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AnomyBC wrote:

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kishuu wrote:

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Nothing about Bob's mistake? He basically told Susie we should've voted you out the last tribal council, which tells her enough that she couldn't side with Kota and she went to vote off Marcus. That's stupid especially when Susie was the swing vote.

81. Ken Hoang, Crystal Cox and Matty Whitmore vote off Kelly over Sugar.

Fault has to be given to Matty. Kelly had turned on Kenny/Crystal, making it unable for them to force a tie and Matty had blatantly announced he was now in an alliance with Ace/Sugar and basically, Ken's and Crystal's votes would be rendered useless as there were already 3 votes locked for Kelly out of six.

I don't remember Bob saying that. I may have to research that. I may add something about Marcus and Bob not doing a better job trying to secure Susie's vote, but I'm not sure how to phrase it at this this point.

How had Kelly turned on Kenny and Crystal? And yeah, probably most of blame lies with Matty for his alliance with Ace, but in his defense, he actually suggested booting Sugar to Ace (who, of course, said no), and I don't think Kenny ever suggested voting off Sugar to Matty (Kenny was already targeting Ace, but at that point I think it was a little too soon for that.)

Tribal Council of the F10. When Probst ask Bob some question or something and he said 'I regret the decision I made last tribal council', referring to booting Dan over Susie.

Kelly did turn on Kenny/Crystal. She even voted for Crystal that TC she got booted. Kenny/Crystal even admitted post show in interviews that Kelly had turned on them, making them unable to force a tie.

Oowatanite wrote:

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AnomyBC wrote:

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Oowatanite wrote:

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23. Marcus Lehman is voted out shortly after throwing an immunity idol into the ocean.

Why is this even on the list at all ? Should Marcus have realized that he was about to become the victim of Burnett's last-minute insertion of the second switch-up ? Shouldn't everyone else on the jury be named for this "stupid act" as well ?

He definitely should have realized it was possible. There have been at least 3 seasons now where they had twists at Final 10 (Thailand, Cook Islands and Fiji), so it's not like it's something totally random. The bottom line is, he assuming that they were merging and he assumed that he was safe, and both of those things were stupid assumptions.

"Stupid assumptions" ? Not really. And you haven't explained why the other jurors who refused to take the extra II are not included in this "stupidity".

Kelly did not turn on Kenny and Crystal. Why would she, she had nowhere else to go. She only voted for Crystal since she knew she was toast anyway after Crystal's stupid blow-up (pre-TC) about the t.ears.

Sorry you don't read post show interviews or watch the parts of the show that don't feature the Onions. Kelly turned on K/C. It was also kinda obvious since she basically started bashing Crystal like no end about her challenge performances and basically joined up with Ace in bashing Crystal because of her tear.s after the challenge during their hike in the woods. Then when Ace denied it at TC, Kelly basically fought with the two (hence our epic Crystal VS Kelly VS Ace). Three votes were locked in, arguing with and turning on Crystal did not help at all, Kelly prevented a tie by basically going 'solo'. Sure, she's a likeable female but she screwed up strategically, especially her boot ep where she basically got into an argument between various alliances on the tribe.

I will agree that Marcus throwing out an idol was not that stupid, what was stupid of Marcus was making an alliance with Crystal, breaking that alliance by wanting to vote out Ken and then being unable to secure Susie as part of his alliance. That should replace the II one.

Sugar decided from F6 onwards she wanted supposedly 'good people' matty and bob to win. Hence, she had to help them eliminate everyone else. Crystal put it right when she said Sugar remote controlled Bob and brought him into the finals because she was an irrational player.