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Je Fa |
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I know! Shameless greedy whiners, but then that's why they invested with him in the first place.
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Bowie.thehole |
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Little do most world citizens know or care that a variation of the same scheme is being gradually perpetrated as we speak by ever-globalized banking empires
who have converted our real wealth into imaginary digits subservient to their good will.
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GlamsSlam |
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I care very little about his "investors" The stories behind how they ass kissed and begged to be in the "group" is hysterical. He played
people brilliantly.
But with this we don't really get the information needed to understand how he exactly perpetuated the fraud and as a result regulation for this will continue to remain unchecked. But as of now the Obama/Geithner/Summers trio seem to think that regulation is a dirty word and best left to those in the know.. the one's who did it. Shit they make hackers explain how they commit their crimes as part of sentencing but this fuck gets a pass. |
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factoryhurl |
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Statement of Ruth Madoff
From the moment I learned from my husband that he had committed an enormous fraud, I have had two thoughts - first, that so many people who trusted him would be ruined financially and emotionally, and second, that my life with the man I have known for over 50 years was over. Many of my husband's investors were my close friends and family. And in the days since December, I have read, with immense pain, the wrenching stories of people whose life savings have evaporated because of his crime. My husband was the one we (and I include myself) respected and trusted with our lives and our livelihoods, often for many, many years, and who was respected in the securities industry as well. Then there is the other man who stunned us all with his confession and is responsible for this terrible situation in which so many now find themselves. Lives have been upended and futures have been taken away. All those touched by this fraud feel betrayed; disbelieving the nightmare they woke to. I am embarrassed and ashamed. Like everyone else, I feel betrayed and confused. The man who committed this horrible fraud is not the man whom I have known for all these years. In the end, to say that I feel devastated for the many whom my husband has destroyed is truly inadequate. Nothing I can say seems sufficient regarding the daily suffering that all those innocent people are enduring because of my husband. But if it matters to them at all, please know that not a day goes by when I don't ache over the stories that I have heard and read. |
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GlamsSlam |
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Okay she can just take a can of shut the fuck up. It must be hard to go with the great unwashed (literally) to supercuts to get highlights. She can come to my
salon we don't judge and they give you a PBR with a do. So come on Ruth and ditch the Channel and hang in the meantime can the fucker who is still your
husband explain exactly how this started and who was in on it.
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MsJulieR |
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yay for 150 years.. those always crack me up but, it assures us his carcass will be hauled outta there...
maybe some killer will send him to hell fast... |
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PassionatePiscesMan |
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Mrs Madoff is sure aching
How tough is it living off $2.5 million? Ruth Madoff is about to find out. Bernie Madoff's wife has been left with a lump sum in that amount from her settlement with the Justice Department. The first thing to note is that the cash doesn't come completely free and clear. She may still face claims from the Securities & Exchange Commission, the Securities Investor Protection Corporation, and the trustees liquidating her husband's business and estate. It is also unclear how much Social Security she will have to live on as well. When you cast aside the sort of smoke and mirrors used by her husband, a conservative investment portfolio may only earn about 3% a year over inflation. At that rate, and if Mrs. Madoff wants to make sure she doesn't outlive her money, her $2.5 million settlement should give her an annual income of maybe $125,000 a year. That would make the money last all the way to age 100. That's a pretty good income. It's a lot more than many of her husband's ruined victims will have. But it will hardly support her past lifestyle. Mr. and Mrs. Madoff, according to court papers, owned homes in Manhattan, Montauk, N.Y., and Palm Beach, Fla., along with millions of dollars in furniture, art, furs, and the like. Sounds like she's going to have to do, on a bigger scale, what a lot of Americans are doing right now: Downsize. If Ruth Madoff spends a third of her $125,000 a year on accommodation, that will come to about $3,500 a month -- enough perhaps for a (modest) two bedroom in Manhattan, but nothing glamorous. It will rent more in Florida. Especially if she moves inland from Palm Beach -- to somewhere like Sunrise. The good news? There's an Ikea nearby. And lots of factory outlets. And in Florida she will be able to survive without her $36,000 Russian sable coat. As for cars: Mrs Madoff has to give up her Mercedes-Benz E class and CLK. But a brand new Mercedes SmartCar only costs about $14,000. As for investments: Mrs Madoff is 68. She will need income to live on for maybe 30 years or more. She's going to have to generate income to live on, and enough growth to keep up with inflation. That's going to mean a conservative mix of stocks and bonds. Among bonds, Treasurys look expensive. Even inflation protected Treasurys, so-called TIPS, are starting to look fully priced. And Mrs. Madoff would do well to avoid very long-term bonds. They are at risk from inflation. There are better opportunities in corporate debt, from investment grade to high yield. She might also look at tax-exempt municipals -- she can earn at least 3.5% tax-free without taking on too much inflation risk. She might even consider emerging market government bonds. If she wants stocks paying good income as well, Mrs. Madoff should be able to earn yields of about 4.5% a year right now without taking too much risk. Closed-end funds -- special mutual funds that trade like regular shares -- can be a great way to get equity income. That's because the funds themselves can sell at a big discount, which means you get more income for each dollar invested. The irony, of course, is that Mrs Madoff really needs right now a financial adviser she can trust to handle her money. |
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bitwrangler |
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How tough is it living off $2.5 million? Ruth Madoff is about to find out.
