S18 Episode 9 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

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SurvivingInLA		#121	[-]
Posts: 102 (04/23/09 9:18 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Thanks from the west coast, pBp'ers... Can't wait to get home and watch!
crzypunk2004		#122	[-]
Posts: 4441 (04/23/09 9:20 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I want my OTT/CPP Taj back, not this UTR/INV Taj we've been getting for the past 2 episodes
Cheyenie		#123	[-]
Posts: 1069 (04/23/09 9:31 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think Stephen sold JT on voting out Tyson when he said, "I don't want him going on an immunity run, I want you to." You could just see the light go on his his head. I'm sure Sierra will be annoying next week, but I'm still going to enjoy seeing her say to Coach, "You made your decision now live with it. Die with dignity like a warrier." I doubt she'll say that, but it would be quite satisfying. I think Tyson deserved to go. I just don't like mean people and he was a mean person. Yeah, he was entertaining at times, but mostly he was just mean. From a strategy point he needed to go too. Finally, people were smart enough to vote out the immunity threat the first chance they got. How many times have we seen them wait and never get another chance.
Orangeena	I think...	#124	[-]
Posts: 1525 (04/23/09 9:34 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think, and you'll correct me, if I'm wrong, that Stephen was the first one shown as saying this to Taj and JT. In the now legendary tent scene... Erin was shown in a confessional, in think it was afterwards...talking about "doing SOMEthing" "making a move" but it didn't show her actually MAKING it, just mulling things over... And Stephen was shown MAKING the move.... Also, I think Stephen, smart as he is, didn't really read that EI clue carefully enough. I think it said the idol was --- well, where it was before, BUT --- he didn't realize I think that it was THERE AGAIN. He should've checked. Maybe next episode he will...
crzypunk2004		#125	[-]
Posts: 4442 (04/23/09 9:39 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The tent scene before tribal council was with Erinn/Taj/Stephen, Erinn brought up Tyson's name then left and Taj told Stephen to talk to JT and if he agreed on it then she'll vote with them. We haven't seen Taj and JT interact since the merge.
craig		#126	[-]
Posts: 15506 (04/23/09 9:46 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Just realized what a hole Coach and Tyson had dug for themselves. Even if they'd made nice with Sierra and planned to target JT, Erin plus the Jollypal idol would have spoiled their plan. Timbira gets the award for worst overall siocial game as a tribe, ever!
donutsrule		#127	[-]
Posts: 409 (04/23/09 9:57 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Sierra must have known about the vote, she wouldn't just vote Tyson and not know if anybody else had or not. I still can't believe that people think Tyson was crueler than Coach. Hoping people cry is better than cancer and dragon poop? Seriously, wtf people? If somebody said that to you in real life who would you punch in the face first? Even though Tyson was my favourite it is always good to see people make a decent move and I was happy to read that he's not going to cry about it. What the hell was Probst talking about in his blog that Tyson was going to get Coach? That would've been nice to see even if it didn't happen.
mahdoo		#128	[-]
Posts: 270 (04/23/09 10:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	crzypunk2004 wrote: The tent scene before tribal council was with Erinn/Taj/Stephen, Erinn brought up Tyson's name then left and Taj told Stephen to talk to JT and if he agreed on it then she'll vote with them. We haven't seen Taj and JT interact since the merge. FWIW, there was a Sierra confessional in an "outtake" or secret scene entitled "Split Between Two Tribes" in the CBS clips. In that clip, Sierra says "I think Tyson needs to go; I think Tyson is a huge threat." They chose to leave that confessional out of the episode before the current one. I agree with others who've pointed out Tyson's winning the last two immunity challenges (and many of the ones for Timbira prior to that) would make him an obvious boot target.
