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S18 Ep12 - Challenge (Endurance - Panels)

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crocophile		#41	[-]
Posts: 10638 (05/09/09 12:17 PM) MESS Moderator More Recent Posts	Remove this ad TDT has a shot of Coach sitting on the sidelinse with either JT or Stephen next to him. Whatever happened this challenge didn't just end with everyone rushing to Coach's aid, and Coach didn't win. .
Martrae		#42	[-]
Posts: 1777 (05/09/09 12:22 PM) MESS member More Recent Posts	He looks beat, doesn't he?
MidnightPrince69		#43	[-]
Posts: 23109 (05/09/09 12:38 PM) MadStudNYC More Recent Posts	This challenge was tailor-made for Cuntch. If he falls, it will be lol
Jacare15		#44	[-]
Posts: 1890 (05/09/09 04:55 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts	After the endurance challenge during Fans v. Faves, they went back to the bench (to eat, etc.) so that could be a possibility for Coach's sitting down?
kenc333		#45	[-]
Posts: 8772 (05/09/09 05:40 PM) More Recent Posts	The speculation is that Erinn wins because she's a smaller woman with smaller feet, right? Well she was supposed to have an advantage in the same way in the F10 IC and she went down before JT and Coach and out at pretty much the same time as Taj. I think the timeline goes something like: 1. _____ wins RC, Coach sent to exile, Erinn makes snarky remark 2. Back at camp/on reward, no one really cares 3. _____ wins IC, Coach 'injured'. 4. Back at camp, Coach exaggerates Erinn's comment and Stephen humours Coach by agreeing with him 5. Erinn thinks she's still vulnerable because Coach is targetting her 6. Coach is voted out either way My guess is that someone besides Erinn or Coach wins immunity, allowing that 'tasteless' comment drama to proceed.
cindidindi76		#46	[-]
Posts: 17740 (05/09/09 05:53 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts	Erinn's ill advised comments appear to be circa IC. She appears to be in danger at camp which could indicate she didn't win. Actually, if you look at hair/clothes/buff, the comment is at RC, so the post-comment stuff could be from before IC. Not saying she wins, but if the worrying stuff is before IC, she could still be the winner.
birdlady		#47	[-]
Posts: 2610 (05/09/09 05:59 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts	Well she was supposed to have an advantage in the same way in the F10 IC and she went down before JT and Coach and out at pretty much the same time as Taj. No, in that one the advantage is lighter and larger feet - weight to area ration. That one has plenty of apparatus surface to put your feet on, so you want to take as much advantage of it as possible. Also not a big butt would be good, to keep your center of gravity over your center of balance. Hairdressers stand all day with their arms out; that should help. She could be a little more motivated than some people (cough pizza-eaters cough).
CuriousGeorgeTown		#48	[-]
Posts: 303 (05/09/09 07:47 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts	My guess is that someone besides Erinn or Coach wins immunity, allowing that 'tasteless' comment drama to proceed. I usually just lurk, but I have 2 questions about the winner: 1) Isn't the person sitting next to Coach, Stephen? Due the placement of the Survivor logo on his buff? I think JT has the logo on his forehead, and Stephen has it above the ear? 2) Why is Erinn the only one with shoes on when Coach is on the ground? Would that mean she's been out of the challenge a while?
Trixiego		#49	[-]
Posts: 16839 (05/09/09 08:02 PM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish More Recent Posts	\ Post IC? Erinn and Coach are matched up. They all look like Rupert showed up at camp or something
birdlady		#50	[-]
Posts: 2611 (05/09/09 08:08 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts	Remove this ad Yeah, that's a weird shot. (Like, why would one want to use something so low energy as a PR photo?) They're all looking at the same thing, with some curiosity but not very much. It's not interesting enough to be a medic or an elephant or such... Pre immunity challenge? Like they're waiting for some crew person to do something so they can leave to go to the challenge? ETA Good point about the shoes. She's definitely barefoot in the one with all five of them in the boxes. Last Edited By: birdlady 05/09/09 08:14 PM. Edited 2 times.
Oowatanite		#51	[-]
Posts: 7572 (05/09/09 08:26 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts	Are we sure that Coach collapses coming down from the challenge ? Or does he collapse as they begin to head back to camp ? And whose extra set of legs are those ?
LKMOSCAR		#52	[-]
Posts: 6432 (05/09/09 08:26 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts	Titled "Center of Gravity"
CuriousGeorgeTown		#53	[-]
Posts: 305 (05/09/09 08:38 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts	They all look like Rupert showed up at camp or something Actually is Lill and Burton. Producers still think the outcasts twist could work.
