Survivor Gabon Boot Spoilers (and speculation) all say Bob loses from day 1

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round peg		#2681	[-]
Posts: 74 (11/22/08 3:53 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Crystal chose someone she felt she could trust based on the little interaction her and susie had pre-game.... Just check her pre-game interview where she says some of guys are acting like dick heads and feels she and susie have a connection and might wanna have an alliance with her once the game starts..... Susie felt the same way because when Crystal picks her Susie say "I knew it!" all happy and shit.
Jim Dandy to the rescue		#2682	[-]
Posts: 482 (11/22/08 5:20 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	It irritates me when Survivors are voted out, and then complain in interviews that the people still in the game are stupid, or don't know how to play the game, and so on and so forth. Crystal, Bob and Sugar are clearly not as smart as Randy, and don't know how to play the game to his standards. And he is obviously the best judge of their game play. After all, he is gone, and they are still there. His list of the best players are people that are mostly all gone. So how can they be the best players?
LibrasAbandonedChild1		#2683	[-]
Posts: 123 (11/22/08 5:34 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Jim Dandy to the rescue wrote: It irritates me when Survivors are voted out, and then complain in interviews that the people still in the game are stupid, or don't know how to play the game, and so on and so forth. Crystal, Bob and Sugar are clearly not as smart as Randy, and don't know how to play the game to his standards. And he is obviously the best judge of their game play. After all, he is gone, and they are still there. His list of the best players are people that are mostly all gone. So how can they be the best players? Because he feels that the people he listed (Jacquie, Ace, etc), were screwed by twists and tribe swaps. While I disagree, and loathe Randy with a burning passion, his argument is plausible.
Zonker		#2684	[-]
Posts: 953 (11/22/08 5:46 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LibrasAbandonedChild1 wrote: Jim Dandy to the rescue wrote: It irritates me when Survivors are voted out, and then complain in interviews that the people still in the game are stupid, or don't know how to play the game, and so on and so forth. Crystal, Bob and Sugar are clearly not as smart as Randy, and don't know how to play the game to his standards. And he is obviously the best judge of their game play. After all, he is gone, and they are still there. His list of the best players are people that are mostly all gone. So how can they be the best players? Because he feels that the people he listed (Jacquie, Ace, etc), were screwed by twists and tribe swaps. While I disagree, and loathe Randy with a burning passion, his argument is plausible. True Words. I still love 'Survivor'. But, it has become a game of 20% skill, 80% luck.
Will		#2685	[-]
Posts: 31934 (11/22/08 5:48 PM) Not a Registered User anymore Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	roxbury123 wrote: Does Crystal remind anyone else of Sandra from Pearl Islands. I think they are very similar. They both sucked at challenges, and were very very outspoken. And they're also both AWESOME!
The Marquesan Godfather		#2686	[-]
Posts: 10995 (11/22/08 5:50 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Itt takes more than getting into a majority alliance the first 6 days of the game to win Survivor at this point
LibrasAbandonedChild1		#2687	[-]
Posts: 124 (11/22/08 5:55 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Zonker wrote: LibrasAbandonedChild1 wrote: Jim Dandy to the rescue wrote: It irritates me when Survivors are voted out, and then complain in interviews that the people still in the game are stupid, or don't know how to play the game, and so on and so forth. Crystal, Bob and Sugar are clearly not as smart as Randy, and don't know how to play the game to his standards. And he is obviously the best judge of their game play. After all, he is gone, and they are still there. His list of the best players are people that are mostly all gone. So how can they be the best players? Because he feels that the people he listed (Jacquie, Ace, etc), were screwed by twists and tribe swaps. While I disagree, and loathe Randy with a burning passion, his argument is plausible. True Words. I still love 'Survivor'. But, it has become a game of 20% skill, 80% luck. Yeah, but what pisses me off to no end is how Randy and Corinne were calling Susie dumb, and a moron all season because she flipped. That was one of the smartest things she could've done, and she is in a hugely better position than she would've been if she stayed with an alliance of six in which she was sixth in. They're just angry because it wasn't in their favor, and it's really annoying.
mtj1282		#2688	[-]
Posts: 1831 (11/22/08 6:02 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LibrasAbandonedChild1 wrote: Jim Dandy to the rescue wrote: It irritates me when Survivors are voted out, and then complain in interviews that the people still in the game are stupid, or don't know how to play the game, and so on and so forth. Crystal, Bob and Sugar are clearly not as smart as Randy, and don't know how to play the game to his standards. And he is obviously the best judge of their game play. After all, he is gone, and they are still there. His list of the best players are people that are mostly all gone. So how can they be the best players? Because he feels that the people he listed (Jacquie, Ace, etc), were screwed by twists and tribe swaps. While I disagree, and loathe Randy with a burning passion, his argument is plausible. Doesnt jeff usually say something at the begining of each season about "they must learn to adapt otherwise they will bet voted out". Dont know if he said this season but he has in many others and his words are true. Part of the game is adapting to new twists and situations, this includes tribe swaps. There was plenty ace and jacquie could have done to try to secure there spots so they have noone to blame but themselves for being voted out early. So randys argument sucks!
tullfan2		#2689	[-]
Posts: 2944 (11/22/08 7:54 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	There was plenty ace and jacquie could have done to try to secure there spots so they have noone to blame but themselves for being voted out early. I actually thought that Ace did a pretty good job in adapting when he was switched to Fang. He continued to give 100% in the challenges, he behaved well enough so that GC and Kelly were voted out before him and he succeeded in getting Matty to align with him. His mistake was underestimating Sugar, his main ally. Jacquie did try to save herself but she was screwed because Ken selected Kota outcast Kelly instead of Bob (a smart move that Probst wrongly criticized at the time).
