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ShanSlam		#541	[-]
Posts: 96 (07/30/08 4:01 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Latuki Joe wrote: Wow. Overthink it a little more. :D Yeah, it's easy to get carried away with this stuff. Thanks for bringing me back to reality...
Screerider		#542	[-]
Posts: 22315 (07/30/08 4:23 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Too bad they don't speak Latin or Esparanto (past tense of "to be") there. :p Your translate page does translate "estis" from Spanish as "low water" and from Brazilian Portuguese as "drought, dry season, dryness". Interesting coincidence, coming from a water tower.
Goosehead		#543	[-]
Posts: 1002 (07/30/08 5:56 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Quick observation: The only way to keep the money out of the pot on the last challenge would be to shoot the player with the exemption, or be the player with the exemption and let yourself get shot. This is correct, right? So the Mole's strategy would be either to get in that particular room that s/he knows is associated with the exemption, or finish the puzzle really quickly (with producer assistance) so as to ensure s/he's the sniper. This means that either Mark knew how to solve the puzzle beforehand and finished it first so that he could get into the sniper position, or Craig was lucky enough to get into room #3, even though other contestants chose rooms before he could. Therefore, if the Mole was at play in that challenge, it would seem that Nicole did nothing that we can suggest points to producer assistance. * What would have happened if the person who finished first was in Room #3?
Cuntella		#544	[-]
Posts: 29 (07/30/08 6:05 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Goosehead wrote: * What would have happened if the person who finished first was in Room #3? Nobody would have gotten it, IIRC,
cyclehausen		#545	[-]
Posts: 4391 (07/30/08 6:14 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If the Mole were a runner, why would they care about being in the exemption room? Getting shot costs the team the same amount of money either way.
Goosehead		#546	[-]
Posts: 1003 (07/30/08 7:14 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	oh right, I forgot that it didn't just apply to the player with the veto getting shot. so this would point to mole-activity on the part of Mark, if anyone, for this challenge.
colleenlover		#547	[-]
Posts: 8341 (07/30/08 9:44 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	but the shooter most likely gets to take out all three players and keeps exemption from them. I don't think the Mole was designated a numbered cell since anyone could pipe in before him. *now what would have happened if shooter's room had the exemption? I suppose he would have won it regardless if he didn't hit any of the players in theory. I still think it's fishy that Craig is the Mole based on editing. But based on reality with Paul and Nicole openly freaking out that one of them was certain to go home indicates it was something editing couldn't get around -and it was a race to see who could answer more correctly and quickly -both seem to be asute players. I suppose the editing 101 version of this show is Mark is the winner -that he is doing it for his family, and Nicole did beat Paul at the game. And oh yeah, Craig was the stupid Mole. But I still think (and hoping it's so) -Nicole pegged Mark in the first episode ("hmmmm, maybe he's the Mole.") The Mole is a "compassionate" one, and Nicole's "it's only a game" comment to Mark indicates a talk between winner and mole.
Kirblar		#548	[-]
Posts: 6387 (07/30/08 9:45 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm pretty sure Craig was always going to be carrying the exemption. The "random" explanation doesn't make any sense since the sniper could end up carrying their own exemption.
Cassidy666		#549	[-]
Posts: 7990 (07/30/08 9:58 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't think the production would explicitly lie to the players about a rule regarding any aspect of the game, especially exemption. My thought was that the mole would know which room held exemption and could do one of two things depending on whether he ends up in that room or not. His objective is not to deny anyone in particular exemption but to lose money for the pot. If he ends up in the exemption room, he'll wait to solve the puzzle and try to get shot later. If he doesn't and if he's a good shot, he can try to solve the puzzle first and shoot the other three contestants.
cyclehausen		#550	[-]
Posts: 4392 (07/31/08 4:43 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Most likely, they selected a cell for the exemption, and then a back-up cell, in case the person in the original cell became the shooter. It was clear from the rules explanation that one of the runers would be carrying the exemption. I don't see how anyone could miss the clear way that Paul, Nicole, and Mark talked throughout the last episode about the game, with the host and Craig present, as if they all knew that everyone knew that Craig was the mole. And the editing has been SO clear. Mark has talked and talked about winning. Nicole has NEVER mentioned winning. She has mentioned "staying" and "lasting." Craig = mole, Nicole = runner-up, Mark=wins. RIP the "smartest show" on TV.
