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Drew B		#2301	[-]
Posts: 4245 (02/10/09 7:19 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't think any of them are arrogant to the point that it's a problem. Leah is possibly the least arrogant, but she is also the MOST useless, so any whiff of arrogance on her part (meaning if she is not constantly flagellating herself and crying about being unworthy) is ten times worse than from any of the judges who actually can cook...
CatNamedRudy		#2302	[-]
Posts: 3114 (02/10/09 7:23 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	McWolcott wrote: Fabio is not an arrogant ass, and Stefan has admitted when he screwed up as well, I think just by being European and speaking in a different manner you are assuming arrogance. Confidence is not arrogance. Stefan has won the most challenges, so he backs it up. JAMIE was arrogant. So is Hosea. It's just not as obvious I guess to some. Hosea is totally arrogant! And he's a jealous fuck. I never saw Fabio as being arrogant. A bit sensitive to criticism but not arrogant. Stefan is arrogant but I'm liking him a lot more now as the show moves forward. He does admit when he screws up and he was knocked down a couple pegs when he finished in the bottom three. Hosea is just an asshole. He has not one single redeeming quality!
stinkycheese		#2303	[-]
Posts: 52 (02/10/09 8:14 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think I'm more than capable of differentiating between being European and being a jackass. Being direct and European is not mutually exclusive. I deal with plenty of fellow Americans who have their head up their asses. I agree, Drew, that the arrogance won't get in the way of the competition. I merely suggesting that I think Fabio is less endearing, personally, than what we see on the show. The comments he's made goes beyond a whimsical defense of his dishes. Just as I think Carla is no so over the top in real life as she is edited on the show. Just as I suspect Stefan is probably a pretty cool guy when not trying to achieve global culinary domination.
Drew B		#2304	[-]
Posts: 4248 (02/10/09 8:41 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	stinkycheese wrote: I agree, Drew, that the arrogance won't get in the way of the competition. I merely suggesting that I think Fabio is less endearing, personally, than what we see on the show. The comments he's made goes beyond a whimsical defense of his dishes. Agreed that Fabio's clear downfall of "character" is how petulant and defensive he gets when anybody criticizes his food. Fortunately, this is not "Top Best Friend" so I don't really have to LIKE somebody to want them to do well. My favorite chefs haven't always been the most likable ones -- they've been the ones who showed me the most promise early on (although some of them like Malarkey and Jamie crashed and burned thereafter).
EnricoV		#2305	[-]
Posts: 4077 (02/10/09 8:51 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	McWolcott wrote: Fabio is not an arrogant ass, and Stefan has admitted when he screwed up as well, I think just by being European and speaking in a different manner you are assuming arrogance. Confidence is not arrogance. Stefan has won the most challenges, so he backs it up. JAMIE was arrogant. So is Hosea. It's just not as obvious I guess to some. Oh, please. I've been around enough foreign people, both in this country and theirs, to be affected by it ... good or bad. They're not arrogant because they're foreign. They're just arrogant because they think they're better than all the others, and that they deserve to be there more. That they both happen to be foreign is just a coincidence. I'd agree, though, and say Jamie was arrogant. I don't find Hosea arrogant.
Drew B		#2306	[-]
Posts: 4249 (02/10/09 8:58 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	EnricoV wrote: McWolcott wrote: Fabio is not an arrogant ass, and Stefan has admitted when he screwed up as well, I think just by being European and speaking in a different manner you are assuming arrogance. Confidence is not arrogance. Stefan has won the most challenges, so he backs it up. JAMIE was arrogant. So is Hosea. It's just not as obvious I guess to some. Oh, please. I've been around enough foreign people, both in this country and theirs, to be affected by it ... good or bad. They're not arrogant because they're foreign. They're just arrogant because they think they're better than all the others, and that they deserve to be there more. That they both happen to be foreign is just a coincidence. I'd agree, though, and say Jamie was arrogant. I don't find Hosea arrogant. Um, am I missing something? Stefan, Jamie & Fabio ARE better than all the others and DO deserve to be there more. Is there something wrong with them recognizing that simple fact?
EnricoV		#2307	[-]
Posts: 4078 (02/10/09 9:04 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Drew B wrote: Um, am I missing something? Stefan, Jamie & Fabio ARE better than all the others and DO deserve to be there more. Is there something wrong with them recognizing that simple fact? Apparently you are. They fucking eliminated Jamie. And should have elminated Fabio a couple weeks ago. How does that translate to either of them, especially her being better?