Jesus. She could live high on the hog in Williamson, West Virginia. I wonder who the next Madoff will be and who'll be his victims? LOL. P.T. Barnum: prescient. |
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B DeBrun |
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Up next: Nicholson and Stanford
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Bowie.thehole |
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Okay. Seriously. Just what exactly is this woman supposed to do or have done? Should she not have married her husband, or have donated all her share of income
to Africa babies? Is that what you all want? Or is she supposed to already have given away her couple of remaining million to, what, a select few families of
her own choice and be left to perish?
Do any of you realise that she is actually legally 100% innocent and her life has now been ruined by SOMEONE ELSE'S MISTAKE just like the other victims? Why isn't she entitled to her own money as compensation for the ridicule for much of the rest of her life she will now have to face?
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GlamsSlam |
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She was an "Administrator" in her husband's company and was quite joined at the hip with him. And while they may not have arrested her or her
sons for their role in this I doubt she was totally ignorant. Sorry this broad is involved.
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factoryhurl |
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do you realize that she worked for her husband's company and was more than likely complicit if not in his deeds then at least turning a blind eye? i am not
certain that she (and their two sons) will not end up being arrested once everything is unravelled.
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Bowie.thehole |
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GlamsSlam wrote: Well duh. There's nothing illegal about a really really rich man hiring his wife to boost family income. I'm pretty sure he was smart enough to pull that off lol. |
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Je Fa |
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He met a lot of his crooked connections through her father, who was also crooked. She was also his in-house accountant for forty years. Connect the dots.
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bitwrangler |
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LOL. She's damn lucky they left her with ANYTHING. And she's lucky she's not going to jail.
Almost everything they owned was the result of Bernie's thievery. It's not hers anymore. It's the justice department's... |
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factoryhurl |
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It was learned today that Bernie Madoff's wife, Ruth, withdrew some $10 million on Dec. 10, 2008, the day before her husband turned himself in to
authorities and confessed his financial empire was all one big $50 billion "lie."
The $10 million withdrawal came on top of a $5.5 million withdrawal on Nov. 25, both from Cohmad Securities, which is co-owned by Madoff, according to Massachusetts Secretary of State, which released the information. http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1878907,00.html Ruth Madoff, the wife of Wall Street swindler Bernard Madoff, received $2m (£1.4m) in payments from the family's London business less than a month before his arrest, further drawing her finances into criminal investigations on both sides of the Atlantic. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/ruth-madoff-took-2m-from-london-office-before-collapse-1656149.html Bernie Madoff's Secretary Spills His Secrets Vanity Fair May 5, 2009, 11:59 PM http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2009/05/bernie-madoffs-secretary-spills-his-secrets.html |
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GlamsSlam |
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Her punishment is having to go to Supercuts.
Please any woman who professes to be a true partner doesn't just blindly sign off on shit and neither did the sons. I would also like more info on the "golden" Fairchild or whatever their names are in Conn. That was an entire family apparently devoted to the Madoff scams. I feel no pity for these people. My ex was very duplicitous and it doesn't take anything to not sign shit... of course I was not afraid of losing it all for my principles. But then it ran in the family. |
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2old4MTV |
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Ruth is no newbie to this sneaky finance thing. She knows exactly what her husband has been doing all along. That $10million withdrawal wasn't the only
secret money. She's got to have accounts all over, or family holding money for her. She won't be suffering on the measly $2.5 million. She has other
money. Plus, she can write about book about how "shocked" she was to find about her husband's scheme and go on Oprah.
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donbrasco4 |
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If you guys have time, check out the PBS Frontline episode on Madoff http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/madoff/
They had interviews with some of the feeder fund executives, who believed their account statements printed on dot-matrix printers were bonafide. Fairfield Greenwich managed billions and they entrusted their clients money to those statements. Awesome. |
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Atomic Plunger |
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