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S18 Episode 11 - Story Arcs
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Posts: 16746 (05/01/09 5:04 AM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish |
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Jedijake |
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Posts: 5660 (05/01/09 8:48 AM) MESS member |
After all the Coach biz is finally over, it's going to be a showdown between JT and Stephen. The Coach show will be over and the Jalapao in-scrambling will
finally begin.
I have a feeling that Stephen and JT will backstab each other and Erinn will be in the final 2 with one of them. |
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Posts: 7487 (05/01/09 9:04 AM) Registered User |
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Posts: 2038 (05/01/09 10:11 AM) Registered User |
^^^ Only in your dreams would Erinn take out either JT or Stephen in the end. Both these players are liked whereas Erinn is not. Sorry but it just won't
happen.
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chapera rocks |
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Posts: 10907 (05/01/09 10:58 AM) Registered User |
Erinn is liked just fine by Sierra and Tyson has no problem with her anymore. Not to mention her Pao alliance.
That's not even the point. The final 2 has to be 2 of Stephen/JT/Erinn. No one else would make sense, story wise, IMO. ETA -- Anyone else think that Erinn will try something in the game imminently? Because: "So we vote Brendan and Sierra out, and then we can start playing the game for real." "When Sierra is no longer with us, the game will change. And I will be the one responsible for turning this game on its head. Guilty as charged!" That's two references to her doing something once Sierra is gone. But you'd think they'd show it in the preview, so I don't know.
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Posts: 859 (05/01/09 12:59 PM) MESS member |
Chapera I get why the editing shows JT/Stephen in the F3, but what about Erinn's edit specifically makes you think she's F3 and not Taj? The two guys
have stuck with Taj this far, it seems. We've had other contestants who claim they will turn the game around and then don't, so I put less stock in
these things until they prove to be true. For that matter, she already did turn the game around with the Tyson boot. I'm not disagreeing, I just wonder
what I'm missing.
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Posts: 291 (05/01/09 1:21 PM) |
Debbie's finally getting some airtime... but she is obviously and clearly linked to Coach. Unless Coach wins immunity, Debbie isn't in danger. I think
Coach's blindside is gonna be the obvious focal point of the season, and we're gonna see an extra-negative jump in the episode before he gets nailed,
like with Randy. I think because of that, Coach is safe for next episode, and because of that, Debbie is safe as well.
JT's "sneaky" arc is really firing on all cylinders. We've had a couple episodes with JT wondering why the hell people trust him. It seems to be prepping a strategic move by JT. He no longer has to cut physical threats, so he'll take out social threats. Who looks like the only person with a shot against him? Stephen. Especially considering JT is facing five girls for immunity, along with Stephen's immunity run comment, and on top of that Debbie possibly creating a woman's alliance, JT probably starts winning immunity here. If JT wins, Stephen could be a backup target for a woman's alliance. Maybe JT's vote could be for Stephen and edited to show he is willing to backstab others? If the idol is used, it'd be because Taj objected to the alliance and told JT/Stephen. If the idol had to be used here, it'd be used on Erinn. She would have backstabbed them. Debbie and Coach would be saving themselves, and if Stephen is just trying to eliminate variables, Erinn would be next in that scenario. And if there was a woman's alliance that succeeded, Coach would follow granted JT is going on an immunity run. At four, he very likely wins (against 3 woman). Debbie is the biggest threat of the three woman. As to who would be a better goat, I have no clue... Taj and her money, or Erinn and her lack of allies? If I had to guess: 6. Stephen 5. Coach 4. Debbie 3. Taj/Erinn 2. Taj/Erinn 1. JT |
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Posts: 12708 (05/01/09 1:21 PM) Registered user |
I think Taj could be final three. At this point it seems Debbie and Coach are the next two to go. Stephen or Erinn could go since we don't know if they
make the final four, but to me, I think it's Debbie and Coach. It can still be a blindside, because at this point they think Erinn is on the outs and the
next one to go.
