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sucksalicious		#501	[-]
Posts: 100 (09/18/08 6:46 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	GrenadeJumper85 wrote: Bunky really said "Go pick cotton n*****"!??!?!?!?! If I were Ollie I would have told him how about I shove my foot up your gay ass you fucking hairy bastard. I would kick the fucking living shit out of him. Ok, I'm sorry but I don't get the outrage over bunky's comment. What Ollie said was just as crude and obnoxious to Gays and HE MEANT IT. Ollie chose to say "Come suck my dick you fucking faggot" because, in Ollie's mind, that was the worst epithet he could think of to cut a man down (because on some level, he thinks homosexuality is bad or disgusting or he wouldn't have chosen those words). The structure of Bunky's example was exactly the same (invitation to perform a stereotyped action) you fucking (racial epithet). To illustrate to Ollie how it offended gays, he HAD to structure it so that it made sense to Ollie. Bunky obviously didn't MEAN what he said though so those of you getting all bent out of shape about it need to fucking relax.
Miles Edgeworth		#502	[-]
Posts: 11 (09/18/08 6:48 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Katy Carney wrote: BtMNA wrote: To be fair, April made it damn easy for the producers to make her look like a cunt. You would think someone with a crazy Klingon forehead like hers would develop a better personality. I guess. I don't even really think it was the editors though because the stuff they showed wasn't all that brutal to me. Dick was shown doing far, far worse to pretty much everyone in his cast and he was beloved o' the people. It seems like a lot of people have an extra intense hate for April because she had sex. That's all I can figure out because her catty behavior does not compare unfavorably to that of Keesha, Libra and Michelle, but April seems to get the most shit. April was a bitch a lot of the time, definitely, and I'm not saying she wasn't but it just seems so incredibly blown out of proportion. I wouldn't be surprised if she genuinely doesn't understand why people hate her so much because, other than the Keesha fans, I don't understand it either and I post here AND watched the feeds. Problem is that April was in the wrong alliance. If april was in the Dan memphis alliance she would be embraced around here.
BtMNA		#503	[-]
Posts: 224 (09/18/08 6:52 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I really think that April's problem is that she just isn't a likable person. There is something about her that just rubs people the wrong way. To me at least it wasn't about what she did or didn't do in the house and definately had nothing to do with Keesha. I just look at her and think "This girl is simply devoid of personality, she's just this empty shell and a pair of purchased tits." She just didn't seem terribly bright or interesting. I actually don't hate her. She didn't really have enough of an impact for me to hate, which is part of the problem. I mean, Pepaw had all the charm of a cancerous growth but at least he had some kind of personality, twisted and horrible as it was. April was just this vapid girl that was in the house doing the nasty with a dumb guy for a while.
Oowatanite		#504	[-]
Posts: 5810 (09/18/08 6:54 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Katy Carney wrote: BtMNA wrote: To be fair, April made it damn easy for the producers to make her look like a cunt. You would think someone with a crazy Klingon forehead like hers would develop a better personality. I guess. I don't even really think it was the editors though because the stuff they showed wasn't all that brutal to me. Dick was shown doing far, far worse to pretty much everyone in his cast and he was beloved o' the people. It seems like a lot of people have an extra intense hate for April because she had sex. That's all I can figure out because her catty behavior does not compare unfavorably to that of Keesha, Libra and Michelle, but April seems to get the most shit. April was a bitch a lot of the time, definitely, and I'm not saying she wasn't but it just seems so incredibly blown out of proportion. I wouldn't be surprised if she genuinely doesn't understand why people hate her so much because, other than the Keesha fans, I don't understand it either and I post here AND watched the feeds. Thank God I'm not the only one who feels this way ! All three coven members freely were catty about other players and they also trashed each other. Yet April got the worst brunt of the hate on the internet, maybe just because she had sex with Ollie under the covers. Big deal ! April was portrayed as the "bitch" in the jury scenes, so she is right about that.
chilibmom		#505	[-]
Posts: 550 (09/18/08 6:57 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Dick's interview of Ollie and April is so telling. I wonder if Ollie had his Dick interview after or before the interview with Bunky. After Dick brings up the montage of Ollie afraid of the birds, Ollie says something to the effect of: "Did they really make me look like a pansy motherfuckers?" He promised Bunky he would not say things like faggot again. I had to laugh when Ollie says he wants to know how they could show April as bitchy. Dick had to remind them they don't show anything they did not do several times. April defending herself by pointing out others did it too is so silly, OBVIOUSLY her daddy never taught her that 2 wrongs don't make a right. How the clip was edited makes me wonder what was cut. I also would have loved to see what Ollie and April did after the interview with Dick was over. Was this interview the one that made her comment to Bunky that she wanted to see how she was portrayed. She still does not get a clue that feed coverage is 24/7 AND as Dick repeatedly pointed out nothing is on the feeds that she did not actually do or say. Part of me hopes she goes home and cries for 6 months. Last Edited By: chilibmom 09/18/08 6:59 PM. Edited 1 times.
