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Posts: 10657 (05/14/09 9:53 PM) MESS Moderator |
Excellent job Trix. Hey RB!
JT doesn't have to worry who he takes to the F2, and no one else is winning a challenge. He'll most likely stay loyal to Stephen. But Debbie as clearly told us they had no idea Stephen was that strategic.
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Posts: 454 (05/14/09 10:13 PM) Registered user |
But Debbie could just be saying that, croc, so that people are stunned and amazed when Stephen wins or gets her vote at least.
Jean Robert was all anti-Todd in his interviews when really he'd voted for him. |
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Posts: 2816 (05/14/09 10:17 PM) MESS member |
crocophile wrote:Trix is the PBP g.oddess, I'm just loosening up to help with the three hours on Sunday. |
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Posts: 2100 (05/14/09 10:20 PM) Registered User |
Orangeena wrote:HUH? I guess you must of missed the part where JT told Stephen that he was voting for Erinn because of the promise he made to Coach. He then told Stephen it was his decision and Stehen understood. They both knew that Taj and Erinn were voting for Coach. And they both knew that the swing vote was going to be STEPHEN's decision. So how is it now that all the remaining Forzas are against JT. Taj said that she is confident of the final three of JT/Stephen and herself. JT affirmed with Stephen at the reward that it was he [JT] and Stephen to the final two. I admit that Stephen did look like his wheels were turning on that one but when haven't they been turning. AND Erinn thinks that final three is her/JT and Stephen. So how this suddenly turned to JT being in the "outs" is certainly way, way overblown. AND everyone is assuming that JT can't win the next challenge. Well he has won the past two challenges pretty handily. (Although I think Stephen didn't really try tonight) I see this as the point where JT goes on and wins the last two challenges making Stephens "wish" come true. (When Stephen told JT that he wanted JT to be the one to go on an immunity run rather than see Tyson go on one.) JT has not wavered in his alliance to Taj or Stephen one time. If I am wrong, please feel free to point it out to me. Stephen may have waited too late to take out the warrior, if that was ever his intention. (Sure he has talked about not wanting to go to the end with JT but I don't see him pulling the trigger. I predict that his reluctance to take out his biggest rival will cost him the game.) |
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Posts: 48 (05/14/09 10:28 PM) Registered user |
Coach videos of ponderosa are up now. He is as clueless there as he was at camp.
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Posts: 2102 (05/14/09 10:31 PM) Registered User |
^^Wow what a surprise. Does he think he is back on exile or is he back on the Amazon. I have to go check this out.
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Posts: 9 (05/14/09 10:44 PM) |
But if that's the case, I also think Stephen risked throwing away his free ride to F2 if JT wins IC. The only reason JT would take Stephen was out of friendship - and I really think he would do that - but now, if he doesn't trust Stephen, he can pick whoever is the bigger "goat" at that point. If I had been Stephen, I would think twice about blindsiding JT at any other time than actually blindsiding JT out of the game.
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Posts: 2103 (05/14/09 11:04 PM) Registered User |
It goes back to Trixiego and her ying and yang comparison. JT couldn't have made it without Stephen and vice-versa. They both compliment the other's
game perfectly. Too bad Survivor isn't a team game. I really think that Stephen has waited too long to get rid of JT. Why? Because he had to in order
to position himself in the final four. Unfortunately, for Stephen, he can't blindside JT is JT has the IN around his neck. We know JT has the speed and
endurance for the spider challenge. I would imagine after tonight that JT also could outdo anyone in an endurance challenge. If he succeeds in winning the
last four immunity challenges, he will win the game. Done deal.
Now if you want to have some real fun... go see the Ponderosa clips on Coach's arrival. What a royal ass. Of note in the clips: He is riding to the Ponderosa claiming his back is "broken" all the while going over bumpy roads with nary a grimace while stuffing his face AND (this will surprise nobody) He says that everyone is trying to get back to their "former" selves" but he plans to "go back" looking the scarred, battle worn warrior that he is. Now we really do know what a faker he is. Remember his "post-show" pic? How gaunt he was? Well it is because he wanted to look like that, he purposefully starved himself. I know how I spell loser.... COACH |
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Posts: 4738 (05/14/09 11:11 PM) Registered user |
ok, so according to the ponderosa video, he lost 31 lbs. but he said he wanted to go back looking like he'd had a tough experience.
