vivalasux wrote:
Seahawketti wrote:
Peyton Manning is out 6 weeks.Good. Now I don't have to watch him make fools out of the Skins D in the Hall of Fame game.
That's just a preseason game anyway.
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vivalasux wrote: That's just a preseason game anyway.
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dennydoylelives wrote: Totally agree. |
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After all the pain and anguish Brett Favre has inflicted on me as a Bears fan over the years with the sports media sucking him off constantly, it's so
heartwarming seeing the NFL's career interception leader beginning to be raked through the coals as his primadonna behavior is exposed with his whole tiff
with Ted Thompson basically amounting to him not being a puppet GM for Brett.
This article was great: He thinks the rules don't apply to him http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=434609 |
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Man, I can't believe that I actually thought that Farve really would gracefully retire. :lbf
Favre tempted to show up for Packers campMILWAUKEE (AP)-Brett Favre says he's tempted to show up at the Green Bay Packers' training camp just to call the team's "bluff." In the second part of an interview with Fox News, the 38-year-old quarterback said he knows his arrival in camp would cause a media circus. Packers players are scheduled to report July 27. "It's tempting just to, as everyone said, you know, call their bluff or whatever," Favre said. "I think it's going to be a circus in itself already, whether I go there, whatever." But, Favre added: "I don't want to go back there just to stick it to them." The interview on the show "On the Record with Greta Van Susteren" was broadcast Tuesday night. Favre, a three-time MVP, said he feels "a little bit" bad for would-be successor Aaron Rodgers and insists he doesn't want to be a distraction to his teammates. Or are they his former teammates? "I like my teammates," Favre said. "I had a lot of fun with them. I have talked to numerous guys throughout this whole ordeal. I wish them the best, I really do. I hold nothing against those guys. We had a lot of fun together. We had, it was an amazing year last year. I don't want to make it any worse than it is." And right now, it's pretty bad. Favre and the Packers appear headed toward a messy divorce after Favre demanded his release last week. The decision blindsided the Packers. "This is an ongoing situation," team spokesman Jeff Blumb said Tuesday evening. "We're working through it, and we're going to do the right thing." Team officials have been careful not to criticize Favre, instead laying out a detailed timeline of their offseason dealings with him. The team hopes that fans would understand why the Packers wouldn't be willing to abandon their offseason plans with Rodgers just because Favre changed his mind. After retiring in early March, Favre told the Packers he was having second thoughts and was ready to return a few weeks later. General manager Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy had made plans to take a private plane to Mississippi to seal the deal on Favre's comeback, only to have him change his mind again and stay retired. Favre conceded that the latest in his long line of reversals on his football future has been tough on Rodgers, the Packers' first-round pick in 2005. "The one thing in this, I do feel bad for Aaron a little bit," Favre said. "I think he'll do a fine job, to be totally honest with you, I do. He has been injured. I mean, the two injuries are not his fault. Couldn't control. I know this has been tough on him. I think he'll do a fine job. And this has nothing to do with him, this whole deal." That said, Favre doesn't seem inclined to take a back seat to Rodgers. "We'll pay you $12 million, but you've got to hold the clipboard and ball cap?," Favre said. "That's probably better for them as opposed to letting me go somewhere and me coming back. Then their legacy, the management, would, you know, could be in jeopardy." Would he go into camp to compete for the starting job? "Why?" Favre said. "That's what I would ask them: Why?" Thompson has said the Packers do not plan to grant Favre his release. And while Thompson said Favre could return to the Packers if he applies to the league for reinstatement, it would be in "in a different role than he was" because the team had committed to Rodgers. Thompson and McCarthy also have said they are concerned about Favre's legacy, but Favre said that's his problem, not theirs. "You don't worry about my legacy," Favre said. "And, you know, it's a bunch of bull. It's all it is." Favre conceded a trade might be the only way to get his way. "They're not going to do it with a big rival or competitor or whatever, but that may be our only option," Favre said. "I don't know what else to do." Favre was asked about fan rallies held in Wisconsin this week to support him, but it was not mentioned that rallies held in Green Bay and the Milwaukee suburbs drew sparse attendance despite widespread local media attention. The Green Bay rally on Sunday drew less than 200 people, and Monday's rally in the Milwaukee suburbs drew about 30. "Once again, Green Bay's a special place," Favre said. "Wisconsin's a special place." The interview marked Favre's first significant public comments since informing the Packers he wants to be released. The one thing Favre still hasn't said, however, is that he is completely committed to playing in 2008. In the portion of the interview aired Monday night, Favre conceded that "the bottom line is, I may not play anywhere." He also said, "If I'm going to play, it's going to be 100 percent commitment." Asked if he is 100 percent committed to playing in the upcoming season, Favre gave a qualified yes: "Where is a different story." "I very well may not play," Favre said, depending on "the circumstances." "I've always been a Packer, always will be a Packer," Favre said. "Will I play somewhere else? Remains to be seen."
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It's sad watching Farrrrve act like such a diva bitch.
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"Doesn't want to be a distraction?"
This just in...Matt Hasselbeck doesn't want to be bald. |
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Am I the only person here who respects what Favre is doing? "Honoring" and NFL contract is BS -- the team can cut any player for any reason at any
time, so the contracts are very lopsided in the teams' favor. Favre is one of the few players who is in a position to stick it to a team, and frankly,
he's earned that power over 16 years of being a great player.
