MAD Men: Just When You Get Your Foot in the Door

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factoryhurl		#961	[-]
Posts: 3858 (10/06/08 10:06 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	hard to say which was creepier, glen, betty's brother or betty's daddy?
Angelica2003		#962	[-]
Posts: 1577 (10/06/08 10:17 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	hard to say which was creepier, glen, betty's brother or betty's daddy? X Cool that the most normal guy in Betty's life is Don, the one she's kicked out of her house.
maxxfisher		#963	[-]
Posts: 2702 (10/06/08 10:19 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I would have to cross Betty's dad off the creepy list. Even though it was very creepy, he never meant to actually do that. I found it more sad than anything else
tarzan groupie		#964	[-]
Posts: 8440 (10/06/08 10:22 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	beefjerkyboy wrote: tarzan groupie wrote: I actually don't find Joan's obsession with Kinsey fun. I think it's all very mean, and a huge character flaw on her part. It's been hinted they previously had a relationship of some sort, right? I can't help but wonder just happened between those two. Maybe the next episode will shed some light on that? I think Kinsey crossed the line by bringing a personal dispute with Joan into the office. Whatever she said to him at his party is different ... that's personal. He should have kept his issues out of the workplace. Ken continues to be the coolest guy in the office without really trying. Ok, I think I missed something, then. Did the personal dispute happen this episode? If so, I missed that. If not, I did miss a few epis due to the Hurricane.
factoryhurl		#965	[-]
Posts: 3859 (10/06/08 10:34 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	maxxfisher wrote: I would have to cross Betty's dad off the creepy list. Even though it was very creepy, he never meant to actually do that. I found it more sad than anything else i got that maxx, he did not mean to do it and mistook betty for her mother, but i got an inference that he was a grab asser and perhaps a sexual bully.
beefjerkyboy		#966	[-]
Posts: 2563 (10/06/08 11:01 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	tarzan groupie wrote: Ok, I think I missed something, then. Did the personal dispute happen this episode? If so, I missed that. If not, I did miss a few epis due to the Hurricane. I don't have a photographic memory for the show, but earlier this season, it was revealed that Kinsey and Joan were in a relationship previously. Paul held a party where we were introduced to his pseudo-Bohemian lifestyle and new African-American girlfriend. Joan basically called him out as a poser and mocked him. In retaliation, Paul posted a copy of Joan's driver's license, showing she's 30, in the break room to try and humiliate her at the office. Joan remarks to Peggy that she just wants to do her job or something that shows she really thought what Paul did was too far. Someone can correct me, but that's why I thought Joan handled the situation the way she did.
swennader	the brothers	#967	[-]
Posts: 127 (10/06/08 11:21 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Had some choice lines. Betty's with "you're drunk, Bets" coming in from the tree house was great. And Pete's brother on abortion was passive aggresive WASP disapproval at its finest: "well, people do that."
tarzan groupie		#968	[-]
Posts: 8442 (10/06/08 11:28 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	beefjerkyboy wrote: tarzan groupie wrote: Ok, I think I missed something, then. Did the personal dispute happen this episode? If so, I missed that. If not, I did miss a few epis due to the Hurricane. I don't have a photographic memory for the show, but earlier this season, it was revealed that Kinsey and Joan were in a relationship previously. Paul held a party where we were introduced to his pseudo-Bohemian lifestyle and new African-American girlfriend. Joan basically called him out as a poser and mocked him. In retaliation, Paul posted a copy of Joan's driver's license, showing she's 30, in the break room to try and humiliate her at the office. Joan remarks to Peggy that she just wants to do her job or something that shows she really thought what Paul did was too far. Someone can correct me, but that's why I thought Joan handled the situation the way she did. Ah, thank you! I did miss that part. Funny, because I remember the scene, with Peggy sitting at her desk, but knew I had missed something significant while I stepped into the kitchen briefly.
