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birdlady		#61	[-]
Posts: 2562 (04/30/09 7:11 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So was it? Erinn - Stephen Ben - Sierra Debbie - Sierra JT - Sierra Stephen - Sierra? Sierra - Debbie Taj - Debbie? Erinn might have known Stephen could be a throwaway, and they just cut in an expression to make him look annoyed. But what was up with Taj?
crocophile		#62	[-]
Posts: 10607 (04/30/09 7:12 PM) MESS Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I was vascillating between Debbie and Sierra, but really to me the clues better fit Sierra. Great job Trix and freinds. Debbie & Coach turning on one another next week - 3rd straight Debbie heavy ep....not good! & the Family reward is next week. Who visits for Coach? I guess Erinn voted Stephen as payback for EI.
cantocigalo		#63	[-]
Posts: 1130 (04/30/09 7:33 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Did anyone get to see Sierra's final words? Global cut it off, as well as the who voted who. These people are confusing. Thanks, for the PBP.
ModestyBlaiser		#64	[-]
Posts: 123 (04/30/09 7:35 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Thanks for your speedy fingers and attention to detail Trix! Sierra was doomed from ep. 2 when I declared her to be my favourite player this season. I could start my own spoiler thread of 'person who will finish somewhere in the middle of the jury and not win - as determined by Modesty's preference'. I'm torn as to whom I should switch my kiss of death to next. Right now I'm split between Erin and Stephen as my second faves. I will accept bribes as to who I should throw my unwavering support behind - thus guaranteeing victory for the other.
I LUV TIJUANA		#65	[-]
Posts: 12698 (04/30/09 7:36 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Erinn probably did not want to go against her promise to not vote Sierra?
ModestyBlaiser		#66	[-]
Posts: 124 (04/30/09 7:37 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I LUV TIJUANA wrote: Erinn probably did not want to go against her promise to not vote Sierra? I think she was just resenting being sent to exile while her 'allies' were on reward. Hence - never again....
JediJeffro		#67	[-]
Posts: 515 (04/30/09 7:38 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Votes were Coach, Debbie, Stephen and JT for Sierra, Taj and Sierra for Debbie, Erinn for Stephen. Erinn's vote said "Never again. Swear." She looked very distraught while making it. That vote makes sense, since she promised not to vote for Sierra. Taj's vote is confusing to me. It's possible that it was by design in case Sierra had and played Brendan's HII and that consideration was edited out to maintain suspense for the boot.
craig		#68	[-]
Posts: 15557 (04/30/09 7:40 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Theories about the vote split. 1) Stepehn set up the vote split to make Coach\Debbie think Taj and Erinn were out of the loop and intended to go next (as coach wanted). After all, Jollypal voted off Sierra to buy peace. 2) Taj didn't want to vote for EA mate Sierra. She's one of the few whose slambook answers were more anti-Coach than anti-Sierra. Rememebr she didn't vote Sandy in ep.4 (throwaway vote for JT instead). 3) Erinn is so tight with Stephen that she felt safe throwing him a vote as a practical joking revenge for exiling her. Stephen had to trust her a lot to exile her in the first place. Anyway, that's my brainstorming. Last Edited By: craig 04/30/09 7:46 PM. Edited 1 times.
ModestyBlaiser		#69	[-]
Posts: 125 (04/30/09 7:40 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	JediJeffro wrote: Votes were Coach, Debbie, Stephen and JT for Sierra, Taj and Sierra for Debbie, Erinn for Stephen. Erinn's vote said "Never again. Swear." She looked very distraught while making it. That vote makes sense, since she promised not to vote for Sierra. Taj's vote is confusing to me. It's possible that it was by design in case Sierra had and played Brendan's HII and that consideration was edited out to maintain suspense for the boot. I agree that Taj's vote was by design - but maybe to give security to Coach that she isn't 'with' JT and Stephen. I thought we would have seen that discussion - since its so clever - but it would have given away the vote so yeah. That's my guess.
cantocigalo		#70	[-]
Posts: 1131 (04/30/09 7:42 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Was Taj left out of the loop? Or did JT and Stephen want it to appear to Coach and Debbie that they are the four and Taj's vote was to make it appear she was out of the loop?
ChynS		#71	[-]
Posts: 911 (04/30/09 7:43 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Birdlady has the correct list of who voted whom. The only thing new I remember Sierra saying was how proud she's of herself for lasted 30 days there, especially since she was sick since day one. Speaking of Taj siding with Sierra tonight, I'm wondering if Taj was left in the cold by the boyz or if Stephen was showing Ben the F4 in Ben's head? Down to Erinn's random vote for Stephen? I'm probablly giving Stephen too much credit! JT wanted less drama and he went with that knowing how Deb was more of a gamer than Sierra. Well, actually, I am still confused about Taj breaking up with the Exile alliance. What if, ... I am slow like that.
quartzeye		#72	[-]
Posts: 3853 (04/30/09 7:44 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Erinn was just trying to gather a "jury vote" hoping she makes to F2.
craig		#73	[-]
Posts: 15558 (04/30/09 7:59 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If the Timbits compalin about Erinn switching tribes, she can say: "Hey, who was the ONLY person to vote for a Jollypal the first 3 TCs postmerge, you knuckleheads!" I knew the Pathetic 3 wouldn't even get around to asking Erinn to vote with them.
