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GregBuisIsADick wrote:

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If I hit someone in a street fight barefisted with a right cross, the way I would in a boxing ring with protection, I'd be up on a murder charge.

False. Boxing gloves are PURELY for hand protection - they offer no protection to the person being hit at all. In fact, since they do protect the puncher's hands, they are probably even more dangerous to the hittee since the hitter wouldn't even be subconsciously holding back to protect his bare hands.

oh lord, this is like every fucking noob's first mistaken impression.

Yes gloves were introduced to protect real bareknuckle fighters hands, but when you begin to box, you don't get to actual fight for quite a while. Balance, defensive posture and protective counter measures are taught. Why?

Because NO fucking civilian is going to know how to TAKE a punch from someone skilled, without serious training. I assure you if any middleweight to heavyweight guy with serious amateur creds hits you full in the head, snapping your vertebrae is very possible. I was just a very average club fighter. Go against a medium level journeyman or top rate fighter, you will go down faster than Eddie Murphy in a He-She convention. Unlike Eddie, you are going to need medical attention.

I assure you, you do get serious protection from gloves and handwraps. All the great trainers from Eddie Futch, Emanuel Steward, and Kenny Weldon preach it as canon. If you think bare knuckles don't cause more bruising, breaking of bones and mangling of flesh you are deluded.

From wiki....

History

Boxing gloves in this day and age are defined in weights. Padded gloves cannot be swung as fast as less weighted boxing gloves. Padded boxing gloves protect the opponent and contender. The hand consists of 27 bones. The human skullconsists of 22 bones. Padded gloves traveling at slower speeds reduce the risk of fracture on impact, providing more safety for the boxers in such a competitive sport.

ilikelissie wrote:

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Whoa....not cheap.



I'll probably have to hide the cost from the wife by buying a new bag at the same time.

Get a Ringside Catalog... I leaf through them more than I did porn mags as a teen.

Ringside has some good mounts...

	Heavy Duty Heavy Bag Wall Mount Hanger Style: HDHBH 3 $79.99 Quantity
Overview:
Extra long 4' length allows boxers 360° access to bag. Super strong mount holds even the heaviest bags. Recommended for bags over 90lbs.

OR

Steel I-Beam Heavy Bag Hanger HBH 1 $9.99	Heavy Duty Heavy Bag Hanger HDHBH 1 $14.99	Wooden Beam Hanger HBH 2 $9.99	Heavy Duty Heavy Bag Wall Mount Hanger HDHBH 3 $79.99
Wooden Beam T-Swivel Hanger HBH 4 $14.99	Swing Out/In Double End Bag Hanger HDHBH 5 $59.99 $54.99	Heavy Bag/Double End Bag Floor Anchor HBH 6 $11.99	Swing-in/out Heavy Bag Hanger HBH 7 $199.99
Top Contender Heavybag Hanger HBH 10 $49.99 $34.99	Heavy Duty Heavy Bag Spring HDHBS $12.99	Heavy Bag Spring HBS $5.99	Heavy Duty Heavy Bag Chain and Swivel HDCHSW $9.99

Therein lies your problem.... discussing shit remotely related to money with her.

Charming Nemesis wrote:

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[brianreganvoice]But I just wanted to punch a bag...[/brianreganvoice]

So I should go with a 100lb bag then? I don't want it in the garage because it gets too cold in there in the winter and too hot in the summer. My basement is developed, so a floor stand is the only way. Didn't even think about taping up the hands.

Some guy has a used bag and floor stand that he wants to sell for under a hundred bucks, so I may check that out. May get a speed bag as well.

By floor stand do you mean a metal rack like this one?

Heavy Bag Stand Heavy Bag Stand with Adjustable Platform

It is the most popular model I have seen here in Canookia. Those three posts are for weight plates. It'll move all around unless you put at least 250lbs to weigh it down. There's also called something called "rocks", they are circular bags you fill with sand - 40 to 60lbs I think. They don't rattle like iron or vinyl weight plates will.

There is another lighter version, I think the lighter weight one recommends no more than a 100lb bag. Check if your friend has a receipt or model number to make sure it is made for more than a 70lb bag.

The difference between 70lbs and 100lbs is huge when hitting a bag that is swinging back at you. If you are over 180lbs I'd definitely go bigger (100lbs).