HardEdge1980		#969	[-]
Posts: 106 (10/06/08 11:30 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The actor playing Betty's father was a dead ringer for John McCain. I felt for Betty when he kept mistaking her for his deceased wife, especially with the groping. ogmious wrote: this show is excellent, and i really enjoy the attention to detail. jon hamm owns the don draper role. just watched the first season and i have one question: how does harrys wife find out about his affair at the office? in the season final, don finds harry sleeping in his office, i assume its because his wife has found out about his adultry. are we just to assume that an inexperienced philanderer like harry would eventually get caught? My memory is fuzzy on this, but I believe that Harry felt so guilty that he told her himself. Speaking of which, I was kind of worried that Hildy was going to make another move on him at the baby shower. Oh, and I loved Cooper coming in and wishing him a Happy Birthday. I normally can't stand Pete, but this episode made me have a little sympathy towards him. His mother is a cold piece of work, with her complete and utter disdain towards adoption. His brother isn't much better. Considering the way his father treated him before his death, it's no wonder he acts the way he does.
Halo8		#970	[-]
Posts: 338 (10/06/08 12:19 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	HardEdge1980 wrote: The actor playing Betty's father was a dead ringer for John McCain. I felt for Betty when he kept mistaking her for his deceased wife, especially with the groping. Oh gosh, I felt the same way when I saw Betty's father. I kept thinking of McCain over and over again. The grope scene was just so uncomfortable, but I felt more bad for her when her brother was getting all snarky at her claiming all the possessions that she was supposed to have, putting the guilt tirp on her for moving, and then saying she's drunk.
Merrilin		#971	[-]
Posts: 1082 (10/06/08 2:36 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think it was all to hint that her dad never really got over Betty's mom. The resentment from "the new family" was palpable.
SuitSnob		#972	[-]
Posts: 8579 (10/06/08 3:33 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Otch wrote: maxxfisher wrote: Angelica2003 wrote: Just when I start to think Bobby and Sally are creepy, that creepy little fuck Glenn comes back. Are all the kids on Valium on this show? I loved how Don had Joan inform Kinsey in front of everyone at the party about the trip change--why isn't she just Don's secretary all the time? I am starting to hate Betty. Who the hell does she think she is? I guess getting felt up by your dad has gotta mess with your head--he's a creepy asshole too, and I have a feeling that the stroke didn't cause all that mess. I don't think Don needed her to do it to Paul in front of everyone, I think that part was ALL Joan. And Joan has a lot of duties in the office. She seems to be the office manager and is just being Joan's secretary until a suitable replacement can be found. I think Joan see's the last 3 girls as failures on her part, not matching the right girl to Don and she's making her mission to get him the right secretary. Yeah Don says something to the effect: I need you to send a memo to Kinsey. I think memo was the key word. She took it upon herself to walk into the party and burst his bubble in front of everyone. I love Joan and Kinsey. When the girlfriend was in the office and Joan walked by in the background and shot that look, pefect. It was so subtle...just perfect.
trinity17888		#973	[-]
Posts: 525 (10/06/08 9:35 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Angelica2003 wrote: I am starting to hate Betty. Who the hell does she think she is? I guess getting felt up by your dad has gotta mess with your head--he's a creepy asshole too, and I have a feeling that the stroke didn't cause all that mess. I can't decide what I think about Betty either... but I do think that Betty resembles her mother and the dad is confused. Whether from Alzheimers or some kind of dementia caused by his stroke.
maddogziggy		#974	[-]
Posts: 94 (10/06/08 10:05 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I kinda got a creepy.....she was molested by her dad as a child vibe, or maybe shortly after her mom died ....when she was around Glenn's age ..but I hope im wrong Last Edited By: maddogziggy 10/06/08 10:10 PM. Edited 2 times.