rower	Episode 10 - Play by Play Post Show Analysis	#74	[-]
Posts: 2035 (04/30/09 8:18 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I am not going to underestimate JT/Stephens game and what we haven't been shown. Up until now they have been brilliant and there seems to be a method to their madness so to speak. I will give them credit for the Sierra boot and for also lulling Coach and Debbi into thinking that they (S/JT) were in with the final four alliance of C/D/JT/Stephen. Taj is not out of the loop and is playing her role nicely. UTR who is not making any threatening moves and who has let it appear that she is on the outside of the JT/Stephen alliance. A person who listens well and talks very little tends to get a lot of unsoliciated information. I would suspect that Taj has been one of the only people who has been kind to everyone and so people do tell her things that they may not tell the others. I suspect that Taj has fed a lot of information to Stephen/JT. (I don't believe that Taj makes it to the final 4 spider challange unless she does maintain her alliance with JT/Stephen) I have no doubt that JT/Stephen also thought of the possibility that Brenden gave the HII to Sierra and wanted a plan A and B in place. Sierra to go and if she pulled out the HII then Debbi went next. Erinn's vote for Stephen was kind of wierd but if she did it because she was mad about EI then she is as dumb as dirt. She better hope that she didn't seal her fate later on with Stephen if he happens to hold it against her. Taj voting for Debbi made sense because I am sure that Sierra made it known that she was voting for Debbi and that knowledge was used as a basis for JT/Stephen's plan to split the vote. The wizard and the warriors plan is almost complete.
mahdoo		#75	[-]
Posts: 313 (04/30/09 10:48 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Anyone notice the "fractured fairy tales" version C.roach gave about biblical Stephen? It seemed to be a biblical quote from Jesus on the cross, , confused with a Stephen is stoned to death story. go figure Last Edited By: mahdoo 04/30/09 11:44 PM. Edited 1 times.
Coachocd		#76	[-]
Posts: 7539 (04/30/09 11:33 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think JT and Stephen made a mistake. The cardinal sin in this game is voting based on emotion rather than strategy. Whether Sierra was unpleasant around camp, who cares? If she cannot win the game, then that's the person you want to scheme and plot to get into the final 2 with you. Coach is clearly a liar and Debbie is his game partner. Debbie is also better at challenges than Sierra and better at strategy. Plus, with Coach isolated he would flip out. Debbie has an interesting personality. Why, like Natalie, do we have to wait until the jury to even hear her speak? Damn editors. I think having Taj vote Debbie was about the possibility that Brendan gave her the idol. I really hate how the idol has changed and dominated this game. But there you have it. Erinn's throwaway vote is going to cost her. Clay did a throwaway vote to win Penny's jury vote. Sandra voted for Jon instead of Darrah which could have been disastrous had Lil wavered about voting for Rupert. There is no excuse for a throwaway vote. Every vote must be to vote someone out, set someone else up or woo the jury. Hopefully, Erinn voted to win Timbira jury votes. Last Edited By: Coachocd 04/30/09 11:37 PM. Edited 1 times.
mahdoo		#77	[-]
Posts: 314 (04/30/09 11:51 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Coachocd wrote: I think JT and Stephen made a mistake. The cardinal sin in this game is voting based on emotion rather than strategy. Whether Sierra was unpleasant around camp, who cares? If she cannot win the game, then that's the person you want to scheme and plot to get into the final 2 with you. I agree. Stephen started trying to steer the vote towards Debbie, but I think once he got frightened, he let JT have his way. I have less respect for Debbie now. "I don't remember what I said?" heh. And when for the fist time she's the one without numbers...its boo hoo hoo and I am an authority figure by profession and this "little 23 year old" is not my equal? What? Yeah...its been tense, and I believe her when she says it is a part of the game she doesn't like to play. But come on.... I think Taj and JT and Stephen might regret their vote tonight.
dagny1331		#78	[-]
Posts: 3020 (04/30/09 11:53 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I flove JT and Stephen. Their strategy is so multi-layered and smart, and we are not being shown most of it. Toss Taj in there, too. I love Taj. And I now have Erinn love. She took one for the team. I can't even imagine how horrible EI must have been. 3 days with no food or shelter or fire? Brutal. I wanted Coach or Debbie to go tonight, so that's a bit of a bummer. I hope JT or Stephen wins this. Flove them.
MissRabbit		#79	[-]
Posts: 811 (05/01/09 1:21 AM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	i know they voted out Sierra to make peace in the tribe but leaving in a SOLID twosome could very well have been a mistake. All they have to do is win Erinn over (you're going to be the first to go when it's F4 don't you know???) and they've tied it up 3 vs 3. If they had gotten rid of Debbie, it's smooth sailing to the end. Coach has no one, Sierra has no one, Erinn has no one. Yeah i know she's with Taj/Stephen/JT but the odds of Erinn, Sierra & Coach ever being able to haphazardly form an alliance of 3 to tie it up is slim to none. Wooing one person over from the other side is challenging enough, but swaying 2 people is near impossible. So keeping in a SOLID 2some where they're only 1 person shy of tying it up is just begging for something to go horribly wrong. We know from the F4 challenge that JT and Taj make it which almost assures that Stephen makes it as well, thus everything i've said above is neither here nor there. But JT/Stephen couldn't have known it would for sure work in their favour so my thought still stands that booting Sierra & not breaking up the 2some of Debbie & Coach might not have been the wisest move. Heck, we could see Erinn next eppy going to Coach & Debbie saying she's still pissed Stephen sent her to Exile (evidenced by her voting for him at TC). 3 votes Stephen, 3 votes Coach(?). Tiebreaker Stephen goes home.Then erinn flips back over to take out Coach or Debbie. The only thing we know for sure is F4 includes Taj & JT. the other 2 are unknowns. While this scenario isn't likely, it's possible.
crocophile		#80	[-]
Posts: 10611 (05/01/09 3:06 AM) MESS Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Besides throwing away her vote, what was Erinn's revelation on EI? She's the Timber Judas, and no better than F4, and maybe worse.

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