TheEasyOne		#2308	[-]
Posts: 1351 (02/10/09 10:35 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	EnricoV wrote: McWolcott wrote: Fabio is not an arrogant ass, and Stefan has admitted when he screwed up as well, I think just by being European and speaking in a different manner you are assuming arrogance. Confidence is not arrogance. Stefan has won the most challenges, so he backs it up. JAMIE was arrogant. So is Hosea. It's just not as obvious I guess to some. Oh, please. I've been around enough foreign people, both in this country and theirs, to be affected by it ... good or bad. They're not arrogant because they're foreign. They're just arrogant because they think they're better than all the others, and that they deserve to be there more. That they both happen to be foreign is just a coincidence. I'd agree, though, and say Jamie was arrogant. I don't find Hosea arrogant. are you kidding me? that douchefuck is so full of himself you could tell by the sick smug look he gives off each and every week. the reason he constantly trashes stefan in his confessional for no reason is because he's insecure that he won't win (which he won't) because of stefan.
seaguy		#2309	[-]
Posts: 14052 (02/10/09 10:42 PM) AI Forum Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Hosea is a total douchebag. It's hilarious watching his seething jealousy of Stefan.
donutsrule		#2310	[-]
Posts: 285 (02/10/09 11:48 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I can totally imagine Hosea shouting "In your face!" Homer Simpson style if he'd won as many challenges as Stefan has.
EnricoV		#2311	[-]
Posts: 4079 (02/11/09 1:12 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	TheEasyOne wrote: are you kidding me? that douchefuck is so full of himself you could tell by the sick smug look he gives off each and every week. the reason he constantly trashes stefan in his confessional for no reason is because he's insecure that he won't win (which he won't) because of stefan. No, not kidding. And just to support my point, how can one be insecure and be arrogant at the same time. Insecurity means you don't think you measure up. Arrogant means you think you measure more than you do. Can't be both, you douchefuck.
seaguy		#2312	[-]
Posts: 14080 (02/11/09 1:19 AM) AI Forum Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Lots of people have an air of arrogance about them but it's an act because they are insecure and self conscious. I have met people in my life who I felt acted arrogant and full of themselves and then I got to know them and told them that they were perceived that way. A lot of times they say it's an act or a defense mechanism because they are either painfully shy or self conscious/insecure. So it's not out of the realm of possibility. However, I just like to go with my analysis that he's a whiny ass loser douchebag who is seething with jealousy at anyone who's ever been better at him at pretty much anything in life.
Heliox		#2313	[-]
Posts: 1885 (02/11/09 2:41 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Carla is goddess.. that is all.
The Smoking Nun		#2314	[-]
Posts: 2231 (02/11/09 2:53 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	EnricoV wrote: TheEasyOne wrote: are you kidding me? that douchefuck is so full of himself you could tell by the sick smug look he gives off each and every week. the reason he constantly trashes stefan in his confessional for no reason is because he's insecure that he won't win (which he won't) because of stefan. No, not kidding. And just to support my point, how can one be insecure and be arrogant at the same time. Insecurity means you don't think you measure up. Arrogant means you think you measure more than you do. Can't be both, you douchefuck. I think Hosea is trying to project arrogance, but it's just his pitiful way of competing with Stefan. In other words, he's bluffing.
tdugan333		#2315	[-]
Posts: 9587 (02/11/09 4:48 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	OK so I just finished watching season one and I loved loved LOVED that they showed Tiffanie to be the lying sack of shit that she was through the whole season. That was hysterical. And no I don't think she got a bad edit. LOL and that whack job Irish dude. I still think CJ is my favorite contestant of all time, but Stephen was SO ENTERTAINING!
EnricoV		#2316	[-]
Posts: 4080 (02/11/09 5:27 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	seaguy wrote: Lots of people have an air of arrogance about them but it's an act because they are insecure and self conscious. I have met people in my life who I felt acted arrogant and full of themselves and then I got to know them and told them that they were perceived that way. A lot of times they say it's an act or a defense mechanism because they are either painfully shy or self conscious/insecure. So it's not out of the realm of possibility. However, I just like to go with my analysis that he's a whiny ass loser douchebag who is seething with jealousy at anyone who's ever been better at him at pretty much anything in life. I didn't say he wasn't that ... just that he wasn't arrogant.
veiledpresence	arrogance vs insecurity	#2317	[-]
Posts: 597 (02/11/09 7:54 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Seaguy has it nailed. Usually people act out "two sides of one coin". Behaving arrogantly is the result of feeling insecure and inferior and needing to find and appear to be "balanced". When you know you are good, and are comfortable in it, you dont need to rub it in or call attention to it. You can just appreciate it. I would wager that deep inside, Stephan feels insecure and inadequate too.
Taniwha Is Waiting		#2318	[-]
Posts: 2437 (02/11/09 8:38 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The new TV Guide has a profile of the last 5 chefs. So much for Leah being the last arrogant. She says: "But the more challenges we went through, the more confident I felt. I realized I'm better than most of the chefs here." Blark. Stefan's quotation: "They're all great. Everybody has something to offer."
downtown somewhere in Texas		#2319	[-]
Posts: 1519 (02/11/09 8:41 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	hooty-hoo
seaguy		#2320	[-]
Posts: 14092 (02/11/09 9:45 AM) AI Forum Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Hootie Hoo? That means only one thing.................

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