OG sofa		#975	[-]
Posts: 872 (10/06/08 10:46 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	trinity17888 wrote: Angelica2003 wrote: I am starting to hate Betty. Who the hell does she think she is? I guess getting felt up by your dad has gotta mess with your head--he's a creepy asshole too, and I have a feeling that the stroke didn't cause all that mess. I can't decide what I think about Betty either... but I do think that Betty resembles her mother and the dad is confused. Whether from Alzheimers or some kind of dementia caused by his stroke. betty is damaged, but its not because of any abuse issue. betty's daddy's mind is just fried from several strokes (one we saw and others just talked about.) that is sad. but that happens. (and i don't mean that to sound like "people do that", if you get my drift.) i'm getting all confused about the time line here. but don seems to have been living in that hotel forever (and it really helps too when you show re-runs during the season, mad men! thanks, you morons.) i totally get throw-his-ass-out betty, batshit-crazy betty, even drunk-pajama betty. (i think those are official kübler-ross stages of grief.) what i don't get is the set-your-friend-up-for-infidelity betty or the drag-don-along-for-show-when-your-dad-has-a-stroke-and-then-boink-him-on-his-pathetic-off-to-the-side-little-bundle-of-bed betty or especially the don't-even-allow-don-to-shower-your-betty-stank-off-him-and-throw-don's-ass-out-your-house betty. sofa shakes his head and then! and then! betty gets all weird with glen on the couch? usually i can see where a show is going with a character. i don't fully understand don, roger, pete, peggy or joan. but i have a general direction. betty? no fucking clue. i'm sure that's weiner's intention. betty gives me the heebie jeebies...
trinity17888		#976	[-]
Posts: 526 (10/07/08 12:18 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	But she's fascinating, isn't she, OG sofa? About the "drag-don-along-for-show-when-your-dad-has-a-stroke" -- well, we know Betty does not like to be embarrassed and much of what she does is to keep up appearances, so I think that's why she brought him along. In regards to "boink-him-on-his-pathetic-off-to-the-side-little-bundle-of-bed betty or especially the don't-even-allow-don-to-shower-your-betty-stank-off-him-and-throw-don's-ass-out-your-house betty" -- It made her feel as if she had control of the relationship, for a change. What she really wants (I think) is for Don to beg forgiveness and swear undying love and he certainly isn't going to do that. In fact, he wants her to go along with his lies. As far as the "set-your-friend-up-for-infidelity Betty "I think she was just washing her hands of the two of them.
OG sofa		#977	[-]
Posts: 877 (10/07/08 1:52 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	trinity17888 wrote: But she's fascinating, isn't she, OG sofa? About the "drag-don-along-for-show-when-your-dad-has-a-stroke" -- well, we know Betty does not like to be embarrassed and much of what she does is to keep up appearances, so I think that's why she brought him along. In regards to "boink-him-on-his-pathetic-off-to-the-side-little-bundle-of-bed betty or especially the don't-even-allow-don-to-shower-your-betty-stank-off-him-and-throw-don's-ass-out-your-house betty" -- It made her feel as if she had control of the relationship, for a change. What she really wants (I think) is for Don to beg forgiveness and swear undying love and he certainly isn't going to do that. In fact, he wants her to go along with his lies. As far as the "set-your-friend-up-for-infidelity Betty "I think she was just washing her hands of the two of them. betty is the reason i watch this show. they could end this show now. all of the characters could just live out their lives and i would be happy in my simplicity knowing they probably did ok in their lives. except for betty. i am curious about betty... and maybe glen...
salome2000		#978	[-]
Posts: 7 (10/07/08 7:17 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	What she really wants (I think) is for Don to beg forgiveness and swear undying love and he certainly isn't going to do that. In fact, he wants her to go along with his lies. Frankly, I'm tiring of those scenes between them. They are bordering on redundant at this point. The story needs to move on one way or another. My preference would be he quits being so damned stoic about it, but whatever.
factoryhurl		#979	[-]
Posts: 3866 (10/07/08 7:37 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	betty wants don to pitch her. she verbalized how persuasive he is and she cannot understand why he won't bullshit her into submission. she is insulted that he spends more time thinking about wooing a client than her.
StarrEise		#980	[-]
Posts: 6863 (10/07/08 7:43 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I wouldn't be surprised if Don doesn't come back from California. This is the guy who was ready to ditch his wife and kids and run off to Mexico with Rachel Menkin, remember? He ain't coming home...but then again, if he didn't, the show wouldn't be about Mad Men anymore. Oh, poo.

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