Harper's Island--Decent Summer Slasher

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billhill		#3741	[-]
Posts: 23 (06/16/09 7:39 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	There have been the requisite (at least three that I have seen) troll "I know 'blah blah blah that lives with blah blah's sister who screws blah's at CBS and "it was revealed to me personally and only me who the killer is" threads at the CBS website and it is scary how many buy it. I want to scream from the roof top how pissed I am that we still have to wait four weeks to settle this nonsense. Well three and two days as of now. I don't have a good feeling that we will be satisfied with the outcome.
LPMA		#3742	[-]
Posts: 4294 (06/16/09 7:54 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't have a good feeling that we will be satisfied with the outcome. I doubt we will either. The way the show has been going since the start, I'm expecting a rushed conclusion with lots of questions left unanswered and plot holes.
Kenneth		#3743	[-]
Posts: 1986 (06/16/09 7:59 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well, it's always impossible to please everyone, so inevitably the ending is going to be a let down for some. Some people have said Maggie being the killer would be disappointing, while for me it would make the most sense. On the other hand Henry being the killer, which has a lot of supporters, would be really disappointing for me. Whatever the ending, I just hope it doesn't involve the killer being in two places at once like two of the three Clue endings. (since were talking about Clue so much)
Simdog11		#3744	[-]
Posts: 261 (06/16/09 8:01 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kenneth wrote: Well, it's always impossible to please everyone, so inevitably the ending is going to be a let down for some. Some people have said Maggie being the killer would be disappointing, while for me it would make the most sense. On the other hand Henry being the killer, which has a lot of supporters, would be really disappointing for me. Whatever the ending, I just hope it doesn't involve the killer being in two places at once like two of the three Clue endings. (since were talking about Clue so much) Agreed with everything he said. Some people will be let dow n. Maggie as the killer is cool, Henry is not. Explain alibi inconsistencies if there are any.
Nods		#3745	[-]
Posts: 4745 (06/16/09 8:02 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The other thing you have to look at with Cal is the fact that he is a somewhat established actor. One of my first posts here was that the killer was going to be one of the two more established actors (Richard Brugi or Adam Campbell). Brugi was Mr. Wellington and has been a working actor for years and he left Desperate Housewives to be on the show, Campbell is an actor from all of those terrible "spoof" films. Actors tend to get clearence on a 1,3,7,9,13 episode order. Hamlin died during the first episode, Brugi(Mr. Wellington) died on the 6th, Campbell will make it to the end.
tmaxx		#3746	[-]
Posts: 143 (06/16/09 8:04 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	How about this... Cousin Ben knew a secret about Henry or Trish (Wakefield's child) and he is blackmailing someone Uncle Marty's $250 000 is for the blackmailer Henry kills the blackmailer and Uncle Marty so that the secret won't be revealed Last Edited By: tmaxx 06/16/09 8:08 PM. Edited 1 times.
Tiki Lou		#3747	[-]
Posts: 507 (06/16/09 8:06 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Drew B wrote: Tiki Lou wrote: I'm hanging on to Cal as the killer. As people have mentioned before he has the medical knowledge to slice and dice, the wiry frame to fit in those crawlspaces, the girlfriend who loves serial killers, and smart enough to do it. As Chloe said, he always thinks of everything. Also, when Chloe pretends to drown and Cal is all frantic, he displayed a violent side when he almost drowned her. That thought has never left me. All my chips on the good doctor (until he dies) IF this turns out to be the case, I just hope they have a damned good explanation for how he got away from Chloe/Beth/Sully long enough to take a detour inland to Cole Harkin's cabin, kill him, and still make it down to the marina in time to almost sail away (before changing his mind and staying for Madison's sake). I can buy the idea that Cal was able to get out of the trap for long enough to kill somebody (I don't recall if it was Lucy or Fain or both), but for the Cole Harkin murder, he doesn't seem to have been alone at all... I'm going with the arrows as an automatic trap... yeah, right... I got nothing But as this point all the main characters have some type of alibi for one or more of the deaths. Does someone have a list of the wherabouts of each suspect during each murder? If not I may have to do it for my own personal satisfaction (plus I got off work tomorrow and the rain is preventing me from being outside) I agree that no matter what, it will be an unsatisying ending. All this great foreplay and then... a botched orgasm But if Maggie is the killer, then the producers were right: 1/3 will be like "I KNEW IT!", 1/3 will be like "Who the fuck is that fat bitch?", and 1/3 will turn off their TVs and stick their heads in the oven
AlwaysAwesomeAdam		#3748	[-]
Posts: 3194 (06/16/09 8:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	tmaxx wrote: How about this... Cousin Ben knew a secret about Henry or Trish (Wakefield's child) and he is blackmailing someone Uncle Marty's $250 000 is for the blackmailer Henry kills the blackmailer and Uncle Marty so that the secret won't be revealed Here's some food for thought. Uncle Marty was carrying the bag of money with the gun to the beach. Maybe whoever he was bringing the money too was the killer. It was somebody he didn't trust fully and brought the gun for protection. The killer knew he was coming and rigged the bridge and then effectively killed Uncle Marty. The only person Uncle Marty would have trusted to not bring a gun would be Henry and JD.
Mystery Buff	Another "Ten Little Indians" corollary	#3749	[-]
Posts: 46 (06/16/09 8:24 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	tmaxx wrote: How about this... Cousin Ben knew a secret about Henry or Trish (Wakefield's child) and he is blackmailing someone Uncle Marty's $250 000 is for the blackmailer Henry kills the blackmailer and Uncle Marty so that the secret won't be revealed In "Ten Little Indians," the killer choose his victims because of crimes that he thought they got away with and he wanted to make sure to punish them. The crimes were listed as "you...": caused the death, responsible for the death, brought about the death, killed [outright], guilty of the deaths of 21 people, deliberately sent someone to his death, guilty of the murder (2 deaths), brought about the death (2 deaths). Maybe the killer is punishing people that are committing crimes (against Wakefield?). Blackmail (or even contract murder, paid for by Uncle Marty) would be crimes. Someone pages back suggested something similar.
