An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals

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ArtieeLange		#2221	[-]
Posts: 447 (12/05/08 1:49 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	MonkeeSpanker wrote: I just might have to find another show to watch. It bothers the hell out of me seeing people like Courtney - who couldn't even swing a sword she was so weak, make it so far in the game. I disagree with your statement saying most people would like to do away with physical challenges, I believe most people find that to be the best part of the show. It has become more apparent to me that most of the people around here were the nonatheletes who were picked last in gym class and they root for the weaker competitors because they can relate. The problem is that TV is full of people like that. I want a more dangerous show where challenges are really that. Remember this is SURVIVOR, not a group of people out for a weekend camping trip - lets hope the producers realize this and stop casting weaklings. Excellent post, and of course this last episode proves all your excellent points. This seasons remaining Survivors are, as always, the weakest of the weak, just like the title of this thread which started a year ago. Why? Because the weak mob up and vote off the strong. Even Matty turned out to be a dress-wearing pussy. Bob is the only winner left, but he is only around because he won immunity (as confirmed by the weaklings). Poor Corrine had the best lines, she is someone who also understands the pathetic mess of losers she was surrounded by, and after the ridiculous "pick rock from bag" AND "rock paper scissors" she was once again unlucky, disadvantaged, and stated "I don't know what to do to save myself". That's because she had no chance to save herself, and that's why the current system fails, and thats why my system succeeds. Guaranteed. Winner camp of winners: 1) Kitty Pryde1 2) PrettyGoodYear1988 3) MonkeeSpanker Loser camp of losers: 1) PeachessandCreeams 2) SuperJude 3) Wuming Shi
PrettyGoodYear1988		#2222	[-]
Posts: 1356 (12/05/08 1:57 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Corinne could have been nice to people, won them over with her personality, and not acted like a self-entitled bitch. She did not. She admitted that she's only nice to people she likes (which in the game happened to just be Marcus, Charlie, Jacquie, and Randy). She had an awful social game and her only strategic game involved taking people she liked to the end, which was stupid, since Marcus would have likely won instead of her. Also, Sugar and Matty have both been strong strategically, as have Ken and Crystal. Susie's playing a subtle game but she hasn't been totally useless, either. Corinne easily had the worst game out of all the F7, though. Tell us who you think strong Survivors of seasons past have been who didn't fit a young, white, and pretty model, Artiee? Inquisitive minds want to know. It think a lot of this "deserving player" bullshit that's been flying around this season comes down to subtle ageism, sexism, and possibly even racism.
ArtieeLange		#2223	[-]
Posts: 448 (12/05/08 2:05 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kitty Pryde1 wrote: weaker players tend to have more interesting personalities. That is a very interesting point, Kitty Pryde1. However in my opinion, I think its due to the editing. I think all the players are equally interesting, but since the better players already excel at challenges, and are filmed as such, they have to give equal time to the weaker players as well, thus highlighting their interesting or funny comments. I refuse to believe the casting department is that incompetent, though it may very well be the case heh heh. Then again, Bob is interesting, and Susie is not. Maybe someone like you should try out for Survivor, since you are both interesting and strong.
ArtieeLange		#2224	[-]
Posts: 449 (12/05/08 2:10 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Okaaay, so now its time to vote. You four losers, PM me your votes. You can only vote for your fellow pig-losers in the pathetic loser camp, which you ended up in cause you can't even follow directions on a bulletin board thread. In 48 hours one of you fuckheads is getting voted off, and then we start over. Winner camp of winners (deservedly immune for now) 1) Kitty Pryde1 2) PrettyGoodYear1988 3) MonkeeSpanker 4) micronesia Loser camp of losers: 1) PeachessandCreeams 2) SuperJude 3) Wuming Sh 4) Everything is Eventual
ArtieeLange		#2225	[-]
Posts: 450 (12/06/08 12:44 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	PrettyGoodYear1988 wrote: He could have made all the alliances in the world amongst the stronger players, but in this situation under your system he would have never had a chance to bond with the consistently weak players Like I and others have said, since the challenges vary, your situation is unlikely. Even the conditions that could make your system even possible is unlikely, and alliances are never guaranteed anyway. Endless assumptions. With my system, all of this is known to Marcus, so he could have either won the challenge, or not acted like a challenge whore. Maybe risk getting to the bottom half before, so if it happens again he has "friends". Its up to the player what happens to the player, with my system. With the current system, this doesn't start until merge, and even then the game is affected by the initially forced artificial "teams".
