Harper's Island--Decent Summer Slasher

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Posts: 33 (07/05/09 9:51 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Ah, nevermind. I see what you are saying in the listing of the finale episode. I'm still not going to worry about it too much since I think the final would still revolve around Trish/Abby and Henry and the past anyway.
1000Proof		#5262	[-]
Posts: 11197 (07/05/09 10:02 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I like your theories tullfan.
NlGHTCRAWLER		#5263	[-]
Posts: 22049 (07/05/09 10:05 AM) >: \| Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	This show is still on???
bumlets1		#5264	[-]
Posts: 1483 (07/05/09 10:19 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The only people I would be surprised if they did it are Danny or Madison.
GoHomeAndEatYoRice		#5265	[-]
Posts: 908 (07/05/09 10:30 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Coachocd wrote: Miles Edgeworth wrote: young henry was already shown in an article with a fish so that can be the scene with young hgenry. No, he's not credited on IMDB. His scene comes later. There is no point of having an Abby/JD scene with Henry's/JD's mother without Henry. ----------------- IMDB is not always accurate though. This could all be misdirection by the producers. For example, they could have taken down Young Henry for now and also listed Trish as being in all 13 episodes. I have more a tendency to believe Karim that 2-3 people die in Ep. 12 than IMDB pre-finale for this show. It also lists Julia as having appeared in three episodes and we only saw her in one that I can recall. She appeared in three. 1st. Was episode 4 when she was with Jimmy and Abby. 2nd. Was Episode 5, where you see her play the organ. 3rd. Was Episode 6, where you see her crying and is comforted by Abby, and then is escorted home by Maggie.
AmightyRo		#5266	[-]
Posts: 974 (07/05/09 12:24 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	tullfan2 wrote: After rewatching the pilot, I finally see the motive for Lucy's death. My current thoughts: There are 2 main killers - John Wakefield and Henry. Wakefield is a psychopathic killer who doesn't care out being caught and leaves his victims out in the open. Henry is a calculating killer who only murders his victims when he is certain that he will not be suspected. The 2 killers are acting independently and there is no connection between the two of them other than chance. Abby either really is Wakefield's biological child or at least Wakefield believes that Abby is his daughter. Jimmy is Wakefield's accomplice but he doesn't murder anyone. Henry is only marrying Trish to get the Wellington fortune. Henry's relationship with Abby is not strictly platonic and she is Henry's real love. Victims and their probable killers: Cousin Ben - Henry (because he is a Wellington) Uncle Marty - Wakefield Reverend Fain - Wakefield Kelly - Wakefield Lucy - Henry because he suspects that she knows that his relationship with Abby is not platonic Hunter - Henry Booth - accident Thomas - Wakefield (even though it seems like the killer is Henry, he would not have someone die in public. It doesn't make sense for Henry to kill Mr. Wellington until after the wedding is over) Richard - Henry Malcolm - Wakefield Cole Harkin - Wakefield JD - Wakefield ? (not sure about this one) Beth - Wakefield Katherine - Henry All the rest - Wakefield The most interesting murder is Richard's. Henry knew that Richard tried to drown Trish. After Henry told Richard that Trish knew about his affair with Katherine, Richard attempted to drown Trish before she told Thomas about his affair with Katherine. Richard was forced to save Trish after Henry showed up at the pool. After Mr. Wellington's shocking death and after Uncle Marty's body was found. Henry realized that there was a Wakefield-like killer on the Island. He took advantage of this and killed Richard and strung him up ala Wakefield. He later murdered Katherine since he knew that he would not be suspected. Henry does not want Wakefield to be killed until after Wakefield kills Shea and Madison. Once they are dead, Trish will marry Henry because her entire family is dead and she has no one else. It is still unclear how Uncle Marty's cash fits into this. I can't wait for the finale. I'm actually not sure if Wakefield killed Malcolm. I know we don't know how much time passes between certain scenes, but it appeared as though Madison was stolen around the same time Malcolm was slashed, and unless Madison's lying again (which is totally plausible), we can almost say with confidence that it was Wakefield who stole Madison (as her new "friend"). So that would leave someone else to do Malcolm's killing.
