srvivrfreakevelrich wrote:
I agree with Quid. This is gonna be a pretty damn good list if the FUcking stick gets an Honuorable Mention.
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srvivrfreakevelrich wrote: LOL and X |
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spnintendo |
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chapera rocks wrote:*shudders* No tribe will ever top Timbira in stupidity. |
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survivorisdabest |
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lol @ "Truckfucker" as a nickname
yeah Flicka/Cao Boi weren pretty dumb |
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Kirblar |
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Thailandsurvivor wrote:Keeping two people in the game who hate your guts is good strategy? |
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JackSparrowBauer |
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CI would've been so much more interesting if Cao Boi and Flicka had brains...
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solesurvivor01 |
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Oh Truck targeting Chet post swap was undoubtedly a mistake as well (and it'll certainly be popping up on here), but his pre swap strategy wasn't so
great either. A swap is not inevitable, especially since the other two seasons with 20 people didn't have swaps (although CI did have a tribal dissolve),
and even if there was one, there was no guarantee that his former tribe mates would stay loyal to him.
The main point is that if Truck was going to isolate three members of his tribe (the three weakest in challenges), then at least vote them off. By going for Mikey/the other girl (not to be confused with THAT girl |
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solesurvivor01 wrote:If Joel didn't target Chet at the swap, do you really think Chet and Tracy would have targetted him after he saved them? Hell no. They may have felt like outcasts, but Tracy knew what she was doing strategically. She knew it was important for the fans to stick together at that point in the game. It would have not been better to vote out Chet and Kathy and leave Tracy by herself as the lone outcast. That happens, and she is guarrentee to flip. With Chet and Kathy still in the game, there was much better odds of them sticking with the fans. Jason may have been on the outs, but Joel knew he was a strategic retard. There was a good chance he would be sticking with the fans no matter what. Again, Joel screwed up majorily by targetting Chet at the swap, but you can't say the favorites were really superior players when they would have done the EXACT SAME THING over on Airai. It was Jonathan and Eliza vs. Parvati and James. Besides, it's not like anyone could have expected Chet and Kathy would quit/be MedEvaced (yes, Chet was leaving anyways, and I will be ticked off if him not voting with Ami, Tracy, and Erik is on this list.) I do not see the problem with Joel doing that pre swap when there had been a tribal swap in each of the last 5 seasons. Saying Joel shouldn't have expected a swap is the same thing as saying Cirie should have expected a final two. Edited for spelling
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Thailandsurvivor wrote:Yes, I really do think that Chet and Tracy would have turned, at least if they had a decent chance to. It was obvious that Truck hated them, and he only "saved" them temporarily, so in the very short term, they might have stuck together, but the elders are out to get him. As I just said, as soon as they were given a chance, there's no doubt in my mind that the elders would turn on Truck. I don't know when that could have been, but the fact that he helped alienate these people and kept them around is not a good thing, and it never is. I don't exactly get what you mean by saying Jason is on the outs, though. He wasn't really on the outs, but the elders hated him because he was a douche. Was Joel retarded to turn on Chet post swap? Absolutely. I can't think of any reason to defend that move, and make no mistake, it will show up eventually. But I wasn't referring to the post swap favorites on Airai (which is something else, all together), but just the fact that pre swap Airai was one of the most dysfunctional tribes ever. Even when Malakal was going through it's power struggle between the Fourgy and JAYE, they were still able to win challenges. The favorites targeted the weaker people on their tribe like Fairplay, Yau-Man, Parvati, and Eliza (although she is actually good in challenges, but she was deathly sick in the second week or so). Saying expecting a swap is like expecting a final two is ridiculous. Tribal dissolves are not tribal swaps, and you could just as easily think that this would be the season without a tribal swap, especially since it was Fans vs. Favorites, not Fans and Favorites. Regardless, even if there is a swap, he would have no idea when it could be, so if Airai continued losing challenges after the Mikey boot, his tribe could have turned on him, easily. We've seen alphamales go down premerge/preswap, such as Hunter, Ryan, and Burton, for exerting too much power. And also, Tracy may have had a brain, but if he got stuck on a tribe with Kathy or Chet (or both), it still only takes one vote to send his ass home. Bottom line is Mikey could have been de-throned later, and Truck's focus that early on in the game should have been to pwn the favorites in challenges. |
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Have some more entries...