ArtieeLange		#2226	[-]
Posts: 451 (12/06/08 9:24 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	micronesia wrote: The only way to make sure weaklings are not in the finals is not casting any... period I want just one season without a bunch of fuckin losers. Their only purpose of being there is for the audieance to feel superior to them cause they`re retards. We laugh about their dumb moves, that`s it. Sometimes I wish survivor wasnt that successful and didnt need the millions of tards who cant be hooked by superior strategic moves, but only by Erik-esque behaviour cause that`s all they`re able to process. Bring 18 - highly intelligent - ruthless - in at least normal physical shape contestants, and you`ll get the ULTIMATE SURVIVOR SEASON for a non-yokel audience. If they did that their ratings would be going up instead of down. Instead of judging by the applicants character, they are judging them based on the color of their skin (or age, or sexual orientation, or background, etc). They are find tokens, and it seems as though these tokens that apply to Survivor are losers with absolutely nothing going on in their lives. Look at the most interesting player in the current season: a well-accomplished PhD in Physics. The rest of them can't even spell physics (some of them think a trunk is an elephants MOUTH, how about a fucking IQ test for applicants.)
Kitty Pryde1		#2227	[-]
Posts: 6949 (12/06/08 12:03 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ArtieeLange wrote: micronesia wrote: The only way to make sure weaklings are not in the finals is not casting any... period I want just one season without a bunch of fuckin losers. Their only purpose of being there is for the audieance to feel superior to them cause they`re retards. We laugh about their dumb moves, that`s it. Sometimes I wish survivor wasnt that successful and didnt need the millions of tards who cant be hooked by superior strategic moves, but only by Erik-esque behaviour cause that`s all they`re able to process. Bring 18 - highly intelligent - ruthless - in at least normal physical shape contestants, and you`ll get the ULTIMATE SURVIVOR SEASON for a non-yokel audience. If they did that their ratings would be going up instead of down. Instead of judging by the applicants character, they are judging them based on the color of their skin (or age, or sexual orientation, or background, etc). They are find tokens, and it seems as though these tokens that apply to Survivor are losers with absolutely nothing going on in their lives. Look at the most interesting player in the current season: a well-accomplished PhD in Physics. The rest of them can't even spell physics (some of them think a trunk is an elephants MOUTH, how about a fucking IQ test for applicants.) They do have an IQ test for applicants. That's how they knew that otherwise dumb bitch Heidi Strobel had the highest IQ of anyone in the first 6 seasons of the game.
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#2228	[-]
Posts: 6316 (12/06/08 6:51 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So where is the statistical data Nash?
lemurwrench		#2229	[-]
Posts: 349 (12/06/08 7:25 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ArtieeLange wrote: Even Matty turned out to be a dress-wearing pussy. explain
Skyline		#2230	[-]
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ArtieeLange		#2231	[-]
Posts: 453 (12/07/08 6:14 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	lemurwrench wrote: ArtieeLange wrote: Even Matty turned out to be a dress-wearing pussy. explain Explain? That you need it explained is why the show is done, this is supposed to be Survivor, not "The Bachelorette".
ArtieeLange		#2232	[-]
Posts: 454 (12/07/08 10:17 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kitty Pryde1 wrote: They do have an IQ test for applicants. That's how they knew that otherwise dumb bitch Heidi Strobel had the highest IQ of anyone in the first 6 seasons of the game. I meant IQ tests that discriminate based on unqualified low scores. Anyone who thinks an elephants trunk is also its mouth should be dropped into a volcano.
