posts: 1645 (12/04/09 02:48 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts	roxbury123 wrote: I just want to add my two cents to the Parvati Debate two pages back. If people quitting is what gets you to the finals thats means your not a good player. As for the new season, if your friend Erika Shay sets up an alliance for you (Parv - Russell) it also does not make you a good player. The facts are if Kathleen, Chet, JFP, Jonathan never quit/forced out Parv would have never won FVF. On the otherhand those people quitting had no instant affect on Cirie, so i will support people who say Cirie was a solid player. Parvati had no business being on FVF when there are a number of other ladies more deserving (Twila, Courtney, Courtney, PG, Twila, Cindy, Michelle, Katie, Jenn, Danielle, Sally, Candace, Becky, Jamie were all better candidates) . This debate can not be said for Amber/Jenna/Alicia because all the other people who should have gone on ASS said NO! Parv was got on because her friend is in casting, and thats some BIG BULL. Again how the first moron eliminated from Amazing Race 5 has any pull on these shows is beyond me! Thats not a fact at all. Also Chet quitting did have an effect on Cirie, because if Chet had not quit and Chet, Erik, Tracy and Ami had taken out Ozzy instead of Chet quitting, then instead of the next 2 boots being Tracy and Ami, it would have more than likely been Amanda and Cirie.
Maximus20		#1469	[-]
Posts: 345 (12/04/09 02:49 PM) More Recent Posts	^See this is why these arguments are usually pointless.... You can play the "what if" game for literaly every single moment, of every single season. Parvarti won. The End. And im not even a Parvarti fan....but....if you play the what if with her, you can play it with everyone.
tomash		#1470	[-]
Posts: 1895 (12/04/09 02:58 PM) More Recent Posts	Remove this ad I love how every thread on sucks sooner or later turns to Parvati. So controversial <3
tomash		#1471	[-]
Posts: 1899 (12/04/09 03:54 PM) More Recent Posts	You don't get it. Having lots of airtime doesn't make someone interesting. Sure, Earl had lots of confessionals, he's still bland and boring though.
tomash		#1472	[-]
Posts: 1900 (12/04/09 03:57 PM) More Recent Posts	STFU you racist c.unt. Weren't you banned?
GrenadeJumper85		#1473	[-]
Posts: 14725 (12/04/09 03:57 PM) More Recent Posts	Oh my.
tomash		#1474	[-]
Posts: 1901 (12/04/09 03:58 PM) More Recent Posts	It's not about the edit, it's about if they are interesting characters or not. Earl isn't. I don't have anything against Vecepia.
Maximus20		#1475	[-]
Posts: 351 (12/04/09 04:17 PM) More Recent Posts	Yeah but....a lucky win... Is still a win. Todd...my personal favourite winner. Was lucky too. I know and accept that. He was damn lucky James didnt play his idol. He was damn lucky Peih-Gee couldn't flip Denise. Actually, He was damn Lucky Denise or Amanda didnt flip in general. But Todd still won. Do I care that his win was lucky??? no. So I can understand why fans of Parvarti dont care ither. Sure she was lucky all that stuff happened. But she still won, and thus her fans will still be happy.
ilovekelly752		#1476	[-]
Posts: 495 (12/04/09 04:24 PM) More Recent Posts	Maximus20 wrote: Todd...my personal favourite winner. Was lucky too. I know and accept that. He was damn lucky James didnt play his idol. He was damn lucky Peih-Gee couldn't flip Denise. Actually, He was damn Lucky Denise or Amanda didnt flip in general. Yeah, but he had to talk those people into not doing those things.
ilovekelly752		#1477	[-]
Posts: 496 (12/04/09 04:32 PM) More Recent Posts	SSerenaSSS wrote: Mikester wrote: GrenadeJumper85 wrote: You're joking right? Don't kid yourself, Parvati was good in Micronesia but I don't think she's even on the same plane as Rich, Brian, Tina, Vee, Todd, & Tom. Remember, it did take her two chances to win, when the ones I listed below played awesome games and one their first tries. : And then 3 of those 6 lost on their second tries Vecepia, Tina, and Todd are nothing special. Vecepia, Tina and Todd won on their first tries. Partwati lost her original season, got outplayed, and the likes of Becky and Sundra beat her. Vecepia, Tina and Todd were able to implement their strategies and win the 1st time unlike Partwati. BESIDES, PARTWATI WOULD HAVE BEEN GONE FIRST IF IT WASN'T FOR JFP QUITTING AND CIRIE ALREADY SAID DIDN'T WANT A TIE ON HER MYSPLACE BLOG SO PARTWATI WOULD BE GONE. ALSO, PARTWATI WAS LUCKY JOHNATHAN HAD TO QUIT, BECAUSE HE WAS AFTER HER FIRST, AND SHE WAS ALSO LUCKY THE PRODUCERS HAD TO CHANGE IT TO A F2 AT THE LAST MINUTE BECAUSE OF THE INJURIES. THOSE ARE THE FACTS. How did you know JFP would've voted out Parvati. He might've said he would have, but this is the same person who said he was the best player in PI after Lill voted him out, and he also said he was the best player ever. It's his pride. In fact, on the show, he did say Yau Man was gone once his idol was gone. If he had voted out Parvati, how would he have expected Yau-Man to go next? Wouldn't it make sense that he would've voted out someone in Yau-Man's alliance? Just because Jonathan was after her, doesn't mean he would've gotten her out. She was after him too, and she had more allies on that tribe. He or Eliza probably would've been out if instead of Jonathan qutting, someone from that team was voted out, and I'm saying that as an Eliza fan. Also, no one knows what the final vote would've been. Out of the votes we can say for almost certainty would've happened in a F3 situations, Parvati has two, (Natalie and Alexis) Amanda has two, (James and Ozzy and Cirie has one. (Eliza) The only way cirie would've won would be if she got both of Jason and Erik's votes.