63. Sandra votes for Jon at the F8. Quote: "WHERE IS THAT SNAKE, MOTHERFUCKER JON?!" -Sandra Diaz-Twine As much as I <3 Sandra and feel she's underrated, this was not smart at all. Earlier in this episode, Sandra overheard Burton and Jon discussing the possibility of blindsiding Rupert. Shortly after that, Lill and Jon went on a reward together, isolating them from everyone else, but when Lill came back, Rupert talked to Lill and she swore that she was going to stick with him. So, by this logic, if Sandra/Christa/Rupert are going to vote together, then all they would need is Lill's vote to force a tie just in case Burton and Jon voted for Rupert with Darrah and Tijuana. Unfortunately, though, Sandra decided to throw a warning vote at Jon, which is pretty WTF, seeing as her vote would be necessary to save Rupert in this situation. However, Lill ended up voting for Rupert, so he went home anyways, but that doesn't excuse the fact that Sandra almost got Rupert "J is for Jenna'd." In a rather similar situation, only a few seasons later, we have...
62. Todd does not vote for Peih Gee at the F7, meaning that he could go home if James used a HII. Quote: "I'm scared for my life." -Todd Herzog Todd played a pretty flawless game, IMO, but this was his one major (though inconsequential) mistake. This was the last time that Todd's alliance would be able to vote out James before the final four because of his multiple immunity idols. Everyone knows the rules of what happens when one gets played: the person with the second highest number of votes gets the boot. Naturally, since there were two people in the minority, two votes were probably going to Todd, the leader of the majority alliance. With James' vote for Peih Gee, if Todd voted for Peih Gee, then she would have two votes as well, ensuring that there was a tie for the second number of votes (and Peih Gee would go home in a revote). This is where things get tricky, though. I'd like to take this time to first give out several honorable mentions. First, to James himself, for having some sort of (unaired) explosion at Peih Gee and Erik. Apparently he wanted to prove his loyalty to his alliance (and this did SO much for him So yeah, if it had not been for some additional stupidity (and of course, the obvious stupid move will appear later), Todd could have been sent home by not casting a defensive vote. Spliting the vote while trying to blindside someone with a HII is generally a good idea. |
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Lol weren't there conspiracy theories that Sandra wanted Rupert out too? =O
I hope Erik voting for James is on the list too. |
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If what you said was true about James' outburst at Erik/Peih-Gee, I don't see why it would have been smart of them to go to James, especially if they
weren't 100% confident that James was going. If James was so loyal to his alliance that he was willing to throw fake-outbursts, he probably wouldn't
have taken Erik & Peih-Gee's word for it. He would have gone to his alliance with what he word, then they would have changed the plan, and Peih-Gee
goes.
I agree that the way the voting went down was dumb, even if it ended up not effecting anyone other than James, anyway |
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SP! Did you even read the write up for the Todd one? I gave out a few honorable mentions.
ETA: I see what you mean, Mike, but I mainly just blame them for not doing anything. All that really happened was Peih Gee said she was voting for Todd, hoping that James would play an idol. And if Erik had done so as well, and James played an idol, then maybe James wouldn't have been so trusting of his alliance anymore. Peih Gee/Erik just kind of sit there and let things happen, meaning that they kind of settled to being the next two boots.
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Lmao, I really only just read the titles.
I'm a fraud. *cries* |
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Erik refusing to vote for Todd at F7 should be on this list AND much higher
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62 should either be much higher of 5 different entries. You forgot to give an honorable mention to Amanda for yelling at PG and telling her that James was
leaving.
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Considering the amount of stupidity we've seen in Survivor history, I see no problem with where 62 is. It's still part of the "would'a,
could'a, should'a" inconsequential moves, and I'll be moving out of those for the most part in a little bit. I don't really consider what
Amanda did to be that stupid, though. She didn't tell Peih Gee that they were blindsiding James. She only told Peih Gee not to do anything, which, if
anything, could mean that Peih Gee was going home, and Amanda didn't want her scrambling. From what I understand, Peih Gee thought blindsiding James may
have been their plan, but probably not. Still though, she should have either tried to tell James that he might be going or do some other type of scrambling.
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Are you sure? I could have sworn she told PG that James was leaving (or at least that PG was safe).
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She said something like "What you need to do is not do anything." And that doesn't really mean jack to Peih Gee, if you think about it. I
remember Amanda did NOT specifically say "You're safe," "We're blindsiding James," or something to give Peih Gee that specific
impression.
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I don't remember Amanda saying "we're blindsiding James" either. I just remember her telling Peih-Gee the best thing to do was not to say
anything. She obviously figured it out somehow. I was very disappointed that Peih-Gee didn't tell James, though...
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According to Todd, Amanda was only willing to go through with the blindside of James if they all voted for him =O Just like the Sandra/Rupert conspiracies,
maybe she secretly wanted Todd to go instead of James.
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