ArtieeLange		#2233	[-]
Posts: 455 (12/08/08 3:57 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	PrettyGoodYear1988 wrote: Jacquie got screwed. There you go, even that tiny pea-brain of yours can recognize that, and therefore reveal the flaw of the current system. Jacquie never failed, but got fucked in the end anway. Under my system, if you never fail, you're immune. And you're voted out, it's only after you fucked up. Twice. Just like my little game just proved, the only vulnerable ones were the ones that failed to obey the thread rules, which is commenting about the subject, my system, and the one of those tossed off was the least-liked. Guaranteed. Kitty Pryde1 PrettyGoodYear1988 MonkeeSpanker micronesia PeachessandCreeams SuperJude Wuming Sh Everything is Eventual
ArtieeLange1		#2234	[-]
Posts: 178 (12/08/08 4:00 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	MonkeeSpanker wrote: most of the people around here were the nonatheletes who were picked last in gym class and they root for the weaker competitors because they can relate Sad but true. Actually its funny, but still true. MonkeeSpanker wrote: The problem is that TV is full of people like that. I want a more dangerous show where challenges are really that. Remember this is SURVIVOR, not a group of people out for a weekend camping trip - lets hope the producers realize this and stop casting weaklings. The show is dead. Check The Ultimate Fighter, just last week Dana White was commenting about his show and said "This isn't Survivor", meaning people don't get voted off, they FIGHT TO STAY ON.
Chupacabra		#2235	[-]
Posts: 10 (12/08/08 4:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	This is all wrong
PrettyGoodYear1988		#2236	[-]
Posts: 1448 (12/08/08 4:26 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If you want to watch Ultimate Fighter, by all means, watch Ultimate Fighter. Survivor has never been like your system, Artiee, even in its first season. People like Dirk and Joel were voted out over physical liabilities like Richard and Jenna. Tough cookies, but that's the game. A purist myself, I'm not a fan of the excessive twists either, but your system wants to get rid of the very basic structure that the show was built upon, which means that it would be an entirely different show. If you want to see physical dominance, watch sports (which I do). If you want to see mental dominance, watch Jeopardy.
Olmec Donald		#2237	[-]
Posts: 127 (12/08/08 4:54 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	PrettyGoodYear1988 wrote: Tell us who you think strong Survivors of seasons past have been who didn't fit a young, white, and pretty model, Artiee? Inquisitive minds want to know. It think a lot of this "deserving player" bullshit that's been flying around this season comes down to subtle ageism, sexism, and possibly even racism. Ah, yes, this argument. When you can't out-debate your opponent logically, you take a cheap shot by accusing them of some sort of discrimination (or in your case, three different sorts). I have respect for you as a poster, 1988, but this shit just doesn't fly.
lemurwrench		#2238	[-]
Posts: 356 (12/08/08 4:55 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	the challenges in ultimate fighter arent varied enough
lemurwrench		#2239	[-]
Posts: 357 (12/08/08 5:00 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ArtieeLange wrote: lemurwrench wrote: ArtieeLange wrote: Even Matty turned out to be a dress-wearing pussy. explain Explain? That you need it explained is why the show is done, this is supposed to be Survivor, not "The Bachelorette". seriously, what has matty done that would describe himas a "pussy" i certainly wouldnt call him that.
Olmec Donald		#2240	[-]
Posts: 128 (12/08/08 5:02 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	lemurwrench wrote: ArtieeLange wrote: lemurwrench wrote: ArtieeLange wrote: Even Matty turned out to be a dress-wearing pussy. explain Explain? That you need it explained is why the show is done, this is supposed to be Survivor, not "The Bachelorette". seriously, what has matty done that would describe himas a "pussy" i certainly wouldnt call him that. That dress does not suit a man.

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