S18 ~ Episode 7 ~ "The Dragon Slayer"

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hagiz1		#21	[-]
Posts: 390 (04/03/09 7:24 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	this is from the press release THE NEWLY MERGED TRIBE BEGINS TO SCHEME IMMEDIATELY AS OLD ALLIANCES CRUMBLE AND NEW ONES BEGIN TO FORM, ON "SURVIVOR: TOCANTINS - THE BRAZILIAN HIGHLANDS" A power player decides to come into the merge fighting, but his plan may be thwarted before it can be carried out. Meanwhile, an exiled pair makes a shocking discovery. the thing that interest me is "exiled pair"? they're still sending people to exile? how? and what shocking discovery they're talking about?
Heliox		#22	[-]
Posts: 2065 (04/03/09 7:28 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Hmm, maybe the shocking discovery is that there are no more clues, and that at exile they are told the idols have been found. That would shake things up back at camp.
Oowatanite		#23	[-]
Posts: 7233 (04/03/09 7:48 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	hagiz1 wrote: this is from the press release THE NEWLY MERGED TRIBE BEGINS TO SCHEME IMMEDIATELY AS OLD ALLIANCES CRUMBLE AND NEW ONES BEGIN TO FORM, ON "SURVIVOR: TOCANTINS - THE BRAZILIAN HIGHLANDS" A power player decides to come into the merge fighting, but his plan may be thwarted before it can be carried out. Meanwhile, an exiled pair makes a shocking discovery. the thing that interest me is "exiled pair"? they're still sending people to exile? how? and what shocking discovery they're talking about? There is no exile this episode. They are talking about Erinn and Joe who shockingly discover that Joe's idol is fake. Erinn probably sees Brendan's HII when they make some sort of deal, and then Erinn tells poor Joe that his idol is fake.
Olmec Donald		#24	[-]
Posts: 408 (04/03/09 7:50 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The power player sounds like Joe (plan being to use the idol) or Coach. Can't see the Exiles splitting so soon.
hagiz1		#25	[-]
Posts: 391 (04/03/09 8:02 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Oowatanite wrote: hagiz1 wrote: this is from the press release THE NEWLY MERGED TRIBE BEGINS TO SCHEME IMMEDIATELY AS OLD ALLIANCES CRUMBLE AND NEW ONES BEGIN TO FORM, ON "SURVIVOR: TOCANTINS - THE BRAZILIAN HIGHLANDS" A power player decides to come into the merge fighting, but his plan may be thwarted before it can be carried out. Meanwhile, an exiled pair makes a shocking discovery. the thing that interest me is "exiled pair"? they're still sending people to exile? how? and what shocking discovery they're talking about? There is no exile this episode. They are talking about Erinn and Joe who shockingly discover that Joe's idol is fake. Erinn probably sees Brendan's HII when they make some sort of deal, and then Erinn tells poor Joe that his idol is fake. yeah I see that and it fits with the first clue too. Joe going to merge trying to take down a Timbira member with his idol, only knowing in the end that his idol is fake, so his plan is thwarted
bryanpasa		#26	[-]
Posts: 479 (04/03/09 10:06 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Heliox wrote: Anyone have an idea of the merge tribe name. Snitnacot? Lizarb? Or are we going to get a completely fictional word from Tyson, as we did in Micronesia? I don't have idea but most of the time they combine the tribe names": JalaBira or Timbalapao
EnricoV		#27	[-]
Posts: 4315 (04/03/09 10:15 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Heliox wrote: intlschizo wrote: Sydney: Taj's four-way alliance. Totally unexpected but incredibly strategically the right thing to do for her. Very brilliant. Gee, I thought she was only 'second tier smart'. (glares at Probst) JP said he thought she was smart for the exile alliance (as does Sydney). It is her sloppy control over the HII that is getting her a lower grade in game play. That's pretty short-sighted though. The most effective use of a HII is not having it and using it, but using the knowledge of it. Consider how it worked this week ... she doesn't have it in her possession, but it was because of it that JT voted to keep her. Probst is too simple-minded to appreciate things like that. He's stupid enough to think that a male who wins the most challenges means he's the best player.
crzypunk2004		#28	[-]
Posts: 4298 (04/03/09 10:17 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Taj showing JT the idol even though it was after he had found it in her bag is what probably kept her in the game.