rower	Episode 9 - Play by Play Post Show Analysis	#129	[-]
Posts: 2017 (04/23/09 10:26 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Mahdoo wrote: "Taj and Stephen were in an "alliance" but we've never been shown that he was told about the cross tribal aliance, have we?" FYI - Taj took Stephen aside and told him about making the CTA with Brenden almost as soon as she came back from EI the first time. Donutsrule - Sorry your main guy is out but Tyson's abuse of Sierra was evident evident even at TC. Maybe Coach has also said mean things but his are usually confined to his self-congratulatory confessionals... To me, it seems evident that Sierra has self-esteem issues and Tyson didn't need to add to that. What was his point? His total disdain for her as a person with feelings really rubbed me the wrong way. Why kick someone and keep kicking them when they are down? As to Sierra's vote, who else would she vote for? At the time she voted, she thought she was going down so why not write down the name of the person who had treated his like dirt since day one? I have to say I won't miss him.... sorry. ;( for you. (really, I know how it feels to see a personal fav go but as you can guess, I'm not crying about it.) Watching the short promo for next week had me dying laughing. Coach NOW thinks he can reform his shambled tribe? It was great watching Sierra give him a taste of his own medicine. I can't wait to see the intro next week when they come back from tribal. I think if we are going to classify Sierra as a "reverse blind-side" and award JP "blindside points" then we need to add 2 more onto that tally... Coach and Debbi. The looks on their faces was priceless and seeing the smirk wiped off Tyson and Coach's face was poetry, in my book even better than Ozzy's blind-side. Taj's face time has been really limited lately and I am thinking that she is setting herself up as the perfect final 2 goat. Usually people think goats must be unlikable but I think it can also be someone who is seen as UTR or not making the big moves. I will be really interested in seeing if either JT or Stephen tries to take out the other. Coach may get his wish and two strong players, the warrior and the wizard end up facing each other in the final battle. Great Show!!!
mahdoo		#130	[-]
Posts: 271 (04/23/09 10:40 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	It really was (and should have been) more about voting off who was the biggest threat. I think that C.roach lives in his own little fantasy world, bathed in imaginary, glory and truth and honor. His ugly name-calling was usually aimed at "what was best for the tribe." Tyson was much more connected to the game of survivor and to the other people there. What Ben says is mostly about BEN and his fantasy. What Tyson has said makes me think that he must have fought like cats and dogs with a sister or two growing up. He was shown to have a mean streak he would do well to contain, in my opinion. I think that C.roach is not primarily cruel...he is primarily living in a fantasy world right now. Tyson made some really cruel comments aimed at no-one in particular, as well as some specifically towards Erinn and toward Sierra. Last Edited By: mahdoo 04/23/09 10:52 PM. Edited 1 times.
donutsrule		#131	[-]
Posts: 410 (04/23/09 11:17 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	rower wrote: Donutsrule - Sorry your main guy is out but Tyson's abuse of Sierra was evident evident even at TC. Maybe Coach has also said mean things but his are usually confined to his self-congratulatory confessionals... To me, it seems evident that Sierra has self-esteem issues and Tyson didn't need to add to that. What was his point? His total disdain for her as a person with feelings really rubbed me the wrong way. Why kick someone and keep kicking them when they are down? As to Sierra's vote, who else would she vote for? At the time she voted, she thought she was going down so why not write down the name of the person who had treated his like dirt since day one? I have to say I won't miss him.... sorry. ;( for you. (really, I know how it feels to see a personal fav go but as you can guess, I'm not crying about it.) I know you don't like Tyson but personally I'll always prefer a person that tells me straight to my face what they think over someone that acts all nicey nice and then slags me off behind my back. I haven't seen this episode yet, but even from the preview Tyson's tone to me wasn't gloating, he was just being direct. I would like that. You (it seems) and Sierra wouldn't/don't. I do understand because nobody gets why I prefer someone to just slag me off to my face. lol We did see more of Coach being horrible to her and Brendan said in his exit interviews that Coach was the worst to her so I still believe that Sierra was in on the vote, but I haven't read all the secret scenes and stuff yet. This was a good blindside, don't get me wrong, and I knew Tyson was toast as soon as he said he felt comfortable. That's a huge no-no. I can't wait to see this episode even though I know it's going to make me sad. lol
crzypunk2004		#132	[-]
Posts: 4451 (04/23/09 11:21 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't think Sierra knew, Taj in the insider vid was talking about how both Tyson and Sierra were going to be blindsided at TC.
realitygal		#133	[-]
Posts: 103 (04/23/09 11:49 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Was it my imagination or did Sierra flip off Jeff/the camera during TC? I will have to re watch.
