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S19-Episode 4 - Solving Riddles

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JT4ever		#21	[-]
Posts: 145 (10/03/09 04:37 PM) More Recent Posts	Remove this ad crocophile wrote: Why would Shambo believe any of the F-F? Who knows how Shambo's mind works, but she apparently believed Ashley's claim that the idol she found is fake. If Shambo was still in possession of what she believes is a real idol, I can't imagine that the show would have left it out.
crocophile		#22	[-]
Posts: 10898 (10/03/09 04:41 PM) MESS Moderator More Recent Posts	Maybe since we haven't seen the scene we don't know. Even if she believe's Ashley she still doesn't know if Yasmin didn't dance around F-F with it. All Shambo would know is it's gone and she (Shambo) doesn't have it. Last Edited By: crocophile 10/03/09 04:45 PM. Edited 1 times.
James		#23	[-]
Posts: 346 (10/03/09 04:50 PM) More Recent Posts	I think I know where the editing is going to take us. There is a reason why on Galu, the women have been given more focus by the editors than the men. When Galu goes to their 1st TC, 1 men will be voted out. Afterwards, the women on Galu will form some sort of an alliance and take out the men (why do you think Brett, Dave, John, and Erik have been so ignored). I think Russell S is Galu's 1st boot (thus highlighting his failed leadership -> Galu breaks apart after he leaves), followed by at least 3 of the other 4 men (meaning a losing streak ahead for Galu). At merge, the Galu men are going to be wiped out early as Shambo jumps to the other side, and then the Galu women (sans Shambo) will be the next ones to leave. Leaving us with a finale of Monica/Shambo + 3 to 4 of Mick/Jaison/Russel/Ashley/Liz (I think Foa Foa will lose Natalie early merge...maybe because she switches sides?)
birdlady		#24	[-]
Posts: 2890 (10/03/09 05:02 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts	Why would Shambo believe any of the F-F? From what we saw, she feels like she fits in with them better. So at least subconsciously, she wants to believe them.
birdlady		#25	[-]
Posts: 2891 (10/03/09 05:08 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts	I'm having a hard time with the perspective on this series. Is it two people milling about gathering their things to head off to a challenge, who just happen to pass very near each other (even though they're pretty much in the middle of nowhere)? Or could it be Russell saying "OK fine, you take it"?
Trixiego		#26	[-]
Posts: 18728 (10/04/09 08:55 AM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish More Recent Posts	If FF wins immunity, they'd be sending someone over to Galu right? It is very possible that Mick sends Evil Russell and if that is the case, these riddles could take on a whole new meaning. Evil Russell is going to make sure he does whatever he can to "sabotage" the Galu tribe (it wouldn't surprise me if he had something to do with the chicken getting loose but that's neither here nor there) Evil Russell HATES Yasmin and said he wanted payback on her. Maybe he instigates something that causes Yasmin to get "in trouble" regarding her lie about the HII or something along those lines. I can't imagine Evil Russell not taking full advantage of doing something to the Galu tribe if he is the one picked to visit and I can totally see Mick sending him there.
JT4ever		#27	[-]
Posts: 148 (10/04/09 09:03 AM) More Recent Posts	All this presumably after he finds the HII that would be his first order of business, right?
Trixiego		#28	[-]
Posts: 18729 (10/04/09 09:18 AM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish More Recent Posts	Before, after, in between. "All this" sounds like Russell is not capable of multitasking.
Sam Buru		#29	[-]
Posts: 1547 (10/04/09 09:23 AM) MESS member More Recent Posts	Mick probably would send Evil Russell, that is brilliant Trix!
JT4ever		#30	[-]
Posts: 150 (10/04/09 09:43 AM) More Recent Posts	Remove this ad Trixiego wrote: Before, after, in between. "All this" sounds like Russell is not capable of multitasking. Would you multitask with a HII on the line and limited time in which to find it? Even if Russell strikes up a cross-tribal alliance with someone at Galu to continue the search after he's gone (Shambo seems an obvious choice), I'd be surprised if he didn't make it his first priority to get his mitts on that idol, ahead of any mind games he might want to play with the Galumps. But then, I get surprised all the time.
crocophile		#31	[-]
Posts: 10901 (10/04/09 10:08 AM) MESS Moderator More Recent Posts	He's got at least half a day, maybe more. That's more than enough time to do several things. He'd also know the Galutes would be watching. The clues for the Hidden Idols are not exact, but they are almost certainly hidden in equivalent places - Somewhere in the camp, that's a good hiding place. Russell may not even find it since a Galute might also figure that out. Excellent analysis Trix. ...Letting the chicken fly would be great cover to look. Last Edited By: crocophile 10/04/09 10:14 AM. Edited 1 times.