EnricoV		#29	[-]
Posts: 4316 (04/03/09 10:20 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Heliox wrote: Anyone have an idea of the merge tribe name. Snitnacot? Lizarb? Or are we going to get a completely fictional word from Tyson, as we did in Micronesia? Coach's Tribe
Spanky Hot Dog		#30	[-]
Posts: 2634 (04/04/09 2:28 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	hagiz1 wrote: A power player decides to come into the merge fighting, but his plan may be thwarted before it can be carried out. My guess is that Joe tries to do something but his hurt knee takes him out before he can.
SYJYTG		#31	[-]
Posts: 94 (04/04/09 5:28 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	A feast brings a welcome surprise for one tribe and foreboding news for the other as the unequal tribes are merged at last! The newly merged tribe begins to scheme immediately as old alliances crumble and new ones begin to form. Who will emerge as the leader of the new tribe? .
tullfan2		#32	[-]
Posts: 3262 (04/04/09 6:55 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Spanky Hot Dog wrote: hagiz1 wrote: A power player decides to come into the merge fighting, but his plan may be thwarted before it can be carried out. My guess is that Joe tries to do something but his hurt knee takes him out before he can. I wouldn't exactly consider Joe to be a power player. He is this seasons meat head. The 'power player' (at least he thinks he is) is Coach who morphs into "The Dragon Slayer".
crzypunk2004		#33	[-]
Posts: 4300 (04/04/09 9:02 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm starting to think that the F3 will be JT, Taj and Stephen then Taj becomes the last blindside.
goohst		#34	[-]
Posts: 223 (04/04/09 9:13 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	tullfan2 wrote: Spanky Hot Dog wrote: hagiz1 wrote: A power player decides to come into the merge fighting, but his plan may be thwarted before it can be carried out. My guess is that Joe tries to do something but his hurt knee takes him out before he can. I wouldn't exactly consider Joe to be a power player. He is this seasons meat head. The 'power player' (at least he thinks he is) is Coach who morphs into "The Dragon Slayer". It's a he, so not a Taj idol plan. Stephen is banking on exile alliance. That leaves Tyson, Coach, Brendan, JT or Joe to do something. Tyson + Coach don't need to make a move. That leaves Brendan, JT, or Joe. Case for Joe Joe has really got perceived power. Erinn looks prepared to flip, and she could be the tie vote. He thinks he has the idol. We know he's likely to be medivaced. Joe could even try to flip to Timbira. I think Joe fits the description because if he stays with Jalapao and tries to get Erinn to flip, he loses, and if he goes to Timbira, he loses. I could see something like Joe trying to get votes put on him so he can idol a Timbira, but the exile alliance just lets him kill himself. The exile alliance then shows up with 5 votes and nails Tyson. Case against Joe He's been shown as not exactly on top of things. He's got no development. He's not a power player in reality. Logically, he wouldn't want to scheme too much, he'd want to work Brendan, Sierra, and Erinn and then set himself or Erinn as a swing vote once Coach and Tyson are gone. Case for JT They showed us him learning about the idol (!!). He's been getting the "I'm smarter than I look edit". He could wiggle his way into the exile alliance officially, and the "may be thwarted" would be the obvious- he WILL be first targeted at the merge. Since we know he makes at least f8, the "may" helps him. And on top of everything, he is THE power player. Case against JT What plan would he need to make? He knows they need to pull in at least one Timbira, and he's the only member without connections to a Timbira. He has noone he specifically needs to work on... Joe works on Erinn, Stephen and Taj work on Sierra and Brendan. JT works on... Debbie Case for Brendan If JT is powerplayer #1, Brendan is powerplayer #1b. He is the one that would take action to keep the Jalapaos in the game. Taj has known longevity, Stephen looks safe until rafting, and Sierra would be targeted after Brendan. Besides, it is known Brendan holds the idol. My thought is: the exile alliance falls apart? If it does, the could the "may be thwarted" be a precursor to a relatively near boot? Joe gets medivaced, the exile alliance works for one round booting Tyson and then falls apart? Case against Brendan Hmm... I think it's Brendan or Joe.
pushingjate		#35	[-]
Posts: 2712 (04/04/09 9:41 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	In the previews after the last episode, there was nothing shown about strategy, so I think Joe is leaving next week after he's med-evaced. They've been showing his infected cut for the past 2-3 episodes, so I say he's the next to go. And I really don't think the fake idol comes into play this season at all. If you watch the insider clips, Erinn knows that the idol has been found so Brendan/Sierra are going to be forced to bring Erinn into the fold in some manner, so whether they just tell her they have the idol and exclude the exile island alliance we'll have to see.
