OT POLITICAL THREAD: Roland Burris Appreciation Thread

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TobaccoRhoda		#1821	[-]
Posts: 27196 (10/27/08 10:37 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Er, hose? You know very well that I was commenting on Meatball posting that article in which the explanation for why the issue was being challenged was contained right in the lead. But, oddly, it's always the dems being 'inclusive' and the republicans being Machiavellian for opposing it when the courts do something like keeping the polls open til midnight so the vans can bus voters around to vote more than once, like happened here in St. Louis in 2004. I'm not saying the republicans don't do the same thing, but if they do, at least in this area they haven't been caught.
Frankie G Morris		#1822	[-]
Posts: 17882 (10/27/08 10:42 AM) All your ghosts are belong to us More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Number one fan? When did I become that? I have barely posted in the political thread(s) this election because the top two candidates both suck. Now, I did like that someone from a rural area, and not a political insider made it on a ticket. BUT I am less than thrilled with either candidate. I don't want an Obama win, but I am not enthusiastic about a possible, but unlikely McCain victory. I think we are pretty much screwed with whichever fucker ends up winning.
PhoofeGirl		#1823	[-]
Posts: 2242 (10/27/08 11:00 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	2001 Obama and "Redistributing Wealth" - BUSTED!
merkyl		#1824	[-]
Posts: 59026 (10/27/08 11:03 AM) Registered loser More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	But that's impossible, Obama been so well researched and vetted by the press.
Dire Potatoe		#1825	[-]
Posts: 3785 (10/27/08 11:46 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I LOVE that bursty line thingee in the video. It's supah cool. My Windows player doesn't have that.
Gregoire		#1826	[-]
Posts: 29992 (10/27/08 11:48 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't believe Obama said that. He was way too busy planning the World Trade Center attack.
Goosehead		#1827	[-]
Posts: 1252 (10/27/08 11:50 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't get it. He's a social democratic, just like every other president in recent history, except he believes in positive freedoms more than any other in recent history. Every American government spreads the wealth. What's the deal? Why is he busted?
kutabeach		#1828	[-]
Posts: 2008 (10/27/08 11:52 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	He's a socialist. I just hope it's not too late to impact the election. Leonard Lopate: "Hey, Bill Ayers, now that I know you, I guess I can't run for President." Bill Ayers: "No, now you can WIN the Presidency."
Antithesys		#1829	[-]
Posts: 23249 (10/27/08 11:52 AM) Gadabout More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	This is almost certainly just a blip, but the most recent poll has McCain leading by just two points in Arizona.
Miles Edgeworth		#1830	[-]
Posts: 592 (10/27/08 11:54 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	That interview is a farce it was during one of the five times in the day that he was praying to allah. Whoever made that youtube did do a good job of putting racial fear in there though. Good job.
CanIBreathe		#1831	[-]
Posts: 831 (10/27/08 11:54 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	PhoofeGirl wrote: 2001 Obama and "Redistributing Wealth" - BUSTED! In regards to that video; is more like� hes saying The Warren Court didn't get into the redistribution of wealth while deciding all these civil rights cases...and they shouldn't have." But the people who think Obama is a commie�marxist socialist�and is fin to claim world dominance if he becomes POTUS�is going to allow residents of Pluto to take over the IT industry of the United States are reading it as, "The Warren Court didn't get into the redistribution of wealth...and they SHOULD have."� Our favorits psychic�Sylvia Brown has released her political prediction for the 2008 Presidential�election: �� Sylvia Browne Predictions for 2009 -- the political ones I predict the President elected sometime after 2008 will die in office from a heart attack. The Vice President who will finish their term will have an unpopular and mistaken intention to declare war on North Korea. By that time, North Korea will have weapons of mass destruction. In the middle of efforts to declare war, I predict the Vice President will be assassinated. There will be a worldwide investigation into the Vice President's death with both pleasant and unpleasant surprises. A lot of attention will be paid to one of the investigative congressional committees and serious accusations will be made regarding missing funds. Finally, it will be revealed that their accusations are part of a conspiracy to damage the American people's faith in their government, with the media manipulated to "fan the flames," and the committee will be vindicated in the end. woo hoo mccain wins, dies of a heart attack, palin becomes president then is assassinated as well..... mccain for the win
Bonestripper		#1832	[-]
Posts: 895 (10/27/08 11:55 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	How picayune. Word to the Pearl Beer city in Mississippi except he believes in positive freedoms more than any other in recent history Positive freedom is taking money I made and giving it to someone who didn't make it?
Gregoire		#1833	[-]
Posts: 29993 (10/27/08 11:59 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	He's a socialist. I just hope it's not too late to impact the election No, and yes it is.
CBRetriever		#1834	[-]
Posts: 22360 (10/27/08 11:59 AM) MESS member More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I hate to be the one to break it to y'all but the current government is already taking your money and giving it to people who work for the government, people on welfare, people who work for Halliburton, people who do fruit fly research, the soldiers, the sailors, etc. the only way you wouldn't have the government taking some of your money and giving it to someone else is under AMAI's system
kutabeach		#1835	[-]
Posts: 2010 (10/27/08 12:00 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	what's a 'negative freedom'?
Miles Edgeworth		#1836	[-]
Posts: 594 (10/27/08 12:00 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	EEK is dear sweet CBR agreeing with Amai?
CBRetriever		#1837	[-]
Posts: 22361 (10/27/08 12:01 PM) MESS member More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	no, just trying to point out something to some of the "gubmint's gonna take my hard earned money" types
blockhose		#1838	[-]
Posts: 2672 (10/27/08 12:08 PM) Treadmill martyr More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	It's getting where I don't know who's being serious and who's riffing off of whom. Oy. Sorry for the misunderstanding, TRho.
Mister Slippery		#1839	[-]
Posts: 16209 (10/27/08 12:10 PM) Registered Abuser Administrator More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	PhoofeGirl wrote: 2001 Obama and "Redistributing Wealth" - BUSTED! Not Quite. Here's what it's�based on: the "tragedy," in Obama's telling, is that the civil rights movement was too court-focused. He was making a case against using courts to implement broad social goals - which is, last time I checked, the�conservative�position. The actual quote in full: "If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement, and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to vest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples, so that I would now have the right to vote, I would now be able to sit at a lunch counter and order and as long as I could pay for it I'd be okay." "But," Obama said, "The Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society. And to that extent as radical as I think people tried to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn't that radical. It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, as least as it's been interpreted, and Warren Court interpreted in the same way that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties, says what the states can't do to you, says what the federal government can't do to you, but it doesn't say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf. And that hasn't shifted." Obama said "one of the, I think, the tragedies of the civil rights movement, was because the civil rights movement became so court focused, I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways we still stuffer from that." So Obama was arguing that the Constitution protects negative liberties and that the civil rights movement was too court-focused to make any difference in addressing income inequality, as opposed to formal constitutional rights. So it seems to me that this statement is actually a conservative one about the limits of judicial activism. Is this really all McCain has left? http://andrewsullivan.the.../drudges-latest.html#more
Bonestripper		#1840	[-]
Posts: 896 (10/27/08 12:10 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	no, just trying to point out something to some of the "gubmint's gonna take my hard earned money" types We are the type who don't want people elected who want to take more of our money and give it away/waste it.

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