fast forward to this: http://www.lassennews.com/News_Story.edi?sid=5314 "One of the older ladies in the front row said, 'That's not Ben … Where's Ben?' and that explains everything said Wade, who admitted he lost 45 pounds from an already physically fit body.lying DOUCHE!!! |
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JT's last blog, er, I mean, JP's! | ||
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Posts: 1554 (05/14/09 11:19 PM) Registered User |
From EW...As in Roach...Ewww...Even now that he's gone, JP can't stop praising him. Makes me sick. So if you don't want to vomit all over
MamaKim's husband, or yourself, skip 3/4s done to miss the still-astonishing me Roach-a-thon. Oh! And then that's followed by desperate JP
mis-direction...but it's worth mentioning....
"No sense in burying the lead. It finally happened. You all got your wish.... ...Coach is gone. You've been complaining about him for weeks on end. The universal energy you all put out there to get rid of him worked. Now be honest... are you truly happy? Is life better now? Or do you think you might miss him just a wee little bit? Be honest. Listen up 'cause I'm gonna give you a dose of truth that will either having you nodding in agreement or vowing to never watch the show again: Coach was without question the most dynamic character this season. Nobody was even a close second. Thinking Coach is a great character doesn't mean I think he's a great guy. It also doesn't mean I think he's a punk. My personal feelings about Coach are irrelevant; I'm only talking from a show point of view. He was, in the words of Jon Favreau and Vince Vaughn, "money." Absolute money. Love him or hate him, Coach provided more memorable moments than anybody on the show in years. He is an absolute must if we ever do another all-stars and if you saw him on the street you wouldn't be able to help yourself. You'd approach him so fast you'd lose your shoes. Let's review his farewell episode, shall we? Just when you thought Coach couldn't provide any more fantastic moments...Coach gets sent to Exile Island. The exchange between Coach and Erinn was one of the best of the season. Upon watching the episode and seeing what Coach said in interview and to J.T. (which I am not privy to during the show) I actually do not think Coach was trying to upstage Erinn. I think Coach was worried about making fire and living on his own. I think he was worried that he might look bad and so decided to avoid doing anything at all and instead turn it into a positive "choice." Coach's speech on Exile Island will go down as one of the most fantastic in the history of our show. Coach Wade talking about himself in the third person was so good I am speechless. I cannot express how much I enjoyed it. Absolutely brilliant. ADVICE: Young actors in Hollywood, take the Coach Wade monologue and use it as your audition piece for any and every thing. Wanna get an agent? Lay that on them. Wanna book that commercial? Give them a yuppie version of Coach Wade. Wanna meet Spielberg? Get to work on Coach Wade and it just may happen. You can't go wrong with Coach Wade. You guys think I'm putting you on. I really do think you could do a show with Coach Wade. Word for word, moment for moment, Coach Wade is one of the most entertaining guys on television today. I'm surprised CBS hasn't already signed him to his own show. "Weekends With Coach Wade." Or of course the more dramatic, "By day he's a former soccer coach and part time conductor. On the weekends he is 'The Dragon Slayer." No need for writers or actors. It's all about Coach and his life and it's all there. Yes, I am serious. I miss Coach. The immunity challenge couldn't have been much better. Talk about a classic Survivor challenge. Unreal. Love it. It was so good I am laughing as I am writing this - sheer joy. It started with Coach's long walk in from Exile and the insincere hug from Stephen. Ah, this game can be so brutal. The challenge itself was really good. I love challenges that are simple in concept but demanding in execution. That challenge was definitely demanding. Very hard on your feet. I tried it myself. It hurts. A lot. It was a very hot day as well. But Coach's dramatic fall from grace was one of the most memorable performances ever. If there are any award shows honoring reality stars, Coach has to be nominated and he is a shoo-in to win. Name anybody on any reality show this year that has been more compelling than Coach? Nobody, I tell you, nobody! Long Live Coach Wade! And like any Emmy-worthy episode of Survivor, it ended with what else...a poem from Coach Wade. In case you missed it: With friend and foe we march to the battle plain
