An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals

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Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#2661	[-]
Posts: 6998 (01/01/09 8:45 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Olmec Donald wrote: Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote: You won "Douchebag ofthe year* and the "Most verbose with nothing to contribute" awards! Congratulations! You're on your way to overtaking John Edwards for biggest douche in the universe! And yet he has started a thread that has reached 134 pages. Show me the one you made. mfrimley wrote: Olmec Donald was robbed in the most obvious ghostie category. Awww, frimley, I was pulling for you! 'Tis a shame. It is 134 pages of nothing but repetitive arguments. If Artiee actually cared about improving the show, he would be posting audience statistics proving that there is a coralation with his idea about artificiality and the ratings drop. I agree with him that the audience finds the show artificial, but not because of the tribe format. It's because they want more of an emphasis on wilderness survival. And I can back that up.
ArtieeLange		#2662	[-]
Posts: 550 (01/01/09 11:33 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote: I agree with him that the audience finds the show artificial And you agree that todays audiences prefer reality to fakeness and artificiality. And you agree that the tribe format of the current system involves artificially forced teams which result in both artificial alliances and artificial team-chalenge wins. And you agree that those factors result in artificial tribal councils, finals, and winners. I never said the audience hated the way the system designed, even most of the Survivor nazis in this forum don't recognize its all based on the fake team selections of episode one, its a totally new concept to them because theyve never analyzed the game itself, simply content to obsess over the players. Even some in this thread, who had it explained it to them, still dont get it. I am saying that the result of these artificial teams is that untested and undeserving players end up in the finals, and todays audience know bullshit when they see it.
Kitty Pryde1		#2663	[-]
Posts: 7959 (01/01/09 11:38 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ArtieeLange wrote: Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote: I agree with him that the audience finds the show artificial And you agree that todays audiences prefer reality to fakeness and artificiality. And you agree that the tribe format of the current system involves artificially forced teams which result in both artificial alliances and artificial team-chalenge wins. And you agree that those factors result in artificial tribal councils, finals, and winners. I never said the audience hated the way the system designed, even most of the Survivor nazis in this forum don't recognize its all based on the fake team selections of episode one, its a totally new concept to them because theyve never analyzed the game itself, simply content to obsess over the players. Even some in this thread, who had it explained it to them, still dont get it. I am saying that the result of these artificial teams is that untested and undeserving players end up in the finals, and todays audience know bullshit when they see it. You've never explained why your system, which has TESTED and undeserving players in the finals, is better.
ArtieeLange		#2664	[-]
Posts: 551 (01/02/09 12:01 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kitty Pryde1 wrote: You've never explained why your system, which has TESTED and undeserving players in the finals, is better. Every statement you made two pages ago has been gang-owned by me and OD, it's time for you to reply, if you can.
Kitty Pryde1		#2665	[-]
Posts: 7960 (01/02/09 12:12 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ArtieeLange wrote: Kitty Pryde1 wrote: You've never explained why your system, which has TESTED and undeserving players in the finals, is better. Every statement you made two pages ago has been gang-owned by me and OD, it's time for you to reply, if you can. Hmmm...nah. Not until you go back and respond to everything that's been said to refute your system in full, as opposed to picking and choosing bits of posts.
ArtieeLange		#2666	[-]
Posts: 552 (01/02/09 1:05 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kitty Pryde1 wrote: Hmmm...nah. Not until you go back and respond to everything that's been said to refute your system in full, as opposed to picking and choosing bits of posts. Starting with post #2652, where your argument got dismissed and laughed at. Then post #2660 where your logic got invalidated. And #2669 where you got finished off. We made you look like a fool, and by not responding to those specific posts, you're just confirming that we're 100% correct.
BobBob77		#2667	[-]
Posts: 1927 (01/02/09 11:02 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Artie, your idea sucks. Fight that one.
ArtieeLange		#2668	[-]
Posts: 554 (01/02/09 12:28 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote: Post data to back up your arguments concerning the audience. Sure, after you either admit my system if flawless, or list any flaws.
Drboboosh2		#2669	[-]
Posts: 40 (01/02/09 1:58 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well it's pretty clear that Artie's idea is flawless. However, I am concerned that it may hurt the show because it seems like a lot of people refuse to accept its greatness. But perhaps seeing it in action would change their minds.
