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Um, he's correct. What's insane about that? Do you think the money you put into SS is in some kind of savings account waiting for you?
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merkyl |
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Stoopid Yuku.
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B DeBrun |
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If dailykos says so, it must be so...
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The Annoying Hater |
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B DeBrun wrote:
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Strange Flute |
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I think the point merkyl missed was that McCain was stating how SS has always operated and then calling that a disgrace. McCain doesn't know how SS works,
yet he's a US Senator.
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Gregoire |
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Obama's subtle way of saying that Europeans are better than Americans. In many ways, they are. Where is Laura Bush's sensual new album to the manhood of George Bush? Who's she giving her dried up old chrysanthemum to? Carla Bruni's new album and the love song for SarkoHere's your chance to listen to the new musical oeuvre from Carla Bruni. In a marketing build-up worthy of Madonna or a Stones release, Mrs Sarkozy's record company has put Comme si de rien n'était (As if nothing happened) on the internet for free listening. This must be the first time that the presidency of a leading nation has promoted a pop album. The Elysée Palace has been working closely with Naive records to maximise the launch of breathy love songs by the first lady. The repercussions have even gone as far as Japan, which was miffed by Bruni's decision not to join the other spouses at this week's G8 summit. She decided to stay in Paris to advance the release date. Today, she was on France-Inter radio doing the first of a series of promotional interviews which culminate with a long live session on TF1 television news -- the most watched show -- on Friday evening. We've touched on the songs here already. They include Ma Came (My junk), the now famous drug song which caused an official complaint from the Bogota government last month. Bruni sings of an amorous high with the effects of Colombian cocaine. Most of the songs were written before her romance with Sarkozy last winter but one song, Ta Tienne (Yours) is a declaration of passion for the president, whom she calls her "orgy" and her "prince charming". Here are some of it's lyrics: I put an end
I give you my body, my soul and my chrysanthemum
You are my lord, you're my darling
Watch out because I am Italian
Phew! (French lyrics below). Bruni will no doubt score a big hit with this record. It has been given the title "Simply" for its international release at the weekend. Her company originally thought of putting a defensive label on the album in France, saying "You can like Carla Bruni without liking her husband". They didn't need to worry. The media, with one or two exceptions, are heaping praise on the musical quality of an album which is much more ambitious than the minimalist, intimate style of her first two. Le Nouvel Observateur magazine broke with the admiring consensus and called the record uninspired, boring and trite. The disc, a mix of her folk style and more orchestrated pop, is helped by some high class arrangements and excellent musicians. The nostalgic tone of the songs is nicely conveyed by a retro sound, a mixture of Françoise Hardy and American country. In her France-Inter interview, Bruni listed as her influences Dolly Parton, the Beatles, Stones and Ella Fitzgerald, among others. But there is no escaping Bruni's limited vocal talent. Her husky whisper is a running gag for Nicolas Canteloup, the comic impersontator, who plays her as inaudible. Judge for yourself. Bruni, who casts herself as a wild but melancholy child in the songs, says that she will give away her share of the royalties to charity. For the moment France has taken to the new Madame Sarkozy. Her presence is seen as a calming influence and she has played the role extremely well, dressing demurely and staying silent until last month. It's pretty likely that we will now see a reaction against Carla-mania just as we have had a backlash over the past few days against the excess emotion over Ingrid Betancourt
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GrenadeJumper85 |
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Obama the elitist finds Americans "embarassing": Well, it kinda is the truth. We want everyone to talk English when they come here, but when we go to their countries, we can't speak a lick of any of their languages. |
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BobbyBrown06 |
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GrenadeJumper85 wrote: It's the American arrogance thing most repubs are full of. |
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B DeBrun |
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BobbyBrown06 wrote: Democrats too. It's not party blind. |
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PoChop |
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Don't most high schools offer like 2 to 4 different foreign languages anymore. Or is it that kids just aren't going to school? Or maybe they're not
qualified to take a foreign language course if they're still reading at a 4th grade level in high school?