Coach, I assure you, nobody will ever forget your name. You left your mark on Survivor. I hope it is not the last we see of you. Okay, so where are we now? Our final four: J.T. - If he gets to the final two he probably wins...unless he goes up against... TAJ - This would be quite a show down. Two of the most well liked people in the game. STEPHEN - Best bet is to go up against Erinn, who he could probably beat. ERINN - A long shot due to her betrayal - hard for her to get votes from the former Timbira members on the jury. Might be smart to take her all the way to the end. You know how this works...Sunday May 17, 8-10 p.m. our final 2 hour episode. 10-11pm the live reunion show. If you're in the central time zone it's one hour earlier across the board. I hope you enjoy it. As always it's been a pleasure chatting each week. Thanks for all your feedback, positive... and negative! I wouldn't want it any otNo sense in burying the lead. It finally happened. You all got your wish.... ...Coach is gone. You've been complaining about him for weeks on end. The universal energy you all put out there to get rid of him worked. Now be honest... are you truly happy? Is life better now? Or do you think you might miss him just a wee little bit? Be honest. Listen up 'cause I'm gonna give you a dose of truth that will either having you nodding in agreement or vowing to never watch the show again: Coach was without question the most dynamic character this season. Nobody was even a close second. Thinking Coach is a great character doesn't mean I think he's a great guy. It also doesn't mean I think he's a punk. My personal feelings about Coach are irrelevant; I'm only talking from a show point of view. He was, in the words of Jon Favreau and Vince Vaughn, "money." Absolute money. Love him or hate him, Coach provided more memorable moments than anybody on the show in years. He is an absolute must if we ever do another all-stars and if you saw him on the street you wouldn't be able to help yourself. You'd approach him so fast you'd lose your shoes. Let's review his farewell episode, shall we? Just when you thought Coach couldn't provide any more fantastic moments...Coach gets sent to Exile Island. The exchange between Coach and Erinn was one of the best of the season. Upon watching the episode and seeing what Coach said in interview and to J.T. (which I am not privy to during the show) I actually do not think Coach was trying to upstage Erinn. I think Coach was worried about making fire and living on his own. I think he was worried that he might look bad and so decided to avoid doing anything at all and instead turn it into a positive "choice." Coach's speech on Exile Island will go down as one of the most fantastic in the history of our show. Coach Wade talking about himself in the third person was so good I am speechless. I cannot express how much I enjoyed it. Absolutely brilliant. ADVICE: Young actors in Hollywood, take the Coach Wade monologue and use it as your audition piece for any and every thing. Wanna get an agent? Lay that on them. Wanna book that commercial? Give them a yuppie version of Coach Wade. Wanna meet Spielberg? Get to work on Coach Wade and it just may happen. You can't go wrong with Coach Wade. You guys think I'm putting you on. I really do think you could do a show with Coach Wade. Word for word, moment for moment, Coach Wade is one of the most entertaining guys on television today. I'm surprised CBS hasn't already signed him to his own show. "Weekends With Coach Wade." Or of course the more dramatic, "By day he's a former soccer coach and part time conductor. On the weekends he is 'The Dragon Slayer." No need for writers or actors. It's all about Coach and his life and it's all there. Yes, I am serious. I miss Coach. The immunity challenge couldn't have been much better. Talk about a classic Survivor challenge. Unreal. Love it. It was so good I am laughing as I am writing this - sheer joy. It started with Coach's long walk in from Exile and the insincere hug from Stephen. Ah, this game can be so brutal. The challenge itself was really good. I love challenges that are simple in concept but demanding in execution. That challenge was definitely demanding. Very hard on your feet. I tried it myself. It hurts. A lot. It was a very hot day as well. But Coach's dramatic fall from grace was one of the most memorable performances ever. If there are any award shows honoring reality stars, Coach has to be nominated and he is a shoo-in to win. Name anybody on any reality show this year that has been more compelling than Coach? Nobody, I tell you, nobody! Long Live Coach Wade! And like any Emmy-worthy episode of Survivor, it ended with what else...a poem from Coach Wade. In case you missed it: With friend and foe we march to the battle plain
Coach, I assure you, nobody will ever forget your name. You left your mark on Survivor. I hope it is not the last we see of you. Okay, so where are we now? Our final four: J.T. - If he gets to the final two he probably wins...unless he goes up against... TAJ - This would be quite a show down. Two of the most well liked people in the game. STEPHEN - Best bet is to go up against Erinn, who he could probably beat. ERINN - A long shot due to her betrayal - hard for her to get votes from the former Timbira members on the jury. Might be smart to take her all the way to the end. You know how this works...Sunday May 17, 8-10 p.m. our final 2 hour episode. 10-11pm the live reunion show. If you're in the central time zone it's one hour earlier across the board. I hope you enjoy it. As always it's been a pleasure chatting each week. Thanks for all your feedback, positive... and negative! I wouldn't want it any other way! Now check out our exclusive deleted scene and then read the TV Watch. her way! Now check out our exclusive deleted scene and then read the TV Watch. |
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Posts: 130 (05/15/09 12:13 AM) Registered user |
 Turns out that Coach was not that far
off by calling Stephen the evil wizard.