At final four, anything can happen. I could definitely see a blindside at final four with someone besides Erinn going. JT would be the ideal choice to take out then unless he is immune. I think the final three will either be Taj/Stephen/Erinn or JT/Stephen/Erinn, with yet another betrayal unless Erinn wins the final immunity. |
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Posts: 316 (05/01/09 1:36 PM) |
goohst wrote:I respect your logic, but I disagree with your premise that Debbie is safe unless C.roach wins an immunity. C.roach is viewed as "predictable" and Debbie is not. Debbie is even shown in the "next time" clips as turning on C.roach and saying "it's time" referring to booting C.roach. You may be right about Coach's blindside being a focal point of the season, and what better opportunity for a negativity-spike than if his last ally was gone, and he was left with no-one to humor him, pretend to believe his stories, or stroke his needy ego?
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Posts: 10911 (05/01/09 2:35 PM) Registered User |
ratsnsnakes wrote:I didn't say they'd be the final 3, only that 2 of them would be the final 2. Taj, Coach, and Debbie make no sense to make the finals as Debbie is on the outs/has been invisible, Coach has been set up for a blindside, and Taj has all but disappeared post merge. Stephen/JT are obvious. Erinn has had a low key edit but she's never just disappeared, and has been on the radar every episode in some way, and hasn't gone more than 1 or 2 episodes without a significant scene. That's why she could still be a finalist (and probably loses to JT or Stephen unless there's a surprising upset). |
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Posts: 2568 (05/01/09 3:38 PM) Registered user |
I still think it's Jalapao for F3, but yeah, that's what stands out to me about Erinn's edit as well. She's been awfully visible throughout for
no particular reason. (As opposed to Ben, who is awfully visible because he, um, is awful.) Maybe it's just because she is cute and speaks well in
confessionals, but maybe it's because she is important.
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Posts: 5661 (05/01/09 5:30 PM) MESS member |
Only in your dreams would Erinn take out either JT or Stephen in the end. Both these players are liked whereas Erinn is not. Sorry but it just won't happen.Wouldn't that be a reason for Erinn TO take out either JT or Stephen? I get "take out" as meaning "voting out". If the final 4 is JT/Steve/Taj/ Erinn and Erinn wins the F4 immunity, either there would be a tie or Taj would probably go. If Erinn wins again, she has no choice to take out one of the guys. If JT or Stephen win the F3 immunity (imagining Taj gone), then they would be SMART to take out the other guy and bring Erinn to the end. |
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Posts: 863 (05/01/09 5:53 PM) Registered User |
Why would Stephen be next.
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Posts: 425 (05/01/09 7:23 PM) MESS member |
I cheered when Sierra left... honestly! I couldn't take any more of her.