AlwaysAwesomeAdam		#3750	[-]
Posts: 3195 (06/16/09 8:25 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Mystery Buff wrote: tmaxx wrote: How about this... Cousin Ben knew a secret about Henry or Trish (Wakefield's child) and he is blackmailing someone Uncle Marty's $250 000 is for the blackmailer Henry kills the blackmailer and Uncle Marty so that the secret won't be revealed In "Ten Little Indians," the killer choose his victims because of crimes that he thought they got away with and he wanted to make sure to punish them. The crimes were listed as "you...": caused the death, responsible for the death, brought about the death, killed [outright], guilty of the deaths of 21 people, deliberately sent someone to his death, guilty of the murder (2 deaths), brought about the death (2 deaths). Maybe the killer is punishing people that are committing crimes (against Wakefield?). Blackmail (or even contract murder, paid for by Uncle Marty) would be crimes. Someone pages back suggested something similar. He killed in order of the severity of the crimes. The worser the crime in his eyes the longer he left them alive so they could suffer every hour with the fact they may be next.
Mystery Buff		#3751	[-]
Posts: 47 (06/16/09 8:25 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	AlwaysAwesomeAdam wrote: tmaxx wrote: How about this... Cousin Ben knew a secret about Henry or Trish (Wakefield's child) and he is blackmailing someone Uncle Marty's $250 000 is for the blackmailer Henry kills the blackmailer and Uncle Marty so that the secret won't be revealed Here's some food for thought. Uncle Marty was carrying the bag of money with the gun to the beach. Maybe whoever he was bringing the money too was the killer. It was somebody he didn't trust fully and brought the gun for protection. The killer knew he was coming and rigged the bridge and then effectively killed Uncle Marty. The only person Uncle Marty would have trusted to not bring a gun would be Henry and JD. Good point.
Tom2433		#3752	[-]
Posts: 405 (06/16/09 8:36 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Cal would seem pretty logical as the killer to me, as far as his medical knowledge, his body structure and his serial-killer-obsessed girlfriend... but the fact that he spent all of the last episode in the hospital is almost enough to eliminate him for me. How could he have possibly killed Beth and Katherine? Unless the hospital connected to the tunnel system somehow, and unless Katherine's death was booby trapped... But Cole's death throws it off too. I doubt the arrows were a trap since they so precisely hit Cole, and the second one nailed him right in the heart.
Mystery Buff		#3753	[-]
Posts: 48 (06/16/09 9:02 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I can't imagine what "crime" Abby committed for this to be "all about" her and for the killer to go through all this trouble. Some deaths are well-planned, some seem to be random, some are convenient. I guess I don't care as long as it all MAKES SENSE in the end. I do enjoy everyone's comments, though.
VolumeOn		#3754	[-]
Posts: 1343 (06/16/09 9:04 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't think it was the sheriff grabbing Abby in the tunnel. He didn't leave the clinic on his own, but the killer forced him to leave. Otherwise, why take the oxygen tank? More likely, the killer forced him to leave and take the oxygen tank to rig him up as a bomb. Hence his "don't come near me, Abby" in the previews.
cabanachat		#3755	[-]
Posts: 3105 (06/16/09 9:04 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	the arguments for it being Cal are not entirely worthless. still think it's Maggie, though. and most def whatever the ending is will suck.
April R		#3756	[-]
Posts: 7460 (06/16/09 9:06 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I like reading what everyone has to say but some of the analysis some of you guys are doing is crazy. I hope those of you way into this won't be terribly disappointed at the end.
Tiki Lou		#3757	[-]
Posts: 508 (06/16/09 9:16 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	April R wrote: I like reading what everyone has to say but some of the analysis some of you guys are doing is crazy. I hope those of you way into this won't be terribly disappointed at the end. Don't worry, we will
pushingjate		#3758	[-]
Posts: 3130 (06/16/09 9:21 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I was sticking to either Henry/Jimmy as the killer, but I guess Cal/Chloe are looking quite suspicious. They also had the whole engagement sub-storyline. Maybe it's nothing, maybe it's more. I give up.
tmaxx		#3759	[-]
Posts: 144 (06/16/09 9:27 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Tom2433 wrote: Cal would seem pretty logical as the killer to me, as far as his medical knowledge, his body structure and his serial-killer-obsessed girlfriend... but the fact that he spent all of the last episode in the hospital is almost enough to eliminate him for me. Cal could have left the hospital and then returned Cal is weak and wimpy- killing people makes him feel strong Uncle Marty danced and flirted with Chloe??? - Last Edited By: tmaxx 06/16/09 9:29 PM. Edited 1 times.
Mateui		#3760	[-]
Posts: 2518 (06/16/09 9:32 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I can't believe for one minute that such minor characters like Maggie or Nikkie or even Cal could be the killer. The writers will obviously want us to have a WTF moment at the end, and not 'Who is that?!'. I think that they'll show us how this character went about each killing, and I just can't see them using completely new footage - the most logical execution of this is to show previous footage and add onto it. For example, if Henry is the killer (yes, I still think it's him), then it would make sense to show a scene with him in it that we've witnessed before, and then show him killing another character and getting back to another scene which we've already seen, to tie it all up. If there's no footage there of the killer in the first place the explanation won't be as satisfying, and I have to believe that writers will make it as satisfying as possible (and that the killer will have had significant airtime throughout the show).

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