I just watched the voting video
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Posts: 712 (05/15/09 12:14 AM) |
I'm so ready for the spider.
Bring it on!! |
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Posts: 940 (05/15/09 12:45 AM) |
Listen up 'cause I'm gonna give you a dose of truth that will either having you nodding in agreement or vowing to never watch the show again: Coach was without question the most dynamic character this season. Nobody was even a close second. I have to agree with that. BUT I hate him. He's not even the guy I love to hate, I just hate him. period. paragraph. This was my birthday, and if Coach hadn't been voted out, it would have been a not so great day. He was, so this is the bestest birthday present! |
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Posts: 846 (05/15/09 2:33 AM) MESS member |
my poem to you, Coach....
Oh mighty warrior, you have been The most annoying one of all. You talk of strength, of honour and truth How fun it was to watch you fall. The Dragonslayer is no more We breathe a sigh of relief No longer do we have to hear The stories beyond our belief. We thought you'd never ever go Just like the big pesky roach. Thank goodness Stephen stepped on you Be gone, oh delusional Coach! ---------------------- btw: I don't think JT was on the outs. There was talk about how he couldn't vote for Coach so he had to vote for Erinn. I also think that Stephen is very well aware he can't take JT to the end. There have been several moments where he has mentioned things about not taking JT if he wants to win. The thing is, how can he boot JT and still come out smelling like roses? he could say Erinn and Taj were going to tie it up and vote for him if he didn't vote with them. nah i doubt that would fly. The problem is, while Stephen would take Erinn to the F2, would Erinn take Stephen? I mean, if she had a choice of all 3 to go against, who would she end up taking? That is where her loyalty will be when it comes to this F4 vote. |
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Posts: 7843 (05/15/09 2:54 AM) Registered user |
Problem with JT's vote is he just exposed that Erinn was #4 in the pecking order, contrary to what she's been told by JT/Steve. (Who she thought were
taking her to F3.)
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Posts: 16914 (05/15/09 3:30 AM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish |
Do you think Orange? I think, if anything, this created doubt for JT and Lord knows he needed it (even if it was just this tiny little nonsensical amount considering the collective drool of the mouth he has had) |
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Posts: 495 (05/15/09 5:43 AM) |
Kirblar wrote: Why would she think she was final 3 with them over Taj, who has been with them from the get-go, and the 3 of them have been thick as thieves since the merge? |
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Posts: 2105 (05/15/09 9:01 AM) Registered User |
Trixiego wrote: I agree with you Trixiego - but I don't think it will change JT's path. It seems he is determined that it will be him and Stephen in the final two. Loyal to the end. While Stephen may have stated several times that he doesn't want to be with JT at the end he also has stated several times that he doesn't trust Erinn. so what side wins out with Stephen? His fear of losing at final two because he is against JT or his fear of not making final two because Erinn backstabs him? I am thinking that Stephen is not a risk takerr and will got with JT... never mind that he may not even get the chance to vote out JT if JT wins the final two ICs. |
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Posts: 1874 (05/15/09 9:21 AM) Registered user |
Jt' security vote for Erinn could have been done with Stephen's knowledge to prevent a tie in case Erinn and Taj decided to oust Stephen - JT/ S vote
Coach, C votes Erinn and Taj/Erinn vote Steven. Tie between Stephen and Coach. Revote Erinn and Taj boot Stephen. I can't see how else his term
"security" fits. It would mean they are acting when they get back from TC and argue about the vote though.
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Posts: 24587 (05/15/09 10:00 AM) Admin/Play-By-Play Guru
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realitygal wrote: It was the only move that made sense for Stephen, really. He couldn't risk JT dragging the Ultimate Goat (Coach) to the F2. On top of that, booting Coach creates an informal 3-1 F4 split in his favor if JT presses the issue about the vote. And he still seems to have Taj, either as a jury vote or an F2 partner. Pretty good move for Stephen, all the way around. |
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