CFmomma		#32	[-]
Posts: 3337 (10/04/09 12:34 PM) MESS member More Recent Posts	crocophile wrote: He's got at least half a day, maybe more. That's more than enough time to do several things. He'd also know the Galutes would be watching. The clues for the Hidden Idols are not exact, but they are almost certainly hidden in equivalent places - Somewhere in the camp, that's a good hiding place. Russell may not even find it since a Galute might also figure that out. Excellent analysis Trix. ...Letting the chicken fly would be great cover to look. Letting the chicken loose would make an excellent diversion, if one was looking for the HII. Finding a way to blame Yasmine sounds like vintage Russevil. Hmmm...
Trixiego		#33	[-]
Posts: 18730 (10/04/09 02:10 PM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish More Recent Posts	JT4ever wrote: Trixiego wrote: Before, after, in between. "All this" sounds like Russell is not capable of multitasking. Would you multitask with a HII on the line and limited time in which to find it? Even if Russell strikes up a cross-tribal alliance with someone at Galu to continue the search after he's gone (Shambo seems an obvious choice), I'd be surprised if he didn't make it his first priority to get his mitts on that idol, ahead of any mind games he might want to play with the Galumps. But then, I get surprised all the time. I wouldn't be doing half the things Russell has done; the question is whether Russell would or could do it. Considering that Russell appears to take pride in accomplishing so much so quickly and no doubt will consider quite a few of the Gala tribe to be made up of people inferior to himself, it would come as no surprise to me should he attempt to find the HII and try to sabotage the tribe somehow if only by doing something that could take less than five minutes. Also, instigating something verbally hardly takes up a lot of time.
birdlady		#34	[-]
Posts: 2894 (10/04/09 02:39 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts	If you're already down 10-6, you'd need to be real sure you didn't get caught in the sabotage. (If you were up that much, you could have a good old time destroying non-personal property.) If you got caught looking for the idol, it might be awkward, but not necessarily something that would get all majority of them gunning for you at the merge. It seems like Bad Russell's strategy is a lot more about making a super secret final alliance with each and every one, than about sabotage. We think purple tribe wins the reward challenge and gets the chicken, right? But yall are guessing that doesn't include the spy? The spy will be sent by the winner of the immunity challenge, and so get to sit in on tribal council? If you were a FoFo and could influence the Galu boot, who would you want it to be? No point in wasting a boot on Yasmin. Erik probably? Or an ally of Erik? Did Shambo blurt out enough for FoFo to know who that is ahead of time? Who on FoFo would be the best manipulator?
MissRabbit		#35	[-]
Posts: 908 (10/04/09 06:01 PM) MESS member More Recent Posts	i agree, birdlady, that Foa² would want the spy to influence Galu into booting a strong player and if it was anyone else but poopypants, i would think that would be their goal. But for as strategic as he thinks he is, EvilRussell is still guided by emotional reactions. Marisa dared to challenge him and poof she's gone. Same with Betsy. He finds out Ashley was considering going against him and he's hell bent on getting her out. Yasmin insulted him, calling him a baby. He said she'd pay for that statement. Despite what's good for the tribe, I cannot see EvilRussell being able to think of anything other than exacting his revenge on Yasmin. Even if he doesn't target her for the next boot, I can see him planting one of his Russell Seeds (gag) to ruin her chances of making it more than the next boot or two. that'll teach her for going against him. eyeroll
crocophile		#36	[-]
Posts: 10905 (10/05/09 06:26 AM) MESS Moderator More Recent Posts	Agreed, BadRussell would be gunning for Yasmin. He's very logical if does not include him, but takes it quite personally if it does.
chapera rocks		#37	[-]
Posts: 11783 (10/05/09 08:50 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts	Mathematically, Foa² = Foa Sorry, that was bugging me.
birdlady		#38	[-]
Posts: 2895 (10/05/09 10:05 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts	The important thing is to keep in mind that each of them has a 1 in 16 chance of winning a million dollars.
Orangeena	I think Trixie nailed it	#39	[-]
Posts: 1578 (10/06/09 11:39 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts	Remove this ad Agreeance with all who think Trixie nailed it this week. With Russevil switched, he does the maximum amount of damage in a limited amount of time. I wonder if he finds out anything worthwhile about Galu, but they seem to lose and he does go to sit in on the Tribal council... Of course, Dr. Mick might want to send someone he trusts MORE like Jaison...But Russevil may have them all hood-winked...

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