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BobbyBrown06 |
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B DeBrun wrote: Probably, it's just repubs seem almost proud of it. |
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thecolbster |
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I couldn't watch more than five minutes of O'Reilly's program. Is that sound bite the only thing Jesse Jackson said?
If so, I think it helps Obama. |
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GrenadeJumper85 |
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Don't most high schools offer like 2 to 4 different foreign languages anymore. Or is it that kids just aren't going to school? Or maybe they're not qualified to take a foreign language course if they're still reading at a 4th grade level in high school? The key word in your sentence is "offer." At my high school, you did not have to take foreign language if you didn't want too, and most regular students aren't about to just sign up and take one if they don't have too. At least I wasn't one of them, I have four years of french and two years of spanish. ETS: WTF is wrong with the last page of this thread?!??! |
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B DeBrun wrote: Does anyone think that maybe, just maybe, this has something to do with the fact that there are so damned many countries in Europe that all speak different languages? Hell, Switzerland is smaller than West Virginia and they have three official languages (Italian, German and French) there. Continental Europeans need to speak multiple languages for the simple reason that they can drive an hour and be in an entirely different country that speaks an entirely different language. People who live in Great Britain and Ireland don't have to worry about that as much, and I'm pretty sure you'd find their foreign language skills are much more on a par with the average American's. But I'm sure something as obvious as that is completely lost on Obama. btw: Can any of our Canookian friends tell us how well bilingualism works there, outside Quebec? |
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BobbyBrown06 |
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bob2559 wrote: How many European countries outside of the UK's official language is English? |
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Does anyone think that maybe, just maybe, this has something to do with the fact that there are so damned many countries in Europe that all speak different languages? Why is that an excuse? Why is what Obama said even limited to Europe necessarily? Why is it so un-American to learn at least one other language and make it a priority. We should be smarter than the rest of the world, right? Its pretty much mandatory in most college curriculums. I was very lucky that I grew up in a high school that even offered the basic amount of language (French, Spanish and German). Of course, I was the dumbass that took LATIN because I thought it would help me with my writing. Which it did, but now I can't speak French, Spanish or German. I think it should be mandatory that high school students take either Spanish or French (the 'gateway drug' of languages, most mainstream of the romance languages, plus you can speak to Canooks), but of course that would seem traitorous to certain people. The problem is, our education system in general is so fucked that its difficult to impose that when many kids aren't even basically literate out of high school. However, languages are easier to learn the younger you are. I personally think there's too much of a focus on complex mathematics in high schools and not enough on basic speaking and writing skills. DeBrun, I definitely agree with you that dumbass tourists are of all political stripes, shapes and sizes. Frankly I admit to be one of them, when I've fumbled around Germany knowing only the words for 'water', 'bathroom' and 'beer'. But only arch-conservatives consider that a badge of pride as an actual philosophy.
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I personally think there's too much of a focus on complex mathematics in high schools and not enough on basic speaking and writing skills. I 100% agree with this statement. There is WAAAY too much focus on complex math that really has no application to the real world, I remember being in Pre-Cal my senior year thinking "When the fuck am I ever going to use this shit after it's all said and done?" |
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BobbyBrown06 wrote: Well there's Ireland, Canada and Australia to name a few. |
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thecolbster |
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bob2559 wrote: God you're a tard (no offense Mikey). So large borders are a good reason not to broaden your horizons?
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Gregoire |
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Schools are only now adjusting to the computer age. Computer culture is corroding verbal and written skills but math skills aren't necessarily devolving at
the same rate. Teenagers still have to use calculators, add up allowances and begin to balance bank accounts at earlier ages. Teen experiences with numbers are
dissolving, but at a lesser rate in the modern age than language, where email, texting and basic slang is destroying basic communication.
But no, in twelfth grade, you have to suffer through trigonometry and calculus, while it is assumed you know English well enough to read Moby Dick? Bitch please. |
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