Will		#551	[-]
Posts: 29776 (07/31/08 10:42 AM) Not a Registered User anymore Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Didn't Jon hand them the clue after they submitted the paper correctly?
tweek46		#552	[-]
Posts: 4663 (07/31/08 10:14 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ShanSlam wrote: tweek46 wrote: Screerider wrote: ESTIS: (Spanish) Past tense of "to be"? It's definitely Esperanto past tense of "to be" ... Could this mean 2 B? Let's look at the quiz question # 2 - During the intro of "How's the View" mission, where was the Mole standing from Jon's perspective (l to r)? Answer B is also #2 (which happens to be where Mark is standing.) Dunno ... I'm still working on the Fibonacci numbers from the previous episode!
d70005		#553	[-]
Posts: 10 (07/31/08 10:15 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think the reflect clue resembles what the Mole saw in the camera plank mission. He was wearing the glasses.
Kitty Pryde1		#554	[-]
Posts: 5143 (08/01/08 1:55 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Did anyone else notice the fact that one quiz question was "Where was the mole standing, from left to right?" while shortly after, there was another question about the second task asking "Where was the mole standing from right to left?"
Screerider		#555	[-]
Posts: 22330 (08/01/08 12:10 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Maybe The Mole is the only one with the same answer for both? Question 2: During the intro of the "How's the View" mission, where was the Mole standing from Jon's perspective (l to r)? First Second Third Fourth Question 6: In the intro of the "Cell Out" mission, where was the Mole standing from Jon's perpsective (r to l)? First Second Third Fourth I'm afraid I don't remember the order's of either.
they say		#556	[-]
Posts: 574 (08/01/08 12:20 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Question 2: During the intro of the "How's the View" mission, where was the Mole standing from Jon's perspective (l to r)? First - Paul Second - Mark Third - Nicole Fourth - Craig Question 6: In the intro of the "Cell Out" mission, where was the Mole standing from Jon's perpsective (r to l)? First - Paul Second - Craig Third - Mark Fourth - Nicole Could be another "who gets executed" clue I suppose.
Screerider		#557	[-]
Posts: 22331 (08/01/08 12:47 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Or Mark standing in the same position in both cases...
ShanSlam		#558	[-]
Posts: 98 (08/01/08 1:45 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I just discovered this "deleted" scene...apparently Mark "snaps" and takes matters into his own hands... and leaves a lot of forensic evidence! Good thing Nicole had a twin!
Kenneth		#559	[-]
Posts: 1426 (08/01/08 7:05 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Screerider wrote: Or Mark standing in the same position in both cases... I checked and Mark was standing second from left both times, and was the only person standing in the same place both times. So, if Mark is the Mole that means the answer to question 2 is B and the answer to 6 is C.
knuckles487		#560	[-]
Posts: 61 (08/04/08 6:01 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Lets play GUESS THE OUTCOME There was a preview video on tv.com that showed the bomb mission for this week. Unfortunately, in trying to access it again the link is not working so I can't post it. In that video it showed the players solving the puzzle and heading over to cut what they hope is the correct wire with less than one minute remaining. They start to cut it, stop to discuss it a while, and then the shot cuts away. One of the pictures from medianet this week shows them in what could be interpreted as a victory shot. I believe it was posted somewhere in one of these threads. So it appears they are successful in the mission. The new sneek peek video on ABC today shows the same mission, but I am wondering about the actual outcome. We hear the bomb ticking, then it ticks even faster, just like the movies when the hero finally stops the bomb with 1 or 2 seconds left and saves dozens of schoolchildren or a busload of cheerleaders. Because of the medianet picture, it appears they did defuse the bomb in time, but I am going to make my own ending because that would just be too boring. The bomb is stopped, the players celebrate, and Jon walks in. Jon: Congratulations players, you stopped the bomb and kept the money from being blown to smithereens. Players: Yeaaaaaa Jon: But there is a problem. It seems there was some interference with the timekeeping device. It was prevented from moving for 6 seconds, and since you stopped the timer with only 2 seconds remaining, you were actually 4 seconds late. The bomb should have detonated and destroyed the money. You are hereby penalized 6 seconds and have lost the mission and the money. Players: Kill Craig, get him before he gets away. In the ABC video you can see Nicole by the board working on the solution, Mark is back by the blue wall, and Craig walks over to the clock apparently to see how much time is left. He grabs the second hand keeping it from moving, but we can't see how long he holds it because the scene changes. This ending would be more fun to watch but will probably never happen. Anyone else want to play Guess the Outcome? Last Edited By: knuckles487 08/04/08 6:05 AM. Edited 1 times.

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