Trixiego		#2690	[-]
Posts: 15831 (11/22/08 7:58 PM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LKMOSCAR wrote: Trixiego wrote: He did say that Crystal was a top player in the game, though. RNO: To clarify for those reading this interview in print, when you said that about Crystal… Randy: I was being totally sarcastic. Crystal from day one, she was looking at Dan and Marcus and Matty and she chooses Susie. Maybe I'm not smart enough to understand the brilliance of that move, but she left me scratching my head so many times.... Okay. I missed the next part. RNO: Who were the others who knew how to play? Randy: From being out there as well as watching, Jacquie, Ace, myself, Charlie, Corinne, Marcus has a great early game, and somewhat Kenny. Kenny is lasting longer than me and Corinne and Marcus, but if you look at it, he's gotten every break in every tribe flip-flop, and unfortunately, other strong players got the short end of the stick. I'd also put Crystal as one of the best players. I think Randy is a bit touched in the head He's practically contradicted himself about everyone he's talked about (cept himself of course) :-)
Heliox		#2691	[-]
Posts: 1353 (11/22/08 8:36 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Zonker wrote: LibrasAbandonedChild1 wrote: Jim Dandy to the rescue wrote: It irritates me when Survivors are voted out, and then complain in interviews that the people still in the game are stupid, or don't know how to play the game, and so on and so forth. Crystal, Bob and Sugar are clearly not as smart as Randy, and don't know how to play the game to his standards. And he is obviously the best judge of their game play. After all, he is gone, and they are still there. His list of the best players are people that are mostly all gone. So how can they be the best players? Because he feels that the people he listed (Jacquie, Ace, etc), were screwed by twists and tribe swaps. While I disagree, and loathe Randy with a burning passion, his argument is plausible. True Words. I still love 'Survivor'. But, it has become a game of 20% skill, 80% luck. See I don't see that. You make your own luck. How did Marcus get voted off when the twist occured? He had the advantage! He had plenty of time to play with Bob and Suzie, but he couldn't convince her enough to believe him. He was stupid enough to believe he was the heir apparent in the game, and that the 'weak' would line up behind him. The twists only heighten your ability to play the social game, or they show your weakness. Kenny and Crystal played the self described strong players, even when they were disadvantaged by numbers.
jessiiiek	get	#2692	[-]
Posts: 391 (11/22/08 8:36 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	He contradicted himself several times, but I think he was clear on Crystal NOT being a good player. I thought so? He added Crystal to top player list, as a secondary thought, like a joke, and only when asked for clarification did he admit to sarcasm, which I thought the interviewer noted right away, but knew it wouldn't necessarily come across. However, I thought it was most interesting that the Onions targetted Susie, over other more confrontational non-onions. Did Susie even attend the auction? Was she even at camp through any strategy sessions? Is Susie the most annoying? Is Susie the most threatening? Where did her target come from?
Heliox		#2693	[-]
Posts: 1354 (11/22/08 8:39 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	jessiiiek wrote: He contradicted himself several times, but I think he was clear on Crystal NOT being a good player. I thought so? He added Crystal to top player list, as a secondary thought, like a joke, and only when asked for clarification did he admit to sarcasm, which I thought the interviewer noted right away, but knew it wouldn't necessarily come across. However, I thought it was most interesting that the Onions targetted Susie, over other more confrontational non-onions. Did Susie even attend the auction? Was she even at camp through any strategy sessions? Is Susie the most annoying? Is Susie the most threatening? Where did her target come from? She was responsible for slaying their chosen one Marcus.
round peg		#2694	[-]
Posts: 85 (11/22/08 8:44 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	she ruined there plans of taking her and the rest of fang out...... And now there bitter hence there voting confessionals Corrine: "pay back is a bitch" Randy: "this vote is strictly personal"
MultiGeminii		#2695	[-]
Posts: 1227 (11/22/08 8:51 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Stupid onions, voting for personal reasons. Aren't these the ppl who pride themselves on being so much more intelligent than everyone else?
jessiiiek		#2696	[-]
Posts: 392 (11/22/08 9:43 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	round peg wrote: she ruined there plans of taking her and the rest of fang out...... And now there bitter hence there voting confessionals Corrine: "pay back is a bitch" Randy: "this vote is strictly personal" K, so several of you seem to be agreeing that Susie took out Marcus, is responsible for taking down Fang, etc. etc. Now, Susie isn't laying down to the throne of Randy, Corinne, Marcus, anyone...... she's doing her own thing. She fighting for her place in F3, as she said. Fine. I personally, have no idea of the outcome.
beatlebum79		#2697	[-]
Posts: 563 (11/22/08 9:52 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	THIS is an interesting thread. Take the speculations for what they're worth.
ncassaro		#2698	[-]
Posts: 324 (11/22/08 10:46 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The way I see it, there are a few scenarios. 1. Corinne pulls out a miracle and sticks around to F3. In this case, she wins for sure. (1% probability) 2. Matty and Kenny make F3. Matty wins. (20% probability.) 3. Matty OR Kenny make F3. Whichever one is there wins. I'm guessing Kenny. (78% probability) 4. The three Fang women make F3. This would be the first ever all-goat F3. It'd be fascinating and I have no idea who would win. I want it to happen, but it's so unlikely. (1% probability).
chad6		#2699	[-]
Posts: 2005 (11/22/08 10:57 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Number 4 would be awesome because it would be so unpredictable. And to be considered a "goat" don't you have to be taken to the finals? How could there be three goats?
reggierules		#2700	[-]
Posts: 2094 (11/22/08 11:04 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	In an all goat final 3, give the win to the man. As usual. Crystal wins.

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