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Who's the proxy for Walt? Or wasn't he supposed to be on the island in the first place? There were people with kids in the back part of the plane. The tail section... The flash thing was more reminiscent of the others jumping in time so I guess the flash was there to reconnect the O6 with the island jumpers. The plane may have crashed on the island in the future and only the O6 may have gone back to Dharma time on the island where Jin, Sawyer, etc. are. Or the plane did not crash at all and Rock Me Lapideus will have a hard time explaining about how he lost passengers when he gets to Guam.

I'm guessing Widmore does know about the Lamplighter hatch under the church. That would explain how he was able to get the freighter so close to the island. But it doesn't provide exact information because of the probability thing. I guess if you're close enough to the island, and if the island wants you, it'll get you. And why would Ms Hawking work with both Ben and Widmore? Is she some sort of neutral judge or arbiter in the whole scheme of things? She's got those coal black eyes that just make her seem alien oil monster-like scary. Maybe she's an angel, or a genie from a bottle, or Other from the island?

I can't imagine that Ben would actually kill Penny in front of her kid or Desmond. I can't even imagine that Desmond and Penny would have had enough time to sail their boat from England to California in such a short amount of time so the marina location may have nothing to do with Desmond. And Ben probably would have had to kill both Desmond and Penny to make that leisurely phone call and that couldn't be possible if the island still has plans for Desmond. And how would Lady Hawking know that the island has plans for Desmond? Has she popped into the future and seen what happens. This whole Desmond and company mess is too complicated.

Funny that someone buying 78 seats wouldn't have triggered some sort of terrorist strip search of Hurley. Now there's something to contemplate. The Indian dude seemed like he could be a terrorist and a bomb would have been a good way to get the plane to crash on the island. Maybe the island kept any bomb from actually exploding. I guess we'll get all the answers next week. Yeah, right.

Antithesys wrote:

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The six coordinates displayed in the Lamppost:

1 - 0 27 16.5 n, 158 39 17.6 e - about halfway between Micronesia and the Solomon Islands. It's the only plot on the list within a few thousand kilometers of Guam, but it's nowhere near a direct flight path from LAX.
2 - 24 14 33 s, 172 15 17.5 e - a couple hundred kilometers south of Vanuatu
3 - 23 17 36.5 s, 163 4 3.7 e - just west of the Cook Islands
4 - 28 15 59.2 s, 135 21 49.3 e - several hundred kilometers west of the Pitcairn Islands
5 - 15 42 45 s, 145 57 27.1 e - smack dab in the middle of the Palliser Islands of French Polynesia, eight miles east of Toau atoll
6 - 29 43 31.3 s, 174 17 32.5 e - essentially the middle of nowhere, somewhere between the Cooks and New Zealand

They plot no real pattern; the first four zigzag southeast across Oceania and then 5 and 6 zig north and then southwest. They don't make any kind of ring that the island could be in the middle of, and if they represent possibilities for the island's location then at least #5 would be eliminated because it's in the middle of a populated archipelago.

The coordinates next to 316 on the flight list Hawking gives Jack are simply the coordinates of downtown Los Angeles.

At the end of last season it it seemed like the island might be inside this circle (at the time) but I can't remember the exact logic behind drawing the circle. It had something to do with comments about where they claimed to have been shipwrecked, where they were found (Membata Island?), and some distance (3000 miles) they travelled on Penny's boat the Searcher.