A release is one of Favre's three options under the contract, so why shouldn't he ask for it? The Packers are being dicks by saying Favre is welcome to play as a backup (which is a massive insult to a player like Favre) so Favre came back with a demand for the opposite extreme. That's Negotiation 101 -- if one side makes a ridiculous offer, counter with an equally ridiculous offer. Favre will play next year, and it won't be in Green Bay. A franchise QB, even if he's over the hill, is way too valuable. GB can bluff all they want, but Favre holds all the chips in this game. |
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twistedzman wrote: some of Favre's other great moments: Packers win the super bowl.. Brett takes all the credit, ignores the fact that it was Reggie White who won the game with what could be the greatest second half by a defensive player in history Father Dies.. Brett goes (can't mess with my streak!) off to play on Monday night football!!! Claims dad would have wanted it that way.. Maybe but I bet MOM would have liked her son's shoulder to lean on in the hours after her husbands death! Wife gets cancer.. Brett goes off to training camp to let her deal with it alone! NICE! "his" Team cant win in the playoffs, so its the front office fault for not getting him better people to take the credit from. Mom is stuck in the path of hurricane Katrina, Brett lets it hit without even trying to get her out of the path of the worst natural disaster in history... Packers Draft Aaron Rodgers.. Bret's first interview and every other one he does at training camp that year.." I hope they don't think I'm going to help this kid learn the offense.. it's not my job to teach him anything." Favre is a huge a-hole and this latest episode only further strengthens that argument! |
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vivalasux |
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I saw on ESPNews last night that Farve has ruled out Tampa Bay, because he doesn't want to play in warm weather. Stupid cunt.
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Angela in WI |
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memyselfandi wrote: Why don't you go hide under Grossman's armpit....oh thats' right Grossman doesn't have an arm... |
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memyselfandi |
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Beefcake wrote: Yeah you are the only one who "respects" what Favre is doing. You are also a total idiot. Actually the Packers hold almost all the chips in the
game. The only recourse he has is, as he said in that article posted above, is to cry about his situation in the media to try to engender fan and sports pundit
sympathy to pressure the Packers to do what he wants or call the Packers bluff to see if they would really bench him for Aaron Rodgers if he came back to
training camp and tried to play out the rest of his contract with Green Bay. Favre can't make the Packers give him an outright release, nor should they. If
Favre plays somewhere else next year, it will be because GB traded him.
Seriously though, so what if Favre has "16 years of being great"? It's not like he wasn't already paid quite handsomely by the Packers for
being great so what else exactly is he owed by the franchise? Favre has won as many Super Bowl rings as Trent Fucking Dilfer for Pete's sake. He is NOT
bigger than the game and has not "earned" the right to stick it to his team. If that was how professional sports can and should work, then the Bulls
should still be suiting up Michael Jordan's old ass whenever he decides he has the urge to play again.
I have absolutely no sympathy for Favre in this. If Favre didn't want to stay in Green Bay forever and had so many issues with management that led him to want to leave the organization then maybe he should have thought about that before signing a 10-year contract in 2001 that made him the highest-paid player in the NFL for that time. Of course, if Favre wanted to play again for Green Bay next season he also could have reached that conclusion more than a month before training camp. Sorry, but Favre can cry all he wants but the Packers simply demanding to know whether or not he was going to play another year before the NFL draft so they would know whether they should pick a quarterback (oh how mean of them) does not equal them forcing him out. And Angela, for the record Grossman does have an arm so your putdown is a bit lacking. It's hands to keep from fumbling and eyes allowing him to see
defenders that he lacks.
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Brett went out as a hero and by coming back he just made himself a goat. It's as simple as that.
Nobody can debate that he was an incredible athlete. He holds a gazillion records and played in more consecutive games than any player in the history of the game. But he quit. He sat in front of his fans and cried and said he just couldn't do it anymore. He said then that it had nothing to do with Ted Thompson or Mike McCarthy. He said he wasn't forced and the decision he made he made because he felt it was right. Well, he was either lying then or he's lying now. Either way, he looks like an asshole. I respect him greatly as a football player. I don't know that any quarterback will ever give me the same pleasure and the same frustration all at the same time as Brett Favre did. But as a man, right now? I don't respect him one bit. He's handled this situation poorly and he's managed to turn what was great into shit. |
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You have to factor in that the same extremely rare quality that drove him to greatness on the field is now showing the really ugly side of itself.
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vivalasux |
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CatNamedRudy wrote: agreed. |
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CatNamedRudy |
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StarRider wrote: Which quality is that? The snap decision making that sometimes end up blowing up in his face? (that's not meant to be a smartass response either).
That's the only quality I can think of that works in both situations.
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StarRider |
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I'm talking the need to compete. The need to start every-single-football game no matter the personal cost.
All athletes have it to some degree. With Brett, it's off the charts. His consecutive starts record is no joke and an incredibly underrated record in all of sports. What is going on now is probably beyond his control. I'm serious. |
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CatNamedRudy |
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StarRider wrote: If that is true, then his handlers need to rein him in! It's not even so much him saying that he wants to come back. I can understand that to a
degree. It's training camp time and he's feeling the effects of his decision. He a competition junkie and he needs his fix. Ok. Not a problem.
It's more the way this whole thing has been handled. He's being a big baby and contradicting all kinds of stuff he said at the time he retired.
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StarRider |
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He's certainly not the first. I hear what you are saying though.
His programming is telling him it's time to report, and for the first time in his life he can't do that on his terms or to his liking. He's obviously having a major problem with that. |
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