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suckshardcore wrote:

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Even if Syesha was a diva does it really count as being screwed over if you make it to Top 3? Being screwed over generally means you didn't make it as far as you should/could have. Syesha made it far past where she should have.

She was never going to beat the David's for a spot in the Top 2 regardless of what song she chose, it could have been a theme from the Barney soundtrack or a hoedown and it wouldn't have mattered in the slightest.

She performed way better than all those who left before her. Castro, Brooke, Carly, KKK... They all fucked up and deserved to get booted. Syesha was consistently very good or at the very least okay. She was never bad. Therefore, she deserved to get at least as far as she did... The idea that she was "never going to beat the David's for a spot in the Top 2" is a reflection of how she was screwed over. If all three of them had gotten accurate praise/criticism throughout the competition, perhaps Syesha would have had a chance to beat one of them. Instead, TCO 1.0 (Archuleta) and TCO 2.0 (Cook) got all the pimpage and Syesha was never allowed to develop as a threat to them.

suckshardcore wrote:

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I disagree, Syesha would NEVER had beaten the David's no matter what the judges said or did. They could have given her a standing ovation Top 3 night and all 3 of them could have said Syesha deserves to win and still the F2 would have been David vs David.

They pimped the fuck of those 2 but they didn't even need too. They were easily the most popular and ran away with the competition.

You missed my whole point. Of COURSE nothing they could have done on top 3 night would have changed matters. I'm talking about top 24 night and top 20 night and top 16 night and top 12 night and top 11 night and so on and so on... If the judges' commentary had been reasonable, accurate and not so manipulative, the two David's may not have grown into the unstoppable forces they became.

seaguy wrote:

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If Syesha is as good as you keep going on about, where is her recording contract? I haven't heard a thing about her since the season ended except for reading about her here. Did she get signed? Does anyone know? Acting? I know she wanted to be an actress too. Anyone know?

I DON'T think Syesha is that good. I think she was consistently decent. I just ALSO don't think the David's walk on water. Porkchop was pretty "meh" throughout (no better than Syesha on average) with a few real clunkers thrown in. Cookie had moments of greatness, but also a few weeks where he was terrible. I do think Cook deserved to win, but that doesn't mean he wasn't overpraised a few times along the way. I think that it was probably about right that Syesha finished third, but that doesn't mean she wasn't underpraised a few times along the way.

And, Sea, you should know as well as anybody that success is not the true measure of talent. There are some truly talented people out there without deals and some worthless people who can't sing their way out of a paper bag who have them - and who do pretty damn well. Honestly, do you think that Jennifer Hudson (perhaps the best singer this show has ever had) would have gotten a recording contract and actually put out an album if not for her success with Dreamgirls? I don't.