Trixiego		#54	[-]
Posts: 16840 (05/09/09 08:58 PM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish More Recent Posts	:snort Yeah the shoes back on is strange. That clip does not show when Coach "injured" himself. We still can't know if Coach wins this or not and I'm always suspicious of talk about someone in the negative if they are safe since they are usually one of two people who are being "set up" as the boot that night and quite a few people belive Erinn wins this. The shot of Coach on the ground does not show him falling off; he is already on the ground. S/JT are with Coach when S says E's comment was tasteless. In that shot, Coach has his hair down (no buff on his head though) so if this is after the IC, I wonder if Erinn perhaps makes another comment at the IC in response to Coach's "injury" I also wonder if Coach's groan/cry/roar now is a cry/roar/groan of him in pain up on the challenge. Maybe Jeff questions him, Coach tells him he is in some sort of agony and Erinn makes a remark to that as well?
crocophile		#55	[-]
Posts: 10646 (05/10/09 04:40 AM) MESS Moderator More Recent Posts	Trix I think the Coach sitting out shot does say he loses this, and I very much doubt it's when he collapses with everyone is around. If it's over Erinn would be able to slip her shoes back on. In this shot I'd guess the other person sitting during the IC is Stephen (bushier sideburns) rather than JT. Which would make JT, Taj and Erinn potentially still up. Why would Coach and Stephen get up apparently before the IN is passed out? Likely to congratulate the winner. They are in the group with Taj and JT. Maybe "Rupert" is a staff medic? Last Edited By: crocophile 05/10/09 06:11 AM. Edited 2 times.
Oowatanite		#56	[-]
Posts: 7574 (05/10/09 08:09 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts	Trixiego wrote: The shot of Coach on the ground does not show him falling off; he is already on the ground. S/JT are with Coach when S says E's comment was tasteless. In that shot, Coach has his hair down (no buff on his head though) so if this is after the IC, I wonder if Erinn perhaps makes another comment at the IC in response to Coach's "injury" I also wonder if Coach's groan/cry/roar now is a cry/roar/groan of him in pain up on the challenge. Maybe Jeff questions him, Coach tells him he is in some sort of agony and Erinn makes a remark to that as well? Do we know that Stephen is refering to Erinn's remark ("martyr") as "tasteless" ? Maybe he's refering to Taj's remark ("drama queen") that she was heard to make during the IC injury scene in the TV ad.
Trixiego		#57	[-]
Posts: 16843 (05/10/09 09:10 AM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish More Recent Posts	What Taj comment? If you mean the one where she disses his Dragon Slayer nonsense, that appears to be in a confessional. She's got the blanket wrapped around her also and she usually does that early in the morning or late in the day. I'm not sure what comment you are talking about. No croc, I don't think he won but again the shot does not show him falling but already laying on the ground and I like to examine every possibility. Plus that shot shows him sitting out in what capacity? Being helped over as we saw does not mean he is sitting out. As someone else said also, Erinn could have dropped out early and put her shoes on also and came over when the fall happens. The fact that T/S/JT also don't have shoes on though seems to indicate they, at least, may have still been up there when Coach fell (although that one still shot of Coach does not show any part of Taj in the shot so any of the others could have just kept their shoes off) Taj's back is to us (closer to a bench?) S/JT are to his side and Erinn is off to side next to Stephen; those three hard to tell where they had been coming from but Taj's position may indicate she was out of the challenge also. I just again wonder if there are more than one set of comments being made because if S/JT are talking to Coach discussing what was said after the IC then they sure are milking something she said at the RC (although being that he was at Exile, it is possible since they didn't get a chance to discuss it with him) and his "cry" could have been in coughpaincough then he falls down. All of this muck surrounding Coach - Stephen feeling bad in confessional, comment that Erinn opens her mouth, the discussion with JT/S and Coach is weird considering that he would logically be the (and only) boot option. Obviously Erinn is being set up as a potential decoy boot but the whole thing is just weird to me unless they are not only setting up a massive, major Coach blindside to Coach as well as for the general audience because on the surface, they are making it appear that Coach is safer than Erinn IMO Last Edited By: Trixiego 05/10/09 09:19 AM. Edited 1 times.
crocophile		#58	[-]
Posts: 10649 (05/10/09 09:27 AM) MESS Moderator More Recent Posts	Trix he and Stephen are sitting here. Generally they only sit when they are out at a challenge, no? The collapsing scene must be later when it's over, if not the collapsing scene is before they started and Stephen sits besides him, why? . Last Edited By: crocophile 05/10/09 09:32 AM. Edited 1 times.
Trixiego		#59	[-]
Posts: 16844 (05/10/09 09:43 AM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish More Recent Posts	I kinda took that picture that it could happen at any time. If Coach is injured at any point during the challenge and the challenge stops momentarily they would be helping him over, maybe take a couple of minutes then resume the challenge - I forget what happened with Osten, I do know that the challenge resumed but they didn't throw him up on the sand without making sure he was okay (or did they? That season I try to blank from my memory) Erinn's wearing shoes doesn't make sense either. Could he collapse before the challenge starts? Sure. That would also explain why Erinn's shoes are on still as well, she may have not yet taken them off and I guess they help him over, check on him then they start the challenge? If that is the case, we don't know if Coach doesn't win either since all of this would be prior to the challenge. I"m just mulling over every angle
birdlady		#60	[-]
Posts: 2613 (05/10/09 10:16 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts	Remove this ad Fwiw, JT has a water bottle in the helping Ben up scene. They brought Ben water because he is coughdehydratedcough? JT was sitting on the bench with his water cause he's out of the challenge? JT cleverly sneaks a sip mid-challenge? Pre-challenge and they haven't gotten rid of their shoes and water yet? Seriously, would they break mid-challenge? Seems like that's a perfect Probst manipulation, the challenge goes on while Ben lies twitching in the sand. Anyone human enough to go to him doesn't deserve to win. Yeah, the medics come in and make sure he's faking, but we never see that on screen. Or stick in an IV and leave him there... (Teehee all these years I didn't think south american fire ants served any useful purpose...) But yeah, big fat decoy for Erinn.

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