GiGiTheDog.parispointlessb...		#5267	[-]
Posts: 43 (07/05/09 1:21 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Bark! (Ok, I have to wonder. Karmin or whatever his name is said that I might or might not be in the finale. So, what does that mean? How does he not know? I need to be seen again. I want to know what happens to me! )
cabanachat		#5268	[-]
Posts: 3147 (07/05/09 2:15 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	in what universe can anyone be putting any credence into clues or tweets at this point? i mean, come on.
iismepeter		#5269	[-]
Posts: 3165 (07/05/09 2:51 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Wait...when did people stop thinking Booth was alive?
tullfan2		#5270	[-]
Posts: 3544 (07/05/09 3:24 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	AmightyRo wrote: tullfan2 wrote: After rewatching the pilot, I finally see the motive for Lucy's death. My current thoughts: There are 2 main killers - John Wakefield and Henry. Wakefield is a psychopathic killer who doesn't care out being caught and leaves his victims out in the open. Henry is a calculating killer who only murders his victims when he is certain that he will not be suspected. The 2 killers are acting independently and there is no connection between the two of them other than chance. Abby either really is Wakefield's biological child or at least Wakefield believes that Abby is his daughter. Jimmy is Wakefield's accomplice but he doesn't murder anyone. Henry is only marrying Trish to get the Wellington fortune. Henry's relationship with Abby is not strictly platonic and she is Henry's real love. Victims and their probable killers: Cousin Ben - Henry (because he is a Wellington) Uncle Marty - Wakefield Reverend Fain - Wakefield Kelly - Wakefield Lucy - Henry because he suspects that she knows that his relationship with Abby is not platonic Hunter - Henry Booth - accident Thomas - Wakefield (even though it seems like the killer is Henry, he would not have someone die in public. It doesn't make sense for Henry to kill Mr. Wellington until after the wedding is over) Richard - Henry Malcolm - Wakefield Cole Harkin - Wakefield JD - Wakefield ? (not sure about this one) Beth - Wakefield Katherine - Henry All the rest - Wakefield The most interesting murder is Richard's. Henry knew that Richard tried to drown Trish. After Henry told Richard that Trish knew about his affair with Katherine, Richard attempted to drown Trish before she told Thomas about his affair with Katherine. Richard was forced to save Trish after Henry showed up at the pool. After Mr. Wellington's shocking death and after Uncle Marty's body was found. Henry realized that there was a Wakefield-like killer on the Island. He took advantage of this and killed Richard and strung him up ala Wakefield. He later murdered Katherine since he knew that he would not be suspected. Henry does not want Wakefield to be killed until after Wakefield kills Shea and Madison. Once they are dead, Trish will marry Henry because her entire family is dead and she has no one else. It is still unclear how Uncle Marty's cash fits into this. I can't wait for the finale. I'm actually not sure if Wakefield killed Malcolm. I know we don't know how much time passes between certain scenes, but it appeared as though Madison was stolen around the same time Malcolm was slashed, and unless Madison's lying again (which is totally plausible), we can almost say with confidence that it was Wakefield who stole Madison (as her new "friend"). So that would leave someone else to do Malcolm's killing. During the show, Malcolm was killed after Madison received the note from the mystery person but before Madison entered the recreation room where that person was waiting for her. Madison thought that she was going to meet her father and the note could have specified a time of day for her to go to that room. That would have allowed Wakefield enough time to take care of Malcolm and also to retrieve whatever was left of the cash that Malcolm didn't already burn.
tullfan2		#5271	[-]
Posts: 3545 (07/05/09 3:38 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	1000Proof wrote: I like your theories tullfan. Thanks. I think that Henry wasn't intending to kill anyone (except perhaps Cousin Ben). and just wanted to get married. After the unexpected offing of Daddy Wellington, he now needs all the other possible heirs (other than Trish) to be killed off. He took care of Richard and Katherine. He wants Wakefield to murder Shea and Madison while at the same time keeping himself from being killed by Wakefield. I think that is why he keeps Abby from trying to kill Wakefield. It may turn out that Wakefield and Jimmy are the 2 killers but Karim said that what will happen in the last 2 minutes of episode 2 will shock you. What happened in the church in the last episode cinched it for me that Jimmy is Wakefield's accomplice. The viewers caught a glimpse of Wakefield in the church but no one saw that he was there. Jimmy unexpectedly enters the church and distracts everyone from noticing that Wakefield left and took Chloe with him. The story that Jimmy gave that he awoke and went into town to get help is worth its weight in baloney. Cole Harkin said that JD and his dad visited him in the hospital while he was recovering from surviving the boat explosion. It could be that Cole was referring to Uncle Marty as JD's 'dad' since Marty is JD's legal guardian. I don't know when Henry's father died. Cole Harkin always thought that Wakefield was still alive and this might have caused Uncle Marty to bring the $250K to bribe Wakefield into leaving the wedding guests alone.
