Loved the little bit I saw of season 2 - I didn't have showtime or the CBC where I was living... but saw some during a trip to the Michigan area where
someone has it on their TiVo from the CBC (at least I think that's how they got it.) Has anyone bought the DVDs? I saw some for sale on-line but in the
comments folks said they had no closed captioning. I usually need to leave that on; my TV and hearing both suck and when people mumble I can't hear a
thing and need CC.
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The Tudors returns 2009 on Showtime
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Posts: 3014 (05/18/09 9:38 PM) A subnic, please |
Have you guys stopped watching?
I think Joss Stone did a credible job as Anne. One of my favorite books "Divorced Beheaded Survived" theorized that she was probably repulsed by him with his stinky leg and roll of fat. Tudor propaganda couldn't have anyone disgusted by god's chosen king. Stone conveyed the vulnerability. bewilderment and fear that Anne must have felt. Strange country, not comfortable with the language and knowing what happened to the wives Henry didn't care for. |
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Posts: 1017 (05/18/09 9:57 PM) |
lol when ann mentioned henry's stanky leg
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Posts: 189 (05/18/09 10:02 PM) Registered user |
I can totally get why AoC would find Henry repulsive ( fat, smelly, 25 years her senior Henry) but after watching HornDog JRM's Henry chase anything in
skirts, it's hard to imagine why he couldn't "close his eyes and think of England". Esp as Joss Stone is attractive, it's hard to
believe that Henry would find her repugnant.
I recently read The Boleyn Inheritance and its author describes an ugly first meeting between the two; Henry arrives in masque, comes up and kisses virginal Anne who naturally rejects what seems to her to be a vulgar old peasant - not realizing that he's the king. Henry for the first time is forced to see himself how he really is and his subsequent behavior is an acting out of the thought that "she doesn't like me/I don't like her either". Would seem to make a lot more sense, esp. since Showtime's not playing Henry as old and fat or Anne as fugly. |
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Posts: 432 (05/19/09 3:12 AM) Registered User |
Anne Boleyn wrote:I'm still watching. It's been pretty easy for me to fall out the loop since I've been watching the episodes in advance from my On Demand and the season is only 8 episodes. Interesting how Anne of Cleves is supposed to be homely but like Henry's appearance, they keeping most of the characters CW'ed. Joss Stone does a great job as Anne of Cleves. I hope they give her a couple of more cameos in Season 4, but I'm not betting on it. I do not like the girl they've got for Catherine Howard but she's going to the chopping block anyway. |
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Evil Jungle Princess |
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Posts: 190 (05/19/09 11:39 AM) Registered user |
Cheer up - perhaps they'll change actresses over the break (a la Jane). Since wives are so disposable for Henry, what's a cast change here or there? |
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Posts: 3017 (05/19/09 12:33 PM) A subnic, please |
You really only have Henry's word that she was homely. The portrait says otherwise. They say her complexion suffered from the sea journey to get there,
but she is the best looking of all of them. There is no documented portrait of Katherine Howard though.
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Posts: 433 (05/19/09 1:57 PM) Registered User |
Evil Jungle Princess wrote:True. But I wouldn't be bothered too much if they didn't. Makes it easier for me to watch her die. When Natalie Dormer's Anne Boleyn died, it was heartbreaking, so Showtime nailed the casting on that. I suppose they changed the actress for Jane Seymour to make her more angelic considering the circumstances of her death. The original actress for Jane always seemed slightly cross-eyed and dumbfounded. I watched the 1971 production of The Wives of Henry VIII; the Howard family was portrayed as cutthroat and ruthless. There's a scene where her uncle, Thomas Norfolk basically tells her that the family will not rescue her and the get ready to die. (Catherine asks for a chopping block in her cell to practice on.)
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Posts: 434 (05/19/09 1:59 PM) Registered User |
Anne Boleyn wrote: Yes, it seems what men, or specifically Henry considered beautiful was pretty ambiguous. Anne Boleyn wasn't considered beautiful in the tradition of the English rose; she allegedly had dark eyes and olive skin but was able to charm Henry with her wit. (Edited to so as not to imply that dark eyes and olive skin is ugly, only that Anne Boleyn wasn't necessarily the faired-skinned/light eyed portrayed in the Tudors).
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Posts: 35635 (05/19/09 2:22 PM) Registered user |
Well Anne Boleyn was like the book version of Scarlett O'Hara-"Scarlett O'Hara was not beautiful, but men seldom realized it when caught by her charms as the Tarleton Twins were" |
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Xhosa1980 |
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Posts: 436 (05/19/09 4:03 PM) Registered User |
ginaf20697 wrote:I'm reading Allison Weir's biography of Elizabeth I and apparently, Elizabeth was cut from the same cloth as her mother...dark eyes, red hair and not a startling beauty, but she was a very intelligent and witty woman who gave men a run for their money. |
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Posts: 35636 (05/19/09 4:16 PM) Registered user |
One good thing about this episode-it makes Henry seem as psychotic as he should be.
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Posts: 191 (05/19/09 10:09 PM) Registered user |
Thoughts on whether Anne Boleyn's Hot Uncle Norfolk will make a return next season? (since he's Catherine Howard's Unc too)
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Posts: 35641 (05/20/09 4:56 AM) Registered user |
God I hope so...<3
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Posts: 35718 (05/23/09 1:01 PM) Registered user |
For some reason I woke up thinking of this. You know how we all know that Henry should be big fat Henry right now? I was thinking that in the series finale they could reveal that he really WAS big fat Henry. Henry was supposed to have gotten a little crazy at the end. Maybe he just sees himself as still being a young hot thing but is really a nasty old slob. And maybe show some of big fat Henry interacting with his wives how things REALLY were as opposed to how he saw it in his crazy mind. It would be interesting. |
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Posts: 446 (05/23/09 1:23 PM) Registered User |
I kinda think that after Catherine Howard gets the axe, they'll start showing Henry in decline (Henry only lived 7 years after her death.) It seems
Michael Hirst is using Henry's leg is a metaphor for how decrepit and corrupt Henry's soul has become and not the obesity.
As far as finale endings, I'm hoping that as Henry nears death the ghosts of all the people he sent to their deaths come by and give him a going away party to hell. |
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Posts: 35719 (05/23/09 1:27 PM) Registered user |
The whole Katherine Howard situation sort of loses it's context though with Henry still looking hot. She was screwing around with a younger guy after all.
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Posts: 448 (05/23/09 1:38 PM) Registered User |
ginaf20697 wrote:Yeah, but I think that's where the stank leg comes in. Maybe they'll give Hal a few grey hairs and a slight beer gut. He might even be (Dog forbid) unable to get it up in the sack for Catherine. In the final episode she's definitely portrayed as a young lass who has cultivated a sexual appetite. |
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Posts: 11367 (05/24/09 8:18 PM) The Real American Psycho |
Loved whiny assed Cromwell getting a drunk henchman with a dull blade. AWESOME.
Anne of Cleves got the best deal out of all of Henry's wives, they remained close friends and she got to live how she pleased. |
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Posts: 405 (05/24/09 9:07 PM) Registered user |
I've got a ring or two I'd love to show Catherine Howard.
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