Von Malec		#2670	[-]
Posts: 27 (01/02/09 2:37 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	this is 135 pages of failure...BITCH IBL
ArtieeLange		#2671	[-]
Posts: 555 (01/02/09 8:07 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Drboboosh2 wrote: Well it's pretty clear that Artie's idea is flawless. However, I am concerned that it may hurt the show because it seems like a lot of people refuse to accept its greatness. But perhaps seeing it in action would change their minds. It's not a lot of people. It's not even a lot of people in this forum. Just the ones here because they are obsessed with the contestants, specifically the weaker ones. Anyone who actually understands the current system and my system has no difficulty seeing that mine is better.
Olmec Donald		#2672	[-]
Posts: 192 (01/02/09 8:29 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Von Malec wrote: this is 135 pages of failure...BITCH Start a thread that lasts 135 pages, and then perhaps someone will take you seriously...BITCH BobBob77 wrote: Artie, your idea sucks. Fight that one. I'll field this one. Your statement is worthless without explanation and evidence. People hate on Artie for his style of argument, but he still explains himself and evidences his statements, unlike haters such as yourself. FOAD you worthless piece of Chet. m0t0 maj1 wrote: This idea = Project Runway FOAD asswipe. You have contributed absolutely nothing to this discussion. Don't defile this thread with your disgusting prescence. Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote: I agree with him that the audience finds the show artificial, but not because of the tribe format. It's because they want more of an emphasis on wilderness survival. And I can back that up. By all means, Dr. Will. Please bring in this evidence.
Olmec Donald		#2673	[-]
Posts: 194 (01/02/09 9:00 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	PrettyGoodYear1988 wrote: Have you ever even played an ORG? The challenges are mental, obviously. Then it's not worth doing since it is not a fair representation of Artie's system. It does not measure different attributes equally in various challenges, but is overwhelmingly skewed towrds mental strength. If you run an ORG according to this system and make conclusions based on the result, it's a classic straw man argument.
Kirblar		#2674	[-]
Posts: 7314 (01/02/09 9:02 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	@ the Ghosties coming out.
PrettyGoodYear1988		#2675	[-]
Posts: 1908 (01/02/09 9:06 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Ya, Olmec Donald is the most obvious ghostie ever. And he's obviously never played an ORG before, either.
Von Malec		#2676	[-]
Posts: 34 (01/02/09 9:18 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	OD, how do you know I haven't? ....CUNT!!... (not that I'm saying my newbie self has or anything...)
Olmec Donald		#2677	[-]
Posts: 195 (01/02/09 9:22 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	PrettyGoodYear1988 wrote: Ya, Olmec Donald is the most obvious ghostie ever. Are you a complete and utter imbecile? My writing style is completely different to Artie's, as is the structure of our responses and even the extent to which we detail our responses to Kitty Pryde's woeful arguments. You don't see that? Maybe your ghostie radar needs repairing.
BobBob77		#2678	[-]
Posts: 1932 (01/02/09 9:28 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Olmec Donald wrote: PrettyGoodYear1988 wrote: Ya, Olmec Donald is the most obvious ghostie ever. Are you a complete and utter imbecile? My writing style is completely different to Artie's, as is the structure of our responses and even the extent to which we detail our responses to Kitty Pryde's woeful arguments. You don't see that? Maybe your ghostie radar needs repairing. Notice how he never actually denies being Artie's ghostie.
Olmec Donald		#2679	[-]
Posts: 196 (01/02/09 9:28 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Von Malec wrote: OD, how do you know I haven't? ....CUNT!!... (not that I'm saying my newbie self has or anything...) You have 34 posts, so I'm willing to bet against it...CUNT!!... now fuck off and don't enter this thread again unless you have something to contribute to the discussion. ArtieeLange wrote: Olmec Donald wrote: If anything, Artie's plan increases the number of alliances, mad scrambling, deal making, broken promises and general strategic gameplay. Your argument is simply not correct, and uses horribly flawed logic. Isn't it funny that they still don't get it? It's a phenomena similar to "brainwashing" that happens with repetition, they can't even imagine a system that differs from the one they've been watching for years, let alone accept one. It's like trying to retrain an already trained dog, difficult and often impossible, but not without amusement. It's true. People don't like to change, they like stay within their comfort zone. I'm like that myself on a lot of things. But a good argument can convinces me to change my views.
Olmec Donald		#2680	[-]
Posts: 197 (01/02/09 9:30 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	BobBob77 wrote: Notice how he never actually denies being Artie's ghostie. Alright, I admit it! I'm BobBob77's ghostie! You fucking moron.

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