crzypunk2004		#36	[-]
Posts: 4302 (04/04/09 10:08 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I was listening to Sydney's interview and it really seems like JP does not like Taj at all even while they were shooting the show lol. Sydney mentions at one point that the tc where Sandy was voted off, Taj blew up at Jeff because he was attacking her and Sydney said that Taj had every right to be upset and was surprised that they didn't show that blow up.
intlschizo		#37	[-]
Posts: 7 (04/04/09 10:16 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm sure they'll show it eventually - online or in another clip show or something. Remember, there's a fan favorite that we vote for, and if Taj gets that from us, JP will lose his shit. Does anybody have a link to that interview/commentary? Last Edited By: intlschizo 04/04/09 10:22 AM. Edited 1 times.
rattt	Dragonslayer--a 1981 Disney movie	#38	[-]
Posts: 11 (04/04/09 10:57 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Dragonslayer was a 1981 Disney movie which was nominated for at least 2 Academy Awards (visual effects and original music score.) It follows a young wizard who meets danger and opposition as he attempts to defeat a dragon. There are nine (9) main characters in the movie (think Final 9). 1) Vermithrax Perjorative-- the dragon who terrorizes the kingdom 2) Valerian--leader of an expedition to rid the kingdom of the dragon (is actually a female) 3) Ulrich--the only remaining wizard alive 4) Casiodorus--King of the land (very unconvincing liar) 5) Tyrian--follows the expedition under the King's orders 6) Galen--apprentice to Ulrich the wizard 7) Hodge--an older servant to Ulrich the wizard 8) Elspeth--Princess of the kingdom who has been shielded from sacrafice to the dragon and 9) Emrys James--Valerian's father--the blacksmith who shields Galen from the King's soldiers. The gist of the story can be found on Wikipedia with the actual ending--The King takes credit for slaying the dragon--But it may be a clue if you can arrange the survivor final nine (assume Joe is a medevac casualty) with the outcome of the Dragonslayer--thanks for listening--rattt
crzypunk2004		#39	[-]
Posts: 4310 (04/04/09 11:45 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm bored so these are my predictions Merge boot- Joe - is the one air lifted to a hospital, Jalapao looks to be DUN! or maybe not? Jury #1- Tyson - Erinn blindsides him Jury #2- Brendan - Exile alliance no more and say hello to the grammy winner/nominee, southern boy and the new york jew trio. Taj/Stephen gives JT the idol after failing to win an IC and Brendan goes Jury #3- Coach- Erinn finally slays the dragon Jury #4- Sierra - has no allies and is pissed at Taj (Sierra is seen yelling at what is assumed to be a woman that sounds like taj in the previews during the reacap) tries to get her out but fails . Jury #5- Debbie - utr non-threatening female boot Jury #6- Erinn- she took out her enemies and her work is done Jury #7- Taj- Never realized that the 2 guys were F2 partners and is blindsided when they decide to take each other to the F2 over her Last Edited By: crzypunk2004 04/04/09 11:47 AM. Edited 1 times.
Heliox		#40	[-]
Posts: 2067 (04/04/09 11:55 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	crzypunk2004 wrote: I was listening to Sydney's interview and it really seems like JP does not like Taj at all even while they were shooting the show lol. Sydney mentions at one point that the tc where Sandy was voted off, Taj blew up at Jeff because he was attacking her and Sydney said that Taj had every right to be upset and was surprised that they didn't show that blow up. Man, why don't we get to see that kind of stuff. The frustration of reality tv shows is that they feed us a story that they want us to believe. For the most part it is alright as the editing overall is very good, but when you hear that we are missing some juicy bits, it is obnoxious. I guess JP didn't come off looking well, or we would have seen that blow out. Someone needs to ask Taj about that incident when she is interviewed post show. JP said he thought she was smart for the exile alliance (as does Sydney). It is her sloppy control over the HII that is getting her a lower grade in game play. That's pretty short-sighted though. The most effective use of a HII is not having it and using it, but using the knowledge of it. Consider how it worked this week ... she doesn't have it in her possession, but it was because of it that JT voted to keep her. Enrico V: Probst is too simple-minded to appreciate things like that. He's stupid enough to think that a male who wins the most challenges means he's the best player. I think JP sees the whole picture, as he has seen the outcome of the show, right? But I do agree with you enrico in that he doesn't see the female player as the smart player in almost any circumstance. Taj probably did save herself by allowing the boys (JT/Stephen) to have hold of the idol, and thereby showing complete trust in their alliance. It may have saved her this past episode when they were waffling over Sydney or her.

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