mahdoo		#134	[-]
Posts: 272 (04/24/09 12:07 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	And was it my imagination or did Sierra briefly cross in front of Ben in the intro segment? What was that about? I will have to re-watch also.
sunflower101		#135	[-]
Posts: 4552 (04/24/09 12:12 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	crzypunk2004 wrote: The tent scene before tribal council was with Erinn/Taj/Stephen, Erinn brought up Tyson's name then left and Taj told Stephen to talk to JT and if he agreed on it then she'll vote with them. We haven't seen Taj and JT interact since the merge. The first episode after the merge had JT telling Taj that he made Coach think Brendan was a threat. IT's clear that Jalapao all are a voting block of three. Not sure why they don't show this more often. It seems that it isn't been shown because the editors are pushing Stephen/JT as a power duo.
donutsrule		#136	[-]
Posts: 411 (04/24/09 12:19 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	crzypunk2004 wrote: I don't think Sierra knew, Taj in the insider vid was talking about how both Tyson and Sierra were going to be blindsided at TC. I did mention that I hadn't seen/read that yet. lol A pox on all these people that let their ego get in the way, Sierra should've appreciated that Tyson was straight with her, because she sure as hell isn't going to crack JT, Stephen and Taj. ETA: I do include Tyson in the ego thing Last Edited By: donutsrule 04/24/09 12:22 AM. Edited 1 times.
crocophile		#137	[-]
Posts: 10589 (04/24/09 2:38 AM) MESS Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	"It was certainly a game changing event for the "Warrior" looks like he's eatimg a huge crow next week. Watching this knuckehead scuffle each week is better than a good "Bully Beatdown". Erinn has about a 0.0001% shot of switching back. Sierra will be loyal, for some reason. Great Job Trix and friends. Very good ep.
Trixiego		#138	[-]
Posts: 16667 (04/24/09 4:56 AM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Taj and Stephen were in an "alliance" with JT, but we've never been shown that JT was told about the cross-tribal alliance, have we? Maybe Sierra approached JT about Taj and Stephen being in an alliance with Brendan and Sierra...and he disbelieves her. Stephen is going to have some explaining to do. They never showed the audience that JT was let in on it, no. He knew though because I remember watching a scene where Stephen and JT were talking privately and Stephen was saying to JT something along the lines of that he knew he could get to the final with B/S/T but he would go with JT/Coach/Tyson/Deb IF JT would at some point turn on them and JT agreed. So at some point Stephen and/or Taj had to let JT know about the CTA since JT didn't look shocked at Stephen's words to him. For whatever reason, it wasn't important for the audience to know that Stephen told JT. It also looks like JT did indeed keep his promise to Stephen also :-) This just blows me over (Tyson post boot from The Insider) "I think everybody turned on me except for Coach and probably JT. I mean it's hard for me to think Debbie did, but she could probably be convinced, so the people who voted for me were probably Debbie, Sierra, Stephen, Taj, and Erinn." JT must have some sweet mojo that Tyson would actually immediately believe Debbie voted him out as opposed to JT "I trusted Coach's alliance with JT and Stephen, which is what I shouldn't have trusted. Coach I trusted just fine, Debbie I trusted fine, then when Coach came to me like, 'I made best friends with JT,' I thought, he does have a sultry voice, so it seems only natural we should trust him. (wags his finger) Do not trust the Southern man. I can never go to the South after this." THAT is funny. Last Edited By: Trixiego 04/24/09 5:05 AM. Edited 2 times.
birdlady		#139	[-]
Posts: 2531 (04/24/09 6:05 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	JT must have some sweet mojo Wow. Tyson doesn't even sound mad at his idea that it was JT. The man is wasted on cattle, we need to send him to achieve peace in the middle east.. Timbira gets the award for worst overall siocial game as a tribe, ever! Goodness, yes. Pagong at least hs the excuse that they didn't know about alliances yet. Cook Islands is another where there was a minority at the merge, but at least Raro made it competitive. Jalapao hasn't even had to bother about immunity, or immunity idols, yet.
Que		#140	[-]
Posts: 1353 (04/24/09 8:54 AM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	TAJ's crossed eyes at TC during coaches warrior triad...PRICELESS

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