So Coach is so full of crap, that I think anyone is in a good position to betray him and simply say "you tell so many crazy stories, how did i know you weren't lying about being honorable?" I wonder if Erinn will be next or not. Maybe she makes a move against Stephen. She did just vote for him. |
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Posts: 15574 (05/01/09 8:10 PM) Registered User |
I still think it's Jalapao for F3, but yeah, that's what stands out to me about Erinn's edit as well. She's been awfully visible throughout for no particular reason.I agree about Erinn's edit. Ironically, I think she makes F2 precisely because Timbira is the Incredible Self-Hating, Self-Pagoning tribe. They adore Warrior JT and disdain Erinn, even when the Jollypal boys blindside them. Ergo, Stephen and JT's best option is to face Erinn. Besides, Erinn has been a card-carring Jollypal since the merge, and the boys can't be that loyal to Taj if they almost booted her ep.6. |
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Posts: 796 (05/01/09 8:34 PM) MESS member |
First off: voting off Sierra. I actually don't know that that was a bad move. I think that JT and Stephen can get a lot more mileage out of appeasing Coach
and Debbie than they can going in direct opposition to them. Think about Amber and Jerri being voted off before Rodger and Elisabeth, or Adam and Parvati
asking to be allowed to outlast Jonathan. I think that Coach, at least, is going to be more easily manipulated if he thinks that he was allowed to outlast
Sierra. I think Sierra owes the people in the editing department a muffin basket, because given the amount of animosity that she created in her tribemates, she
must be much more annoying than what we were allowed to see, a Sugar-coated edit, so to speak. Debbie: Wow, she's full of shit, which explains her choice
in alliances. Notice that she didn't actually deny that what Sierra said was true, she just burst into +@%@* to make Sierra look like a bully to take the
focus off herself. Classic passive-aggressive move when caught in conflict. Coach: Arrogant and full of it, but I must say he initially showed some signs of
good sportsmanship last night... I was expecting a Lex-like hissyfit of wounded indignation, and I was disappointed that he didn't act like a spoiled child
after Tyson was ousted. Instead, he saved his spoiled-child hissyfit for Sierra who busted him fair and square. Erinn: Everyone needs her to some extent, but I
just don't see how she'd manage to ever win against anyone other than Sierra, and even making the final 2 would have to involve an immunity run or a
deal with the low Jalapao on the totem pole (Taj?) Taj: Doesn't win this. She's cool and we like her, but she's been on the outside of the core
decisions since the merge, and I don't see how she'd win unless up against Erinn. Stephen and JT: Editing wise, seems like it's these two in the
final, right? Or one of these two routing Taj or Erinn if the last woman standing wins immunity? I must say, that would be a fun and worthy final two and I
would not be sure how that would go down...
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Posts: 5662 (05/01/09 8:54 PM) MESS member |
At Ponderosa, the they talked about how they should have blindsided Taj. Obviously they don't know Stephen is holding the idol. But WHY on EARTH are they
not targeting JT? They have to realize he can win immunity at any time and go on a roll.
They all (especially Coach) must worship JT. I'm surprised we haven't heard utterings from Stephen about how JT will have to leave at some point. Nobody has a bad word to say about any of the Jalapies. And Coach was eating out of JT's hand when JT apologized to him. Wow, just wow! I wondered if Sierra came clean to Coach and Debbie about the whole Exile Alliance thing, telling them that it was a secret and that's why they didn't say anything. Then, it would have been interesting if Coach would fess up about his dealio with JT and Stephen. This season is absolutely classic. Never would any of us imagine that an entire tribe would just simply fold on itself because they just cannot get along and let a tribe of 3 wipe out a tribe of 6. And to think these people can get along fine in Ponderosa but can't get their shit together in the game whatsoever. Absolutely amazing! |
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Posts: 20563 (05/02/09 5:32 AM) MESS member |
Jedijake wrote: yea thats if jt makes f2 i can't see him lossing, the other person at f2 would have to have one hell of a jury speech. |
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Posts: 10613 (05/02/09 5:39 AM) MESS Moderator |
This is my imitation of Erinn's arc -^-^-^-^-^- I haven't seen much except talk about Coach, her foretold switch, & an ok but pretty obvious move to dump Tyson, and don't expect to see much more until she's gone this week or next.
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Posts: 315 (05/02/09 11:44 AM) Registered User |
the devil wears prada...
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Posts: 240 (05/02/09 2:12 PM) Registered user |
Taj: Stephen might orchestrate a Taj blindside even if she makes the ultimate sacrifice and lets them visit their family members. Then next week, the idol is his to play. Stephen: Safe. JT: He'd be smart to lose immunity this week, and then win until the end. Erinn: I still don't feel like I know her, but maybe that's a good sign for her longevity. I could see her slipping past Coach, Debbie and Taj and being JT & Steve-o's sidekick Coach: Is he going to make the ultimate sacrifice? Will he give away comfort , family visit, or immunity? Yes, he would. Debbie: She's wearing down. She needs her biker buddy, a warm meal , shower and a good night's sleep. |
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