ilovekelly752		#1478	[-]
Posts: 497 (12/04/09 04:46 PM) More Recent Posts	SSerenaSSS wrote: ilovekelly752 wrote: SSerenaSSS wrote: Mikester wrote: GrenadeJumper85 wrote: You're joking right? Don't kid yourself, Parvati was good in Micronesia but I don't think she's even on the same plane as Rich, Brian, Tina, Vee, Todd, & Tom. Remember, it did take her two chances to win, when the ones I listed below played awesome games and one their first tries. : And then 3 of those 6 lost on their second tries Vecepia, Tina, and Todd are nothing special. Vecepia, Tina and Todd won on their first tries. Partwati lost her original season, got outplayed, and the likes of Becky and Sundra beat her. Vecepia, Tina and Todd were able to implement their strategies and win the 1st time unlike Partwati. BESIDES, PARTWATI WOULD HAVE BEEN GONE FIRST IF IT WASN'T FOR JFP QUITTING AND CIRIE ALREADY SAID DIDN'T WANT A TIE ON HER MYSPLACE BLOG SO PARTWATI WOULD BE GONE. ALSO, PARTWATI WAS LUCKY JOHNATHAN HAD TO QUIT, BECAUSE HE WAS AFTER HER FIRST, AND SHE WAS ALSO LUCKY THE PRODUCERS HAD TO CHANGE IT TO A F2 AT THE LAST MINUTE BECAUSE OF THE INJURIES. THOSE ARE THE FACTS. How did you know JFP would've voted out Parvati. He might've said he would have, but this is the same person who said he was the best player in PI after Lill voted him out, and he also said he was the best player ever. It's his pride. In fact, on the show, he did say Yau Man was gone once his idol was gone. If he had voted out Parvati, how would he have expected Yau-Man to go next? Wouldn't it make sense that he would've voted out someone in Yau-Man's alliance? Just because Jonathan was after her, doesn't mean he would've gotten her out. She was after him too, and she had more allies on that tribe. He or Eliza probably would've been out if instead of Jonathan qutting, someone from that team was voted out, and I'm saying that as an Eliza fan. Also, no one knows what the final vote would've been. Out of the votes we can say for almost certainty would've happened in a F3 situations, Parvati has two, (Natalie and Alexis) Amanda has two, (James and Ozzy and Cirie has one. (Eliza) The only way cirie would've won would be if she got both of Jason and Erik's votes. Alexis said she would have voted for Cirie to win and so would have Jason and Erik. Eliza's vote makes 4. Anyway, Parvati would have 100% been the 1st one voted off if JFP ha dnot quit. JFP, Cirie, John, Yau-Man, Eliza and Ami would have all voted for her and that's a fact. ;) She was lucky as it gets. Maybe Alexis said that, but did Jason and Erik say that, or are you just guessing? Like you said with Cirie, she would not vote to force a tie, so basically whoever JFP voted out was who Cirie was voting out, and JFP was totally against Yau-Man for the thing with the boat. He said he was voting Yau-Man out the first chance he got. He wouldn't have been able to do that if Parvati was out. Everything that aired pointed to him being against Yau-Man's alliance. Nothing specific pointed to him going against Parvati, other than him saying it after she already won.
chapera rocks		#1479	[-]
Posts: 12143 (12/04/09 05:03 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts	ilovekelly752 wrote: Maximus20 wrote: Todd...my personal favourite winner. Was lucky too. I know and accept that. He was damn lucky James didnt play his idol. He was damn lucky Peih-Gee couldn't flip Denise. Actually, He was damn Lucky Denise or Amanda didnt flip in general. Yeah, but he had to talk those people into not doing those things. .... He didn't even know how seriously Amanda was considering turning on him. He was unaware of his position within the tribe for the latter half of the game.
chapera rocks		#1480	[-]
Posts: 12144 (12/04/09 05:08 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts	Remove this ad Maybe Alexis said that, but did Jason and Erik say that, or are you just guessing? Like you said with Cirie, she would not vote to force a tie, so basically whoever JFP voted out was who Cirie was voting out, and JFP was totally against Yau-Man for the thing with the boat. He said he was voting Yau-Man out the first chance he got. He wouldn't have been able to do that if Parvati was out. Everything that aired pointed to him being against Yau-Man's alliance. Nothing specific pointed to him going against Parvati, other than him saying it after she already won. Wait, so we should trust you instead of trust what Fairplay said himself? Fairplay was voting out Parvati, there's no question about that. Evidence from interviews AND the show have suggested as much. What in the show suggested he was against JAYE? Nothing. Just because you say it doesn't make it true. He never said he'd vote out Yau the second he could. They also didn't show how they bonded and how Yau gave him fatherly advice. And Jason said the best players were Parvati and Cirie. I think Erik was an Amanda vote, but Jason seemed like he'd be a Cirie vote. I can't say for sure, but between him saying she played a great game and his friendship with Eliza, it seems highly probable.

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