chilibmom		#506	[-]
Posts: 551 (09/18/08 7:07 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	sucksalicious wrote: GrenadeJumper85 wrote: Bunky really said "Go pick cotton n*****"!??!?!?!?! If I were Ollie I would have told him how about I shove my foot up your gay ass you fucking hairy bastard. I would kick the fucking living shit out of him. Ok, I'm sorry but I don't get the outrage over bunky's comment. What Ollie said was just as crude and obnoxious to Gays and HE MEANT IT. Ollie chose to say "Come suck my dick you fucking faggot" because, in Ollie's mind, that was the worst epithet he could think of to cut a man down (because on some level, he thinks homosexuality is bad or disgusting or he wouldn't have chosen those words). The structure of Bunky's example was exactly the same (invitation to perform a stereotyped action) you fucking (racial epithet). To illustrate to Ollie how it offended gays, he HAD to structure it so that it made sense to Ollie. Bunky obviously didn't MEAN what he said though so those of you getting all bent out of shape about it need to fucking relax. I so agree. Bunky was trying to make a point to Ollie about terms, he was not saying that in anger as did Ollie. What I find telling is that Ollie uses the term pansy in his interview with Dick. He definitely equates homosexuals as lesser beings by the pejoratives he uses and the situations he uses them in.
Miles Edgeworth		#507	[-]
Posts: 12 (09/18/08 7:09 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	What I find telling is that Ollie uses the term pansy in his interview with Dick. He definitely equates homosexuals as lesser beings by the pejoratives he uses and the situations he uses them in. Yall act as if that is rare nowadays.
James Barber		#508	[-]
Posts: 14069 (09/18/08 7:09 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Katy Carney wrote: I really didn't think April was that big of a bitch. Fake and mean in a high school way, I guess, but she wasn't any more hateful than Keesha, Michelle or Libra. In fact I'd say she was far less offensive than Michelle and far less hostile than Keesha and Libra. I hated April because I thought she was smug, self-righteous, and had a huge sense of entitlement. There was some criticism this season over who thought America loved them, but I think April was the one who kept saying America loved her and she was America's favorite. April's comment about how she treats her nephew who suffers from Down's Syndrome also put me off. Then there was her deriding Dan as a "cafeteria Catholic" and saying he was a bad Catholic because he once put on Renny's clothes as a joke. Or the time in the house that Michelle was throwing away her game to try to keep April around, and behind her back, April was talking about what a whore (among other words) Michelle was. If someone is going to present themselves as a nice person, they could try to live up to it every once in a while.
Miles Edgeworth		#509	[-]
Posts: 13 (09/18/08 7:12 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If someone is going to present themselves as a nice person, they could try to live up to it every once in a while. You mean like your favo keesha or are you gonna be a hypocrite and say that is different.
James Barber		#510	[-]
Posts: 14070 (09/18/08 7:14 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Miles Edgeworth wrote: If someone is going to present themselves as a nice person, they could try to live up to it every once in a while. You mean like your favo keesha or are you gonna be a hypocrite and say that is different. I didn't like the cattiness about Angie, but otherwise I didn't think Keesha was that bad.
Miles Edgeworth		#511	[-]
Posts: 14 (09/18/08 7:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I didn't like the cattiness about Angie, but otherwise I didn't think Keesha was that bad. So we are ignoring the fact that she made Libras last few days there a living hell and deadzoned her despite the fact that Libra never once turned on her. We can always go with her talking big time shit about bff renny behind her back after renny dared to not put up ollie. Hell maybe we can go with the temper tantrum she threw the night of the party. Hell Keesha repeatedly whined that she wasnt a fake person, and would immediately be fake to various people the next minute. They have all been catty the only reason why keesha is liked more is because she was in Dan and memphis's alliance.
