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I've said for a while that there are "good" N's and "bad" N's, even in the same rating. Tyson was N. My gosh, he was reveling in villainy: His promise to Jerry, his sarcasm about the name "coach" (I was ROFL at that), and his "make 'em cry" stuff. Here's the reason it was, for the most part good: It showed self-awareness. He knew exactly what he was saying, was BS'ing others and making fun of it, and there was a distinct lack of editing cues that he's a jerk (no "squeal like a pig" twangy music, no N SPVs). The only true zinger Negative for him was his expression when Jerry went. I got the sense he was truly surprised, like he had a little mini-surprise backstab of his own. The fact that he was having a good time being so sarcastic and snide is not P. It's "good" N. MY only question was whether he was OTTN or CPN. The fact that he's getting no N SPV is a good sign for him, but in all I think this is all leading up to his blindside.

Coach, OTOH, was edited as a jerk. Plenty of N SPVs about him, more BS rationalizing, more hypocrisy ("let's not talk trash in a small group about someone..." - "Boy did you see what Erinn did?" 7th grade girls could take bitchy lessons from him). And the thing about Erinn's expression was way, way OTT. The editors showed it to us twice - even had him saying he was practicing it. Gad, talk about an obsessive weirdo. OTTN (and I'm tempted to NN him) is based on the edit, not just what he said. His negativity was relentless and - this is a key - lacking in self-awareness. That, at least, is how his N was edited. And that's what we're all about here.

Re Erinn: I have to rewatch. Being relieved that someone is taking your place in the "next boot" category is not in itself N. It's human, and natural, and very common (what do you expect? Her to be indifferent or disappointed?). And she had a confessional that was about Jerry and was both strategic and reasonably sympathetic to poor Jer's position. So yes, there was the grin, but one must also acknowledge a pretty decent and honest confessional about the situation. I'd give that whole episode an M for her, if I felt inclined to give her a tone rating at all (why hasn't anyone just said she was CP?) Yes, coach might be miffed that Erin was happy, wh8ich he HATED - HATED HATED HATED. Okay, dude. I think we get the idea. Compare Erinn's reaction to Coach's reaction to Erinn. He was frigging OTT about it. (and behind it all was the clear insinuation that he hated Erinn's reaction cuz that meant Erinn was indeed going to stay when he wanted her to go, and that's what he really hated.)

And it is nuts to claim that when a full-blown OTTN person gives N SPV to someone else it must of necessity be accurate! In fact, I'd guess that in most cases we can assume the exact reverse.

All that aside, I'm still flummoxed by the high placement Erinn's getting in many people's winning lists. Ignoring the oddity of talking about "well-crafted UTR episodes", I am of the opinion that if Erinn was a balding, short overweight man of 50 with the same edit he'd be on nobody's list.