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BobbyBrown06		#4541	[-]
Posts: 8819 (07/14/08 2:42 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Spoiler debunked. Last Edited By: BobbyBrown06 07/14/08 2:53 PM. Edited 1 times.
Je Fa		#4542	[-]
Posts: 96 (07/14/08 7:41 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	As some of you may have noticed, I took a short vacation from this thread when Hillary conceded. I hope you made the most of my absence, because I'm back...and endorsing: drumroll My former congresswoman! Suck it, AIPAC!
memyselfandi		#4543	[-]
Posts: 14328 (07/14/08 7:58 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	rugslug wrote: Fezzzy wrote: Also wasn't Barack born in Hawii? That's hardly America. there was a controversy stirring for a while that Obama wouldn't release his birth certificate - that must mean something. DailyKos even photochopped a fake birth certificate to try and quell the controversy. These non-issues distract us from the real issues such as the policies of the candidates. By "controversy" you mean false rumor propogated by crazy right-wingers such as yourself who are not in touch with reality. Obama didn't refuse to release his birth certificate and DailyKos didn't chop anything when they posted a copy of Obama's real birth certificate showing he was born in Hawaii a couple years after it got statehood. But I'm glad you realize this was a non-issue.
lilnubber		#4544	[-]
Posts: 9440 (07/14/08 8:48 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	These non-issues distract us from the real issues such as the policies of the candidates. This was hilarious, coming from Ruggy.
Gregoire		#4545	[-]
Posts: 28048 (07/14/08 9:11 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Part of me feels the New Yorker cover is some kind of genius. It embodies all the shadow talk and untruths about Obama that the right refuses to reject without out right denying any of it. It is an embodiment of a dozen lies that are propagated every day by some of the fringe Obama haters. However itt probably should have been in an art gallery, not a magazine cover.
Angela in WI		#4546	[-]
Posts: 24157 (07/14/08 9:17 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Compared with some of the stuff Abe Lincoln saw published about him, this is like a complimentary little ditty surrounded by hearts and flowers.
memyselfandi		#4547	[-]
Posts: 14332 (07/14/08 9:22 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	That is true. The Abe Lincoln museum in Springfield has some pretty awesome exhibits showing a lot of the negative press Lincoln got while in office and it was kind of astounding to see it. Everyone in OT should check out that museum regardless of their political affiliation [/Illinois tourism pimping]
Gregoire		#4548	[-]
Posts: 28050 (07/14/08 9:29 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The difference is, the Abe Lincoln stuff was legitimately negative and nasty, from people who did not want him elected. The story of how he even got elected at all is so intreguing. The New Yorker cover is a bit more complex. Its clearly negative but they're 'trying to prove a point' which we can argue that maybe they did too well.
Ann Margret Thatcher		#4549	[-]
Posts: 5996 (07/14/08 9:33 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Right. The stuff published about Lincoln was in earnest. What the issue here amounts to is should ignorant people be shielded from satire? At least that seems to be so since some newsstands are taking the magazine off the shelves. It's getting a little close to "thought police" to me.
B DeBrun		#4550	[-]
Posts: 17130 (07/14/08 9:50 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Political satire has been going on since day 1. The ditty they sang about Grover Cleveland (a NY Gov, yegads) in 1888 is hilarious "Ma Ma where's my Pa? In the White House. Ha Ha!"
Strange Flute		#4551	[-]
Posts: 2725 (07/14/08 10:35 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yeah that's hilarious ....... for a 2000 year old song. The New Yorker cover failed because it wasn't funny, it was just dumb stereotyping failed humor, like Borat but worse.
ZombieLinda		#4552	[-]
Posts: 4377 (07/14/08 10:41 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	A VOTE FOR CYNTHIA IS A VOTE FOR ENTERTAINMENT GOLD <3333333333333333333
Kudo Withholder		#4553	[-]
Posts: 231 (07/14/08 11:00 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Gregoire wrote: Part of me feels the New Yorker cover is some kind of genius. It embodies all the shadow talk and untruths about Obama that the right refuses to reject without out right denying any of it. It is an embodiment of a dozen lies that are propagated every day by some of the fringe Obama haters. However itt probably should have been in an art gallery, not a magazine cover. Its real genius is that it shamelessly distorts how most conservatives (deftly broad-brushed as "the right" in your post) perceive Obama; then, having set up that straw man, it simultaneously amplifies that distortion by insisting such "fringe shadow talk and untruths" merit such an attention-whoring cover for a national magazine. If McCain's condemnation of the cover and its underlying insinuations still rates as a "refusal to reject without outright denying" any of them, I would be curious to hear how far "the right" needs to go to mollify your concerns. The cover would actually have been a pretty sly bit of satire/propaganda if the American masses possessed even the slightest appreciation for or understanding of irony. Obviously that was a brutal miscalculation on the part of the New Yorker.
BobbyBrown06		#4554	[-]
Posts: 8823 (07/15/08 12:40 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The cover would actually have been a pretty sly bit of satire/propaganda if the American masses possessed even the slightest appreciation for or understanding of irony. Obviously that was a brutal miscalculation on the part of the New Yorker. So those on the right are also embarrassed by the majority of America? See ruggy, it goes both ways!
rugslug		#4555	[-]
Posts: 6769 (07/15/08 7:00 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Gregoire wrote: Part of me feels the New Yorker cover is some kind of genius. It embodies all the shadow talk and untruths about Obama that the right refuses to reject without out right denying any of it. It is an embodiment of a dozen lies that are propagated every day by some of the fringe Obama haters. However itt probably should have been in an art gallery, not a magazine cover. well the New Yorker reached its target audience. Those dumb enough to try and blame the right for this straw man argument. Take a second and realize that all the negative portrayals of Obama as a muslim (remember the picture in tribal garb) and friend of terrorists came from the Dem primaries. McCain scolded an emcee who used Obama's middle name at a rally. Obama's followers now use that name as a campaign ploy. McCain has attacked Obama on issues only. The right has no obligation to reject an argument started by the left.
PassionatePiscesMan		#4556	[-]
Posts: 5349 (07/15/08 8:06 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If Obama can't take the heat from that cover, he should as Harry Truman once said, get out of the kitchen.
StatelyWayneManor		#4557	[-]
Posts: 7230 (07/15/08 8:15 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I know this... Obama won't be fist bumping anytime soon.
SurvivorLDog93		#4558	[-]
Posts: 20490 (07/15/08 8:23 AM) Admin/Play-By-Play Guru More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Did Cynthia McKinney get herself kicked out of Congo or summat? For slapping a security guard in Congo, if she were lucky she'd have been caned on the soles of her feet and left to crawl home in disgrace.
rugslug		#4559	[-]
Posts: 6770 (07/15/08 9:22 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Obama the chickenhawk! from his own NY Times oped: As president, I would pursue a new strategy, and begin by providing at least two additional combat brigades to support our effort in Afghanistan. We need more troops, more helicopters, better intelligence-gathering and more nonmilitary assistance to accomplish the mission there. will he be keeping our troops in Afghanistan for 100 years? Is he going to send America's little children off to a foreign country to die (something he was unwilling to do)? Would he send his daughters to fight in Afghanistan? I'm waiting for the left to decry this chickenhawk Obama but I won't hold my breath.
Je Fa		#4560	[-]
Posts: 99 (07/15/08 9:24 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't even like him, but there's no comparison to the Iraq war. Afghans (or people they hosted) attacked us, and Obama's daughters aren't old enough to serve.

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JUNEAU - A comedy about running for VP and the bumps along the way.