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How long was he in practice? If he was in practice 20 years that means he did an average of 8 abortions per day, 365 days a year.
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merkyl |
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Volume, volume, volume!
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buckitex |
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PassionatePiscesMan wrote: Seriously? I'm pretty sure Hitler and his gang killed 5-6 million jews during the holocaust. |
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hamdingers |
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I hate these kinds of threads because I can never keep track of who's being intentionally fucking stupid for humorous effect and who's just actually
that fucking stupid.
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StarrEise |
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Yeah...but they were Jews. I mean, c'mon.
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Simone |
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I see there are others in this thread from Wichita, just about the reddest city in the nation. Dr. Tiller's murder has certainly energized a lot of
sleeping feminists, liberals, democrats and just plain caring people. Roeder made Dr. Tiller a martyr for the cause. Believe me, Dr. Tiller's clinic will
remain open and no "babies" were saved by this tragic act.
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Kurthi76 |
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ohboy wrote: Right you are, Holder would rather let the nut jobs stand outside polling places and intimidate voters who don't share their radical beliefs. |
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PassionatePiscesMan |
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Holder should round up all the pro-lifers and put them into GITMO as terrorists. Obama won't have to close it down. I bet they will use enhanced
interrogation methods to get info
Under Nazi German laws Jews lost all rights just like the fetus today has none
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CBRetriever |
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next you're gonna be saying dogs, cats and ferrets have rights too
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Bonestripper |
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Dr. Tiller's clinic will remain open and no "babies" will be saved by the tragic act of abortion
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Pahrump Mania |
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Bonestripper wrote:Hey, Nice Call I would like to know something. Is it really that hard for a woman to get a medically neccesary abortion? And by medically neccesary I mean life of the mother, or serious damage to the mother. If it is then I would assume there are examples of women who have died because they didn't get a third trimester abortion. Without any evidence I have to assume that Tiller's critics are right, that he performed late term abortions for bullshit reasons. |
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CBRetriever |
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Pahrump - it seems to be impossible to search for that information - all I get is women who died from botched abortions (illegal for the most part) and women
who died during childbirth
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Pahrump Mania |
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That's my problem, the Pro-Life side presents a bunch of horror stories, and the Pro-Choice side screams for their rights. While anecdotal evidence is
usually weak and you have to consider the source, the Pro-Choice side doesn't even offer that. And there's a pretty good reason why the Pro-Life side
doesn't have better evidence, Tiller dragged his feet on proving that he complied with the law. So barring any evidence to the contrary I have to assume
that Tiller was aborting late term babies for reasons that went beyond saving the mother's life.
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CBRetriever |
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I don't assume that
I just think that's an unreported statistic or so buried in all the anti and pro abortion google results that you can't find it And I'm not sure most of the mothers who get a late term abortion would be willing to come forward and share their stories, especially the ones who had to have one due to the foetus dying in the womb or their being unable due to health reasons to carry a baby to term. It seems to me, that if a woman waits that long, she's usually expecting to carry the baby to full term and only circumstances are causing her to make that decision. I know of at least two women who were diagnosed with cancer during their pregnancies and were unable to get treatment until after they'd delivered the baby - in both cases, the women died within a year or less of giving birth. Who knows if they'd have lived full lives if they'd had an abortion and gotten immediate treatment (one had breast cancer that spread throughout her body later on). And the DNC procedure is also used to remove dead foetuses that die in the womb and are not expelled as in a miscarriage. |
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Shagnanigans |
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oh abortion debate, this is new! I'm sure everyone is behaving themselves and no outrageous fucking rhetoric is being spouted.
and btw, if you're a man, your opinion on abortion is barely relevant, when you get down to it. Your support is nice but you know...it's going to happen or not whether you want a baby or abortion. Sucks to be powerless, doesn't it? As powerless as a little baby being pulled helplessly toward a vacuum. |
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Pahrump Mania |
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So most abortion doctors and/or regular obgyns won't abort a baby when the mother's life is in danger? Honestly, I'm just asking. And I also knew
of a woman who got pregnant and then was diagnosed with cancer, she made the decision to carry the baby to full term, and later died. I wouldnt oppose abortion
in that case.
And why was Tiller in particular singled out? He's the only abortion doctor I knew by name before he was killed. Some accuse him of being the go-to guy when you wanted a late term abortion and you didn't have a compelling medical reason for one. I don't assume that it was a heart wrenching decision for all 60,000 women on whom he performed an abortion, but if someone wants to present some evidence, maybe in the upcoming murder trial, that he performed medically necesssary (saving the woman's life, not for "psychological reasons" as some have said) abortions then I may be persuaded that my assumptions are wrong about him. |
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merkyl |
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As powerless as a little baby being pulled helplessly toward a vacuum.Its tiny arms flailing everso? |
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factoryhurl |
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so, even though tiller was doing frivolous late term abortion and it's legal, a man killed him in cold blood at church, in front of his wife for
doing something legal, and you think that the murder trial should really be a trial about validity of legal abortions the murdered doctor was performing and
not the fact that he killed a guy? that is some great thinking there.
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Charming Nemesis |
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It's not legal in Tiller's state to do frivolous abortions after 21 weeks or something like that. Frivolous means not legal.
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factoryhurl |
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what don't you get about what i posted? and once again, why are you so involved in what goes on in the u.s. and why do you care so much?
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