Textell		#512	[-]
Posts: 366 (09/18/08 7:26 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I loved the April/Ollie interview with ED. I hated Dick on his season, but I'm happy that he's actually calling the HG's out for their shit. I can't wait for Jerry's interview. I didn't totally hate April, but after almost 3 months of her thinking she was America's favorite, I was very happy that she was bluntly told by ED that she was the bitch of the season.
elliorose		#513	[-]
Posts: 393 (09/18/08 7:27 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Keesha wasn't that bad. Was she catty at times? Yes. But from watching the feeds, I NEVER heard the truly nasty things things that April, Michelle, Ollie, jerry said about the others. Maybe I missed Keesha and Renny saying April was sucking Ollie's junk but I know I heard Michelle and Ollie say that about Dan/Keesha. I don't remember Keesha repeatedly saying she was the prettiest, had the biggest heart and April was jealous of her. April on the other hand did. Practically the only thing she did besides Ollie. What made April so distasteful to me was the venomous hate she felt towards all the women in the house. She spent most of her time talking about how this one's a whore, that one's jealous because I'm prettiest, etc. Keesha had a jealousy of Angie but even then she didn't resort to calling her a whore or claiming that Angie was jealous of her. She couched it in fearing her game play. Which wasn't really far off. Keesha was jealous of how the guys liked Angie and that would have helped Angie in the long run.
chad6		#514	[-]
Posts: 1771 (09/18/08 7:30 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Keesha and April were completely different! Yes, they both were catty at times and loved to talk shit about one another, but other then that they were really different. People liked Keesha's personality and they didn't like April's, simple as that. April was the bitch of the season, and it is obvious becuase no one likes her.
James Barber		#515	[-]
Posts: 14071 (09/18/08 7:32 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So we are ignoring the fact that she made Libras last few days there a living hell and deadzoned her despite the fact that Libra never once turned on her. Libra went through exactly what Libra herself had done to other people. It may not have been fair, but that was the atmosphere which had been created in the house. Keesha never said she looked like an orangtaun, or called her a ho, or other comments that Ollie and Jerry made. As for anything she said about Renny, I don't remember any overly negative comments. She usually trusted Renny (whereas Renny believed Jerry over Keesha) and she tried to help her (whereas Renny told Keesha she wasn't sure if she'd save her if she won POV). The point wasn't whether or not Keeha was immune from catty, childish moments, but whether Keesha was as bad as April. I don't think she was. If you feel otherwise, we'll agree to disagree. As for April, I don't care that she had sex with Ollie. People can do what they want in the house. But if she's going to use the house to have sexcapades, I don't know why she needed to spend so much time judging other people. Last Edited By: James Barber 09/18/08 7:34 PM. Edited 1 times.
Miles Edgeworth		#516	[-]
Posts: 15 (09/18/08 7:38 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	What made April so distasteful to me was the venomous hate she felt towards all the women in the house. She spent most of her time talking about how this one's a whore, that one's jealous because I'm prettiest, etc. Keesha had a jealousy of Angie but even then she didn't resort to calling her a whore or claiming that Angie was jealous of her. She couched it in fearing her game play. Which wasn't really far off. Keesha was jealous of how the guys liked Angie and that would have helped Angie in the long run. We'll ignore such awesome keesha moments, like calling Angie a bitch for loaning her a dress. Justify it however you want, however if april and keesha were to switch alliances shit would be getting talked about the other one. Keesha never said she looked like an orangtaun, or called her a ho, or other comments that Ollie and Jerry made. I thought this convo was about keesha and libra not Libra and Ollie (which was a totally different dynamic) Or Jerry ( who was a deviant asshole.) However you are right we are just running in circles so I shall agree to disagree.
iluvbbsofun		#517	[-]
Posts: 490 (09/18/08 8:07 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Are there any live feeds from the wrap party tonight? Will they have a veto competition?
Battlekid		#518	[-]
Posts: 463 (09/18/08 8:08 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	As much as people seem to like Libra now , simply because she was with the likable side, (KDMR) don't forget that she singlehandidly created a hateful atmosphere , where the outsiders , or who ever wasn't a part of her alliance was isolated and treated like a disease. She deserved everything that she received.
paris		#519	[-]
Posts: 1001 (09/18/08 8:09 PM) Local user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I wasn't offended by what Bunky said to Ollie. Maybe I missed anyone saying it here, but I was sure Bunky said "So if Memphis had said back to you... pick my cotton etc... would that have been OK?" Ollie said that wouldn't be OK, that it would have been pretty harsh... or something along those lines. Bunky made his point.
James Barber		#520	[-]
Posts: 14073 (09/18/08 8:13 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Battlekid wrote: As much as people seem to like Libra now , simply because she was with the likable side, (KDMR) don't forget that she singlehandidly created a hateful atmosphere , where the outsiders , or who ever wasn't a part of her alliance was isolated and treated like a disease. She deserved everything that she received. I think people like Libra more now than they did earlier because she behaved rationally while on the jury and when leaving the house. I didn't care for the atmosphere she helped set up in the house, and I also thought she was very petty at times. I think where my opinion started to change about her was the comments Ollie and Jerry made, I didn't think she deserved those.

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