LPMA		#5272	[-]
Posts: 4355 (07/05/09 3:56 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Karim said that what will happen in the last 2 minutes of episode 2 will shock you. So basically we'll get a shocking last-minute reveal with absolutely no explanations? Perfect.
Coachocd		#5273	[-]
Posts: 7835 (07/05/09 4:13 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think Wakefield is and has always been the "main killer" as in killed the most people. Wakefield displays his bodies for everyone to see. He likes acknowledgment. The other killer wants his bodies not to be found. Wakefield killings, put on display: Uncle Marty, Kelly, Cole, Beth, Sheriff, Deputies, State Troopers, Nikki, Shane, Cal, Chloe (defacto) Other killer (Henry) killing's: Ben, Lucy, Hunter, Malcolm -- these bodies were not meant to be found, unlike the way Wakefield kills. The four that could be either are Rev. Fain, Thomas, Richard, Katherine -- although these bodies were found, if the motive was to kill off the heirs of the Wellington fortune, Henry could have killed these people or Wakefield could have killed them , each with each other's help. JD is an interesting case. He could have been killed simply because he knew too much. Booth either killed himself accidentally or was shot by a marksman for the money. ------------- The hardest part of this mystery to me is who was shooting at them on the docks dressed in a Sheriff's uniform? Wakefield? Was it Jimmy who had jumped in the water already knowing it was going to explode, and faked being hurt? Why have we not seen the face of the shooter or of the person who did the original killings 7 years ago? Jimmy wasn't the killer seven years ago. However, someone likely helped Wakefield hang up the harbormaster like that. I almost hate to mentioned it, but the rules are gone anyway. Is there a third killer, who is not Wakefield and not one of the 25 on the bingo card? We have yet to see Wakefield hold a gun. This 3rd killer could also have been in the tunnel with the lead pipe that tried to hit Sully and Danny through the bullet holes last episode. The creepy gardener with a 20-year old grudge against the Wellington family cause they got him fired comes to mind. But only as a guess. This other possibility that Jimmy is Wakefield's assistant, but that Henry was killing people independently of them. Nothing would shock me at this point, whatever happens in the last two minutes of episode 12, where I guess the identity of the other killer is revealed. Last Edited By: Coachocd 07/05/09 4:16 PM. Edited 1 times.
AmightyRo		#5274	[-]
Posts: 976 (07/05/09 4:25 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I may be putting too much thought into this, but why wouldn't the killer kill JD right away, instead of leaving him conscious to the point where he could tell someone who slashed him? Unless Henry really is the killer and Abby just happened to stumble into the murder scene......
floofymac		#5275	[-]
Posts: 409 (07/05/09 4:28 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	tullfan2 wrote: It may turn out that Wakefield and Jimmy are the 2 killers but Karim said that what will happen in the last 2 minutes of episode 2 will shock you. But, as others have speculated, it could be revealed that "it was all just a dream" .....
LPMA		#5276	[-]
Posts: 4357 (07/05/09 5:01 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Nothing would shock me at this point, whatever happens in the last two minutes of episode 12, where I guess the identity of the other killer is revealed. Oh so the shocking two last minutes are episode 12 and not 13? That's a bit better. I don't see them going the dream route with one full episode left.
enjoyresponsbly		#5277	[-]
Posts: 13 (07/05/09 5:04 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Karim has stated that it's not a dream sequence and there will be no twist ending where none of this is actually happening.
enjoyresponsbly		#5278	[-]
Posts: 14 (07/05/09 5:08 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I wasn't on this thread yet when ep 1 aired, but did anyone notice/discuss this? just seems odd.
LPMA		#5279	[-]
Posts: 4359 (07/05/09 5:26 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Regular typo? I don't see it meaning much. This isn't The Mole.
floofymac		#5280	[-]
Posts: 410 (07/05/09 5:30 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Wasn't this filmed in Canada? Maybe they just don't know how to spell "Washington" up there, eh?

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