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Pseudo Propaganda |
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I love how the British are getting their panties all twisted up in a wad now.
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Doobie Screw |
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Just a quick question. Why are the "Where is my vote?" signs in english? Is english a fairly common language spoken in Iran, or is it something
more symbolic?
-Mostly for Pseudo, since I saw him posting recently |
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Charming Nemesis |
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Message to the world. They want support. This is about more than the two candidates now. It's expanded to a challenge of the theocracy.
This is never mentioned, but it could be that Bush's goal in the middle east might be bearing fruit. Fragile democracies have been established to the east of Iran in Afghanistan, and to the west in Iraq. The seeds of this may be subliminally growing in Iran. Sort of 'if they can have it, why can't we?' |
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memyselfandi |
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Charming Nemesis wrote: Oh yes, I'm sure Mr. "axis of evil" really changed a lot of minds in Iran. They had no idea their regime was evilly oppressive til then. I'm sure what is happening on the streets of Tehran is all about Bush's bangup job of democracy building and regime change in Iraq and it has nothing to do with Obama's election, his speech to the Iranian people during Nowruz and his most recent Cairo speech. I will give Bush credit at least though for putting his foot down and not listening to Cheney and the neocon warmongers who wanted to give Israel the go-ahead to bomb the shit out of Iran and start Armageddon. I think if that had been the case we'd definitely have a lot more standard Death to America chanting from the crowds of whom some are reportedly chanting Death to Khameini today. |
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unkle greggo |
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Doobie Screw wrote: Photoshop |
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squashthebeef |
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I think it's standard for most middle eastern signs to be in english. I recall that Iraqi baby milk factory signs are also written in english and amazingly
bombproof.
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unkle greggo |
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squashthebeef wrote: No, last night on the news they were talking about how they being photoshopped and put online. |
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memyselfandi |
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Last night on what news?
And did they also report the GAP and Calvin Klein logos were photoshopped onto the pictures of the protesters? |
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unkle greggo |
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memyselfandi wrote: It was on NPR. There my secret shame is out now. Happy? |
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ohboy |
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ok, wait we're dismissing them bc we they're not for as much change as we want? how do you know? you want they should do write-in ballots?
too funny we think we're so much better. yeah, those tea-baggers who gave up their lunch hours to bitch that their taxes are too high are real revolutionaries. pix from today: http://www.demotix.com/news/running-battles-iran-battle-reaches-climax http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/20/saturday-updates-on-irans-disputed-election/ |
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PassionatePiscesMan |
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Iranians should take their voting issues to ACORN
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ohboy |
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mousavi just now called for the vote to be annulled, so he's not stepping aside.
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Phuz1 |
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This is precisely why it's important Obama stay quiet. If he were to speak out, the Islamic militants would read it as a signal from the U.S. to overthrow their government. They would blame us for their unrest in the same way we blamed the Saudis Taliban Iraqis for 9/11. If democracy is to take hold in Iran, it has to come from their people, not ours. |
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scottfreek |
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Charming Nincompoop ;-) wrote: umm... what HAS been mentioned this week (even by some Repugnicans) is "The Obama Effect" ... sorta like how Hezbollah was leading the pre-election polls in Lebanon, only to be defeated shortly after Obama's Cairo speech. I really have no idea whether Obama's made a huge difference, but he has undeniably had some impact. Not that I'd ever expect Vicc to acknowledge this. That said, only 3000 or so (very brave) Iranians showed-up in defiance of their Supreme Leader (Diana Ross?) today. It may be that we'll look back on
this week as the beginning of the end of their Theocracy, but for the moment it still seems to be firmly in control.
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nomii |
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This is never mentioned, but it could be that Bush's goal in the middle east might be bearing fruit. Fragile democracies have been established to the east of Iran in Afghanistan, and to the west in Iraq. The seeds of this may be subliminally growing in Iran. Sort of 'if they can have it, why can't we?'its never mentioned because this is a nutjob idea. no one in the middle east considers iraq or afghanistans to be democracies, but US-occupied territories. |
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ohboy |
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they're saying this protest is from today:
Update | 1:11 p.m. The Iranian-American Web site Tehran Bureau reports that Iran's Press TV is "reportedly showing YouTube footage of what it called "today's rally." Several news organizations, including CNN, the BBC and The Guardian have pointed to this YouTube video which was uploaded on Saturday, with a caption saying that it shows a rally in Tehran today: The Revolution will be twittered? |
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Pseudo Propaganda |
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Doobie Screw wrote:Yeah it is standard for Iranian college students to learn English as a second language. Has been for years. |
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ohboy |
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ok, this is whole thing is astounding. the government has shut out the media, but people's messages and images are still getting to the outside world. who knew facebook and twitter would change the world? Update | 1:45 p.m. CNN has aired some very disturbing, graphic video uploaded to Facebook on Saturday, which appears to show a young woman who has been shot, bleeding profusely. A reader of The Lede writes to say that he was present when this video was shot and describes it like this: this is the video. i think i see the woman dying. http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1149602027692
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06/20/09 11:58 AM.
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The Truth Hurts |
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Another disturbing video of the revolutionary guard and militia beating women with batons.
At one point he just beats an old woman with his baton while the man screams for him not to in the background. http://www.facebook.com/v...1188064018930&ref=nf It's unbelievable. I'm of Iranian descent, my parents were born there, and so it's heartbreaking to see this, but at the same time, I hope that these riots and protests continue, because it'll lead to the eventual overthrow of this government. |
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The Truth Hurts |
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ohboy wrote: An extended video of the same thing: http://www.facebook.com/v...v=89928823259&ref=mf |
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